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Do you like changes in Avernum or not in Avernum 4
Randomizer
Law Bringer
Member # 6785
 written Tuesday, October 9 2007 16:09 Profile #2
Actually the changes from A3 to A4 are more than the changes from A3 to A5. A5 has the return to the older elevated terrain, being able to use boats, targeting individual monster from the keyboard, and other features that were lost in the rush to get A4 out there.

I wanted another choice for the last question. Since I've seen A5, I know that the massive changes are mostly to restore lost features. The only major new feature is battle disciplines that greatly improves the game for fighters. No more just melee or missle attack.
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Well, how can I know these answers? in General
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Law Bringer
Member # 6785
 written Monday, October 8 2007 16:46 Profile #1
These were answered a few months back, but I think before the last General purge. Use search over in the archives for "fluffy turtles" to get most of them.
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Avernum 4 Observations in Avernum 4
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Law Bringer
Member # 6785
 written Monday, October 8 2007 09:22 Profile #42
Nephil elite warrior divine touch for A4 and A5 is better as a fighter since you get increased blademaster and pick up sharpshooter. Fast on feet isn't as helpful since those extra AP can't be relied on to help when needed. Increased health through tough constitution is useful later in the game.
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Goodbye! Goodbye for... a while! in General
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Law Bringer
Member # 6785
 written Sunday, October 7 2007 19:44 Profile #12
Aran's going to be gone? Is he still around here?

Just kidding. Enjoy Octoberfest. Will be busy deleting topics while you're away.
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Derek's key in Nethergate
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Law Bringer
Member # 6785
 written Sunday, October 7 2007 19:41 Profile #2
You can delete a topic as the creator if you do it before anyone replies.

The body is northeast of the Faerie Bazaar near the Jagged Aerie. Check out the skeletal bodies outdoors until you find the right one. The quest from Velanna implies that the body is further south than it actually is.
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Avernum 4 Observations in Avernum 4
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Law Bringer
Member # 6785
 written Sunday, October 7 2007 11:23 Profile #40
Wait until you play A5 and the difference becomes glaringly obvious about halfway through the game. Seriously, A3 was the last game where playing a human was better on all difficulty levels and that's only if you weren't out to get extra encounters with Empire troops. A4 was better to be a nephil on torment difficulty.
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What is the exact effect of Special Skills? in Blades of Avernum
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Law Bringer
Member # 6785
 written Sunday, October 7 2007 04:27 Profile #1
Traits and skills summation reposted is the best that I've seen on the subject. There might be an earlier one.

There is also one for quick strike and magical efficiency here.

Some of the effects are only a chance of improvement and don't happen every time.
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Avernum 4 Observations in Avernum 4
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Law Bringer
Member # 6785
 written Saturday, October 6 2007 22:30 Profile #38
I was pushing for humans getting bonus skill points which keeps the generalist nature of humans, but giving them less than the skill points needed to raise nonhuman skills.

The option of an extra trait might be too much depending upon what was chosen. Even with the extra experience penalty, a divine touch, elite warrior, with one other major trait could be come extremely powerful without using skill points.
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Episode 4: Spiderweb Reloaded. Something like that anyway. in General
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Law Bringer
Member # 6785
 written Saturday, October 6 2007 19:49 Profile #182
quote:
Originally written by Ephesos:

Ow.
Abandoned by crickets. You have hit a low. Not even clover boots helped you out this time.
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Does life imitate art? in General
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Law Bringer
Member # 6785
 written Saturday, October 6 2007 15:55 Profile #2
The only way to maintain control is through more regulation. Just ask a Republican. Otherwise anyone can do it. Sorry Synergy, I think you should get magic as a member of the controllers.
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So many choices, So little time. in Geneforge 4: Rebellion
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Law Bringer
Member # 6785
 written Saturday, October 6 2007 13:31 Profile #3
GF1 is easy for an agent. If you've gotten through the series as a guardian/warrior then the other choices will be no problem once you get used to a different playing style. Shaper/lifecrafter requires thinking about playing a group instead of an individual.
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Avernum 4 Observations in Avernum 4
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Law Bringer
Member # 6785
 written Saturday, October 6 2007 09:53 Profile #32
quote:
Originally written by Yama Toman?:

You can play with humans -- they're just close to 100% inferior to Nephils. In the end this doesn't make a massive difference outside of Torment, though.
It's even worse in Avernum 5. You really should be given an experience bonus if you run with humans in your party.
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Geneforge 3/4 mentioned in Top 100 Independent Games List in Geneforge Series
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Law Bringer
Member # 6785
 written Saturday, October 6 2007 09:50 Profile #22
That's because they are based on TSR (currently a division of Hasbro) books. Look at almost any cover of The Dragon with a female on it and see how sexist they are.
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Avernum 4 Observations in Avernum 4
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Law Bringer
Member # 6785
 written Friday, October 5 2007 20:43 Profile #28
A4 is the first of the Avernum games where experience decreases significantly when your level is higher than the monster's level. So as you get higher you get fewer level increases. The skill bonuses of nonhumans and especially the nephil more than make up for the lower levels due to XP penalty. You don't really get penalized for having high XP penalty since the associated skills that get added on are more than the skill points you would get for more levels using a lower penalty or even a XP bonus.

