Avernum 4?
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Shock Trooper
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written Friday, September 9 2005 09:20
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Avernum IV, eh? I'm surprised. I thought that was what B.O.A was for, to continue the story after Avernum III. I think Jeff should of just left it off, that way we can continue what we think will happen in B.O.A. If it does come out, I probably won't be able to play it due to me working so much that I can't get into games anymore, but I will try give it a try. It could be good, but then again, if something was left off good, then we should just leave it that way. Posts: 200 | Registered: Sunday, October 7 2001 07:00 |
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Triad Mage
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written Friday, September 9 2005 14:13
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SupaNik, you should read the whole thread - I already replied to Kelandon's statement and said that it is wrong. -------------------- "At times discretion should be thrown aside, and with the foolish we should play the fool." - Menander ==== Drakefyre's Demesne - Happy Happy Joy Joy desperance.net - We're Everywhere ==== You can take my Mac when you pry my cold, dead fingers off the mouse! Posts: 9436 | Registered: Wednesday, September 19 2001 07:00 |
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Off With Their Heads
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written Friday, September 9 2005 16:15
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It would be nice if you said what it is, not what it's not, though. -------------------- Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens. Kelandon's Pink and Pretty Page!!: the authorized location for all things by me The Archive of all released BoE scenarios ever Posts: 7968 | Registered: Saturday, February 28 2004 08:00 |
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Triad Mage
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written Friday, September 9 2005 16:23
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But that would be against the NDA ... ;) -------------------- "At times discretion should be thrown aside, and with the foolish we should play the fool." - Menander ==== Drakefyre's Demesne - Happy Happy Joy Joy desperance.net - We're Everywhere ==== You can take my Mac when you pry my cold, dead fingers off the mouse! Posts: 9436 | Registered: Wednesday, September 19 2001 07:00 |
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Master
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written Friday, September 9 2005 23:28
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quote:NDA, That reminds of DNA. Sorry. stupid comment. Anyway, my view on Avernum 4 is gradually improving. Although I still don't like the idea of it having the Geneforge graphics, I would like to se it, and the story looks good to me. -------------------- Thralni's almighty Avernum pages: My webpage, containing scenario's and graphics made by me (And maybe someday the homepage of the almighty chicken gods). Click here for more information on Olga's fortune teller kiosk Olga's fortune teller kiosk has been temporarily closed down, but you can contact the prophet with a PM - Was signed by the prophet of the almighty chicken gods, gods of everything that is a chicken. Work has begun on the Nephilian grammar and vocabulary guide! Posts: 3029 | Registered: Saturday, June 18 2005 07:00 |
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Law Bringer
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written Saturday, September 10 2005 00:28
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quote:Perhaps. But what it actually stands for is Non-Disclosure Agreement. -------------------- The Encyclopaedia Ermariana <-- Now a Wiki! "Polaris leers down from the black vault, winking hideously like an insane watching eye which strives to convey some strange message, yet recalls nothing save that it once had a message to convey." --- HP Lovecraft. "I single Aran out due to his nasty temperament, and his superior intellect." --- SupaNik Posts: 8752 | Registered: Wednesday, May 14 2003 07:00 |
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Shaper
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written Sunday, September 11 2005 03:22
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quote:Yeah, I saw my mistake. Thanks for pointing it out, though! So, how far along is the whole project now? -------------------- "I am a living sign..." Thus endeth this post. Posts: 2864 | Registered: Monday, September 8 2003 07:00 |
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Lifecrafter
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written Monday, September 19 2005 11:29
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*slight topic resurrection, slight pain* So I'm just hoping he'll make it into an Exile version as well? And also that it's a big huge Vahnatai-slaying fest. Just because I've hated them after reading Drakey's theory…and because they're evil. Don't ask about the hatred, it's just irrational and random. Sort of. -------------------- "Oh, North Wind, why frighten others? In Nature's family all are brothers. Puff and blow and wheeze and hiss; You can't frighten Shingebiss. Bring your frost and ice and snow; I'm still free to come and go. You can never frighten me, One who never fears is FREE!" -Shingebiss, the mighty duck Posts: 830 | Registered: Tuesday, August 20 2002 07:00 |
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Law Bringer
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written Monday, September 19 2005 12:05
