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Originally written by Delicious Vlish:

Well it can't be the Vanatai. That would just be rehashing AIII. Which would be folly. People would be howling for poor Jeff's head.

So, that pretty much leaves the Slith. Remember, they too, have powerful mages and are adept at magical ability.

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Originally written by Red_Sage:

That even they, with their massive teams and even more grandoise budgets cannot do better - are to afraid to - it seems unfair to place so much harsh judgement on one man who does and tries.

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Perhaps you prefer the commercial method of recycling decades old stories and gameplay while simply giving them new facelifts and graphics, I cannot say I do. I would have expected this community to have not based all their judgement on mere graphics...

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Then I suppose that you must dislike most all games, which you can be sure, more often than not liscenced some commonly used and time tested engine (i.e. unreal, quake etc). Even if the graphics of A4 are indeed recycled which seems a bit of a hasty conclusion considering the early state of development the game is in - creating artwork is one of the most time consuming portions of making any game - at least it is not the gameplay that is being recycled over and over again. Doom 3?

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Even if it will be real time, surely you must respect the competancy of Jeff and his ability to create new and interesting scenarios and gameplay settings with the new enviroment?

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I apologize for the rant, I was simply taken aback by the nature of the majority of the responses. I will note that I currently do not consider this a continuation of the Avernum Trilogy, more some event that takes place in the (near?) future of the avernum universe. The empire, exiles, vahnatai struggle is over.

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I for one expect much from this game but will nonetheless be very hard to disappoint out of respect of ability, I am very much aware of how difficult it is to make a game. The programming is almost trivial compared to designing an interesting world with even fair story (hence the overfocus on graphics int Triple AAA titles). Most dont even try, Jeff does.

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About a possible new race, remember in the Isle of Bigail in the Spider Cave? There were some buildings and temples from some ancient advanced race who it was implied were neither vahnatai nor human or any known race for that matter.. A vanished people, I think

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Originally written by Archmage Alex:

In A1 or A2, in the spider tunnels west of the very start, you find a humanoid skeleton of some one who does not fit the descriptions of any known races. I'll look and see if I can find it. Maybe it was them. Personally, I'm sticking with my GIFTR idea.

EDIT: Found it, it's in A2.

"There is a mummified body suspended from one of the webs in this narrow passage. It has long since been sucked dry. Thinking there might be valuables concealed inside the cocoon, you look closer.

"Sure enough, you see a long, slender object, about a foot long, concealed under a few layers of webbing.

"You cut the webs away from the body and discover it was a humanoid of a race you've never seen before. He or she was very tall and impossibly thin, and its hair was pure white. The body has probably been here for a few months.

"In a pouch at its side, you find, several gold disks and a slender wand. Distracted from your curiosity about its origin by a burst of pure greed, you pocket the loot."

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Originally written by Drakefyre:

Just so you know, Jeff has read this thread and scoffs at you.

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