Avernum 4?
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His Mighty Tentacle
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written Monday, September 5 2005 06:22
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Well folks, if it does use the Geneforge engine, just think of all the abuse we shall be able to dish out if we build our party mages like an Agent. So many angles of abuse possible here. -------------------- The face leaping spiders of today are the brain sucking Vlish of tomorrow. Posts: 1104 | Registered: Tuesday, February 12 2002 08:00 |
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Law Bringer
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written Monday, September 5 2005 06:52
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quote:You do know you can just open the bitmap and change the graphic, yes? (I remember you use a PC, correct me if I'm wrong). -------------------- The Encyclopaedia Ermariana <-- Now a Wiki! "Polaris leers down from the black vault, winking hideously like an insane watching eye which strives to convey some strange message, yet recalls nothing save that it once had a message to convey." --- HP Lovecraft. "I single Aran out due to his nasty temperament, and his superior intellect." --- SupaNik Posts: 8752 | Registered: Wednesday, May 14 2003 07:00 |
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Triad Mage
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written Monday, September 5 2005 09:12
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They're better than the Avernum and Exile versions of eyebeasts and gazers. -------------------- "At times discretion should be thrown aside, and with the foolish we should play the fool." - Menander ==== Drakefyre's Demesne - Happy Happy Joy Joy desperance.net - We're Everywhere ==== You can take my Mac when you pry my cold, dead fingers off the mouse! Posts: 9436 | Registered: Wednesday, September 19 2001 07:00 |
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Shock Trooper
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written Monday, September 5 2005 09:38
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Drakefyre, all you have to do is through in the occasional qualifier: "I think" or "I believe." Posts: 356 | Registered: Tuesday, April 6 2004 07:00 |
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Shaper
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written Monday, September 5 2005 11:27
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Personally, I like the Exile Gazers. Drakey, will there be slimes in A4? If so, are they as nice looking as the Exile slimes, as dumb looking as the Avernum slimes, or somewhere in between? -------------------- The Lyceum - The Headquarters of the Blades designing community The Louvre - The Blades of Avernum graphics database Alexandria - The Blades of Exile Scenario database BoE Webring - Self explanatory Polaris - Free porn here Odd Todd - Fun for the unemployed (and everyone else too) Famous Last Words - A local pop-punk band They Might Be Giants - Four websites for one of the greatest bands in existance -------------------- 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 Posts: 2957 | Registered: Thursday, October 4 2001 07:00 |
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Triad Mage
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written Monday, September 5 2005 11:39
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Right now they have rat graphics :P -------------------- "At times discretion should be thrown aside, and with the foolish we should play the fool." - Menander ==== Drakefyre's Demesne - Happy Happy Joy Joy desperance.net - We're Everywhere ==== You can take my Mac when you pry my cold, dead fingers off the mouse! Posts: 9436 | Registered: Wednesday, September 19 2001 07:00 |
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Shock Trooper
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written Monday, September 5 2005 14:15
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quote:This is interesting. Maybe you could be able to click a point on the map/screen, and you move there... in a turn-based fashion. (instead of Exiles 1-click=1-hex movement, which, sans keyboard movement, could be painful oncemore) Saves the aforementioned *clickclickclickclickclickclickclick* hate which could ensue oncemore. -------------------- A Sucaran Child is standing here. You say, "hello" The small child looks at Preserver Aldous wide-eyed and awed. Posts: 269 | Registered: Friday, July 19 2002 07:00 |
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Triad Mage
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written Monday, September 5 2005 14:40
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That's what I've been saying for the last two pages. -------------------- "At times discretion should be thrown aside, and with the foolish we should play the fool." - Menander ==== Drakefyre's Demesne - Happy Happy Joy Joy desperance.net - We're Everywhere ==== You can take my Mac when you pry my cold, dead fingers off the mouse! Posts: 9436 | Registered: Wednesday, September 19 2001 07:00 |
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Shaper
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written Tuesday, September 6 2005 05:52
