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Originally written by Student of Trinity:

Just why are we sure it is morally acceptable to eat vegetables? Some are much bigger than we are and can live much longer. If injured they react, albeit slowly.

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Originally written by Student of Trinity:

So do the people that were in Limbo before 1992 get grandfathered in, or are they languishing in the Limbo of Limbos? I mean, it's pretty rough when even Limbo goes condo and evicts a bunch of foeti.

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I am probably most offended by the Catholic Church's stance that purgatory is fact when there is no Biblical proof for it.

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Originally written by Student of Trinity:

The offense of human husbandry, if there is any, would therefore seem to be not against cows, but against the cow genome. If there is any doubt about the moral rights of cows, surely the rights of such an abstract collective entity as the cow genome are quite nebulous. For one thing, the whole human-cow relationship, at the species level, can surely be considered a most cunningly successful symbiosis, as far as the cow genome is concerned. If genomes can have wishes, then the mammoth genome probably wishes it could have been a cow.

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Originally written by PoD person:

I'm Catholic, and everyone I know believes in Purgatory. Ben, you know that people in purgatory do eventually end up in heaven, right? It's not limbo, for goodness' sake.

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Originally written by Student of Trinity:

I recently saw a very strange optical illusion. It was a wheel half black and half white, but with three short black arcs added to the white half. When spun rapidly, the arcs appeared to be colored, even though when still the whole pattern was very clearly pure black and white. The museum's accompanying text promised that that would happen, so it is a known illusion. What's with it, though?

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Originally written by Git:

Even Catholics have abandoned Purgatory. You're now saved or damned with no middle ground.

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Out of curiosity, does anyone know what the rate of birth defects is for very young mothers versus those in the 18-22 age range?

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cows like to live on the same kind of land we like to live on. I posit that there are only cows still in existence because we enjoy their tasty meat. if we did not, there would be two of them in a zoo in New Jersey, and that's about it.
is it especially egomaniacal to say, "you owe your mere existence to our whim, so perhaps you should consider yourself lucky for what time you do get and nevermind if we also have the whim to end your days"?

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people have been developing slower emotionally ever since we invented the twin concepts of of "adulthood at 18" and "mandatory school" in early 20th century.

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back when people were treated like adults, they rose to expectations. and literacy rates (as measured by people taking entrance exams to the US military - not by government institutions with an agenda to make mandatory school seem good) have been declining ever since, as well.

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Originally written by Dolphin:

I wish I could say where I got that from, but I don't know, probably GF1.

In GF1 the Sholai were hiding in a cave where there were turrets, not the cave to the far east. Part of the dialogue was “you are living here with rouges.” They responded, “We don't bother them, and they don't bother us.” Keep in mind this was a Shaper island. The existing creations may or may not have been there before the Sholai arrived. They may have just tamed some of the more docile creations.

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Originally written by Mind:

Genetically modified plants are not sickening or disgusting at all: We consummate them as well.

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