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Exile: Unlikely bordering on unthinkable. Exile is the past. Shiny new engines are the future, for better or for worse. Some love for BoE would be even better. Vahnatai: Please, no. A3 has enough vahnatai carnage fun. —ALorael, who would rather face a plague of goblins. Those goblins can be deadly, you know. Posts: 14579 | Registered: Saturday, December 1 2001 08:00 |
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Triad Mage
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written Monday, September 19 2005 15:02
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This just in: Avernum 4 more fun than BoA. -------------------- "At times discretion should be thrown aside, and with the foolish we should play the fool." - Menander ==== Drakefyre's Demesne - Happy Happy Joy Joy desperance.net - We're Everywhere ==== You can take my Mac when you pry my cold, dead fingers off the mouse! Posts: 9436 | Registered: Wednesday, September 19 2001 07:00 |
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Off With Their Heads
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written Monday, September 19 2005 15:21
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Coming from someone who thinks that the best BoA scenario yet released is Babysitting, that statement is less convincing. -------------------- Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens. Kelandon's Pink and Pretty Page!!: the authorized location for all things by me The Archive of all released BoE scenarios ever Posts: 7968 | Registered: Saturday, February 28 2004 08:00 |
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Master
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written Monday, September 19 2005 17:20
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quote:Probably the new game engine itself is more fun. Or did you mean it's more fun than some of the scenarios yet to be made too? -------------------- -ben4808 For those who love to spam: CSM Forums RIFQ Posts: 3360 | Registered: Friday, June 25 2004 07:00 |
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Shaper
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written Monday, September 19 2005 19:15
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Actually Goblins would be an interesting center for A4. -------------------- I stop rubber at 160km/h, five times a week. CANUCKS RESPEK! My Style The Knight Between Posts. Posts: 2395 | Registered: Friday, November 2 2001 08:00 |
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Lifecrafter
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written Monday, September 19 2005 19:48
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quote:Quite true, except for the statements "Exile is the past" and "A3 has enough vahnatai carnage fun." (Though I only speak from the perspective of E3, and I have yet to beat it, as I only got teh full version a few weeks ago, and all I know about the end is that you kill Vahnatai in your quest to nail Rentar Ihrno.) One mission of killing Vahnatai (or two, or three) is definately not enough to satisfy the bloodlust of the Church of Plah. And your former false statement pegs you as a HERETIC! :P EDIT: Wow, this is a horrible structure for a post, I can do much better! I'll do it tomorrow. EDITx2: Slight clarity editing to preserve the prestige that I never had. [ Monday, September 19, 2005 19:51: Message edited by: Desert Pl@h ] -------------------- "Oh, North Wind, why frighten others? In Nature's family all are brothers. Puff and blow and wheeze and hiss; You can't frighten Shingebiss. Bring your frost and ice and snow; I'm still free to come and go. You can never frighten me, One who never fears is FREE!" -Shingebiss, the mighty duck Posts: 830 | Registered: Tuesday, August 20 2002 07:00 |
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Triad Mage
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written Tuesday, September 20 2005 01:36
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quote:I haven't even played Babysitting. Yes, the engine is much better, and the game is more fun too. -------------------- "At times discretion should be thrown aside, and with the foolish we should play the fool." - Menander ==== Drakefyre's Demesne - Happy Happy Joy Joy desperance.net - We're Everywhere ==== You can take my Mac when you pry my cold, dead fingers off the mouse! Posts: 9436 | Registered: Wednesday, September 19 2001 07:00 |
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Off With Their Heads
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written Tuesday, September 20 2005 06:37
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I swear you said that somewhere. The Lyceum, possibly, because I can't find it here. -------------------- Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens. Kelandon's Pink and Pretty Page!!: the authorized location for all things by me The Archive of all released BoE scenarios ever Posts: 7968 | Registered: Saturday, February 28 2004 08:00 |
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Infiltrator
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written Tuesday, September 20 2005 08:23
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In X2 I'm pretty sure you can get never ending Vahnataian(sp?) spawn, as long as you don't complete the ritual in Avis. I would agree though, the Vahnatai haven't been exploited for every last shred of potential bloody slaughter, but what has been done is enough. The head honcho lassy is(n't) dead, and if she had disciples, they could be dealt with in the time between A3 and A4. (Much like the bigger part of the war between the Empire and the cavelings isn't actually dealt with in X2, but is resolved by the time of X3.) Too bad the surface seems likely to be left out of this game. The bright green of computer grass was lovely compared to the gloomy blue of the cave floor. Edit: Ah shoot, now I feel stupid. This is what comes of trying to discuss something you haven't played in quite a while. Perhaps she is discredited with her clan? [ Tuesday, September 20, 2005 09:13: Message edited by: AxB ] Posts: 564 | Registered: Wednesday, April 14 2004 07:00 |