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quote:Nah, I'm a PC user alright, but the Geneforge graphics aren't backwards compatible with those from Avernum are they? I mean, they have all the extra fancy things. I'll have to petition Jeff. Or just lump it. Oh, and the movement sounds great. If I've got it right. I prefer mouse anyway, but not having to continuosly click sounds like a God-send. -------------------- "I am a living sign..." Thus endeth this post. Posts: 2864 | Registered: Monday, September 8 2003 07:00 |
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Infiltrator
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written Tuesday, September 6 2005 06:51
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quote:I use the mouse the most. And you don't have to click that many times, you can click and hold, to advance continuously. But since the mouse control hasn't that great precision (sometimes, a single click causes my party to advance two spaces instead of one), I see my self using the keyboard when I just want to move a little (like when opening doors, check all shelves in the a library, etc). This is true for Avernum 1, which is the game I'm playing now. I think in BoA I didn't have that problem. -------------------- Visit the Blades of Avernum Center and the Beta Testing Center -------------- "Beware lest anyone cheat you through philosophy and empty deceit, according to the tradition of men, according to the basic principles of the world, and not according to Christ." Colossians 2:6-9 Posts: 483 | Registered: Tuesday, June 29 2004 07:00 |
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Law Bringer
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written Tuesday, September 6 2005 12:32
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quote:It's not true for any of the Exile games, which the "clickclickclick" was about. -------------------- The Encyclopaedia Ermariana <-- Now a Wiki! "Polaris leers down from the black vault, winking hideously like an insane watching eye which strives to convey some strange message, yet recalls nothing save that it once had a message to convey." --- HP Lovecraft. "I single Aran out due to his nasty temperament, and his superior intellect." --- SupaNik Posts: 8752 | Registered: Wednesday, May 14 2003 07:00 |
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Shock Trooper
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written Tuesday, September 6 2005 17:18
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the idea of having a gridded turn-based movement system with no keyboard movement is horrifiying. sorry Jeff, no keyboard, no purchase. -------------------- Ignorwhat? Posts: 301 | Registered: Thursday, October 2 2003 07:00 |
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Shock Trooper
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written Tuesday, September 6 2005 17:48
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More than likely, A4 will probably still play like any other Avernum game, but with a new storyline, some new graphics, new spells and probably with the same gameplay that we've been accustomed to. A good plus would be if actual in-game music was added in, but that's asking too much already. -------------------- "Truly, if there is evil in this world, it lies in the heart of mankind." -Edward D. Morrison Posts: 220 | Registered: Monday, July 11 2005 07:00 |
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Shock Trooper
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written Tuesday, September 6 2005 19:58
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There is a good chance I won't buy if there is no keyboard movement. O.K, no there isn't. But I will be miffed. -------------------- "Like most of life's problems, this one can be solved with bending" Posts: 287 | Registered: Tuesday, August 19 2003 07:00 |
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Shaper
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written Wednesday, September 7 2005 05:04
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quote:Not likely. Jeff needs to limit file size, since the only way for people to get his games is via a download. If he added music, that'd increase file size, and lots of 56k users might be put off. Plus, he'd probably have to pay a composer/musician to play it for him. And Spiderweb is a business, intent on profit-maximisation. -------------------- "I am a living sign..." Thus endeth this post. Posts: 2864 | Registered: Monday, September 8 2003 07:00 |
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Shock Trooper
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written Wednesday, September 7 2005 05:23
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Ah, very true. I nearly forgot that Spidweb has very limited resources, hence the long waiting period for games to come out. Music would be nice though, but now that I think about it, I could just dish in a CD and play my own music while playing A4. -------------------- "Truly, if there is evil in this world, it lies in the heart of mankind." -Edward D. Morrison Posts: 220 | Registered: Monday, July 11 2005 07:00 |
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Warrior
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written Wednesday, September 7 2005 05:54
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I am also curious how Herr Vogel is planning to implement the outdoors. Hopefully, he will retain the Avernum/Exile outdoors style, rather than moving to the blocked-out locations in the Geneforge series. I guess I just like that sense of continuity between areas. This of course is really a minor issue. It won't stop me from playing the game. -------------------- My friend! Do not fear the flames of the demonic legion! Let the flames incinerate your weakness, strip away all neuroses, and transform you into a newly-forged brazen GOD! Then you will show the subhuman supplicants the true meaning of domination and the proper use of POWER! --Daemon Pavidum Posts: 52 | Registered: Friday, June 3 2005 07:00 |
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Off With Their Heads
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written Wednesday, September 7 2005 06:33
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Apparently it's being done like GF. There is no outdoors anymore. -------------------- Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens. Kelandon's Pink and Pretty Page!!: the authorized location for all things by me The Archive of all released BoE scenarios ever Posts: 7968 | Registered: Saturday, February 28 2004 08:00 |
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Apprentice
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written Wednesday, September 7 2005 10:32
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quote:I believe that this is what Jeff intends. I also believe that keyboard movement will be in the game. Best of both worlds, really. (I broke two mouse buttons playing the Exile series back when. Click-click-click's gone, and good riddance.) quote:Avernum 4 is different from both the other Avernums and from Geneforge in its outdoor handling. In my opinion it's far better. Posts: 33 | Registered: Thursday, October 30 2003 08:00 |
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Triad Mage
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written Wednesday, September 7 2005 13:58
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quote:For the first, it's more than what Jeff intends - it's what's already happening. For the second, I agree. -------------------- "At times discretion should be thrown aside, and with the foolish we should play the fool." - Menander ==== Drakefyre's Demesne - Happy Happy Joy Joy desperance.net - We're Everywhere ==== You can take my Mac when you pry my cold, dead fingers off the mouse! Posts: 9436 | Registered: Wednesday, September 19 2001 07:00 |
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Warrior
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written Thursday, September 8 2005 05:37
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quote: quote:Good, good, I am certainly up for any changes. By the tone of your responses, I sense that this is something Jeff would like to keep concealed for right now, so I won't inquire further. Though naturally, I wouldn't mind...... :P [ Thursday, September 08, 2005 05:50: Message edited by: Aranea Hirsuta ] -------------------- My friend! Do not fear the flames of the demonic legion! Let the flames incinerate your weakness, strip away all neuroses, and transform you into a newly-forged brazen GOD! Then you will show the subhuman supplicants the true meaning of domination and the proper use of POWER! --Daemon Pavidum Posts: 52 | Registered: Friday, June 3 2005 07:00 |
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Warrior
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written Thursday, September 8 2005 22:49
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i personally think it would be really cool if Jeff incorporated more variety in the battles on the world map. Example: Like in Avernum 2 when you are in Empire lands and if you fight a blockade then there is actually a blockade instead of the enemies conveniently running out of their fortified position to fight you. I guess that would mean a better AI for monsters, but the AI could do with some improving anyway..... Posts: 62 | Registered: Sunday, August 14 2005 07:00 |
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Master
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written Friday, September 9 2005 03:33
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quote:Maybe its just me, but everytime I got to some blockade, emipre or not, they just stood still and didn't come after me. -------------------- Thralni's almighty Avernum pages: My webpage, containing scenario's and graphics made by me (And maybe someday the homepage of the almighty chicken gods). Click here for more information on Olga's fortune teller kiosk Olga's fortune teller kiosk has been temporarily closed down, but you can contact the prophet with a PM - Was signed by the prophet of the almighty chicken gods, gods of everything that is a chicken. Work has begun on the Nephilian grammar and vocabulary guide! Posts: 3029 | Registered: Saturday, June 18 2005 07:00 |
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Shaper
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written Friday, September 9 2005 04:36
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quote:Surely ye jest? What about outdoor encounters, giver of xp to the lowly? And besides, I just like being able to wander around and map every last tree. GF took the fun out of that. -------------------- "I am a living sign..." Thus endeth this post. Posts: 2864 | Registered: Monday, September 8 2003 07:00 |
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Shaper
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written Friday, September 9 2005 08:45
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quote:Even if you approached it? They should at least ask if you have the proper empire pass. [ Friday, September 09, 2005 08:47: Message edited by: Sunset ] -------------------- Nena Posts: 2032 | Registered: Wednesday, January 26 2005 08:00 |