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Law Bringer
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written Tuesday, September 20 2005 09:11
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Rentar-Ihrno is very much still alive at the end of A3, and I will be very disappointed if she doesn't appear. I'll be even more disappointed if she's the big villain, but she's important enough to Avernum that she deserves a cameo. —Alorael, who meant that Exile is the past in Spiderweb's plans. Don't expect Jeff to backtrack. Ever. Even as far as fixing bugs in Blades. Posts: 14579 | Registered: Saturday, December 1 2001 08:00 |
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Shaper
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written Tuesday, September 20 2005 12:06
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I picture a highly gratifying intro mission for Avernum 4 in the flavor of those "wrap up loose end" intros from a James Bond movie. At the beginning of Avernum 4 you slip in and assassinate Rentar-Ihrno and level Ghikra with quickfire (originally ironically obtained from Rentar). At this point, the Vahnatai are so weary of their own irksome existence that they all go into a new Resting during which an unfortunate cave-quake shatters every last resting crystal, thereafter sparing the once fantasy-focused world of Avernum from any more ridiculous intrusions by sci-fi aliens, factories, and lasers. Is it too much to hope for? -------------------- [Insert Signature Here] Posts: 2009 | Registered: Monday, September 12 2005 07:00 |
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Lifecrafter
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written Tuesday, September 20 2005 12:14
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:eek: I don't hate them THAT much. And why wipe out Ghirka? Killing Rentar as a sidequest isn't such a bad idea, though not something that should be an early mission. Vahnatai, as dead as some of them should be, aren't weaklings. -------------------- "Oh, North Wind, why frighten others? In Nature's family all are brothers. Puff and blow and wheeze and hiss; You can't frighten Shingebiss. Bring your frost and ice and snow; I'm still free to come and go. You can never frighten me, One who never fears is FREE!" -Shingebiss, the mighty duck Posts: 830 | Registered: Tuesday, August 20 2002 07:00 |
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Shaper
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written Tuesday, September 20 2005 12:24
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It could be set up as a cut-scene intro using high-level PC's as if from the end of Avernum 3. All the better if I didn't actually have to play another moment involving Vahnatai. -------------------- [Insert Signature Here] Posts: 2009 | Registered: Monday, September 12 2005 07:00 |
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Skip to My Lou
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written Tuesday, September 20 2005 13:34
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Fools! The Vahnatai should not be eradicated, they should become PCs! Go kill off some of those blasted ogre mages with their demon-happy magic. -------------------- Take the Personality Test! INTJ 100% 75% 100% 44% Huzzah for the Masterminds! www.Keirsey.com for personality information. The Sloganizer! "Swing your Archmage Alex." Deep down, you wish you were a stick figure. Posts: 1629 | Registered: Wednesday, October 3 2001 07:00 |
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Shock Trooper
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written Tuesday, September 20 2005 13:51
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Demonic magic is the wave of the future! Would having Summon Imps as a low-level mage spell be too much to hope for? I like Imps. They cast spells from a sensible distance, and can handle minor enemies at melee ranges. -------------------- Ignorwhat? Posts: 301 | Registered: Thursday, October 2 2003 07:00 |
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Warrior
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written Tuesday, September 20 2005 14:37
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quote:Sadly, yes, but still, I love the idea. Okay, maybe not, but the Vahnatai are way too overpowered in my eyes - and they make no sense. In Exile/Avernum 2 they claim to be natives of the caves, but In the following installment some retract this claim. Rotten 'Shroom eatin,' robe-wearin,' yoga-mongers... I -can- however, see them embroiled in some devastating civil war- After all, the Vahnatai of Avernum aren't the only "tribe" out there. Let's face it, they really need to be taken down a peg. -------------------- Razordisk Frisbee Golf Posts: 168 | Registered: Saturday, October 26 2002 07:00 |
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Lifecrafter
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written Tuesday, September 20 2005 15:10
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quote:Note: Synergy was the only one who actually suggested eradication. If we accept Drakefyre's theory on Vahnatai creationism, it would make sense that they're stronger magically than humans, etc. I find no reason to not believe Drakey's theory. I'd still like to smash some alien head, though. EDIT: Just the evil ones. [ Tuesday, September 20, 2005 15:11: Message edited by: Desert Pl@h ] -------------------- "Oh, North Wind, why frighten others? In Nature's family all are brothers. Puff and blow and wheeze and hiss; You can't frighten Shingebiss. Bring your frost and ice and snow; I'm still free to come and go. You can never frighten me, One who never fears is FREE!" -Shingebiss, the mighty duck Posts: 830 | Registered: Tuesday, August 20 2002 07:00 |