You can play with humans, but you don't get all those nice weapon skill bonuses and gymnastics to avoid damage if you play a nephil.
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Episode 4: Spiderweb Reloaded. Something like that anyway. in General
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Law Bringer
Member # 6785
 written Friday, October 5 2007 16:36 Profile #167
That's okay, Jeff created something even more annoying than GIFTSs and GIFTRs. Avernum 5 has a new annoyance. I wonder if the game will be released in time for it to find it's way into this episode.
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HELP WITH NETHERGATE in General
Randomizer
Law Bringer
Member # 6785
 written Friday, October 5 2007 16:26 Profile #2
To raise money, try going back to home base and looting items that are marked NY (not yours) where no one will see you take them. Selling items is still your best bet until you are able to fight the toll fomarians.

I need some more information for your other question. Exactly where are you when you can't leave? Galag-Trav has buttons that need to be pushed to open gates so you may have missed one. I doubt you will starve, but trying to fight with a weakened party is hard.

You might have more luck posting in Nethergate forum since some members there don't like to read General (Hey Tyran is taking a vacation and he hates reading General).

[ Friday, October 05, 2007 16:27: Message edited by: Randomizer ]
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Conferred immunity in Geneforge 4: Rebellion
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Law Bringer
Member # 6785
 written Friday, October 5 2007 06:05 Profile #1
At high enough acid/poison resistance, you can basically shrug off damage since it's low and the regeneration from mass energize will heal it each round. The high endurance of these creations at the end of the game already helps and you pushed it to a safe zone.
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Fireblast, L3 in The Avernum Trilogy
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Law Bringer
Member # 6785
 written Thursday, October 4 2007 19:28 Profile #5
quote:
Originally written by Saltheart:

Where would I find the scripts?
Slarty or Aran might have the text dumps from the older games, but you still will need to to use a text search for the information you want.
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Avernum 4 Observations in Avernum 4
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Law Bringer
Member # 6785
 written Thursday, October 4 2007 13:43 Profile #25
If you are in the regular display ESC, escape key, does send you to the menu of save game, preferences, etc. It doesn't work all the time, but it works enough so I don't have to use a mouse or the correct key.
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Fireblast, L3 in The Avernum Trilogy
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Law Bringer
Member # 6785
 written Wednesday, October 3 2007 16:10 Profile #1
I looked at my old game and I had a total rune reading of 56. I don't know what it was when I got the spell. At least you have an upper limit.
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Avernum 4 Observations in Avernum 4
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Law Bringer
Member # 6785
 written Wednesday, October 3 2007 16:07 Profile #21
ESC, the escape key, tends to work as a way to close most windows. The get command, "g" will usually work within two squares of any party member. It does get boring, but there is a limit to the amount of items you can get to sell for money.
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Avernum 4 Observations in Avernum 4
Randomizer
Law Bringer
Member # 6785
 written Wednesday, October 3 2007 14:02 Profile #19
quote:
Originally written by Ming:

quote:
Originally written by m4mitchell:

I dislike that items are often hidden by walls, especially important things, such as trapdoors. I really don't like the fact that spells no longer have letters attached to them - yes, I can still press 'a' in order to select the first spell, but it's difficult to know which letter to press when it comes to the later spells.
Of the things you wrote, this is the only one I agree with. My guess is that the editor Jeff uses is in 2D (like the editor for BoA) so he cannot see how bad this is when he's making the game.
No, Jeff does it deliberately to have a good laugh at his players. I just found a canister in A5 hidden behind a pillar 3 days ago that you can only find by moving the cursor over the hidden areas (you need the item inside to finish a quest easily). Get used to the idea of scanning the entire map this way whenever there is the slightest possibility of something being hidden by an object or wall.
Posts: 4643 | Registered: Friday, February 10 2006 08:00
Avernum 4 Observations in Avernum 4
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Law Bringer
Member # 6785
 written Wednesday, October 3 2007 08:44 Profile #15
Jeff fixed A5 so you can attack and target monster using the keyboard as well as the mouse.

For spell casting try using "c" to get a table with all the spells you can cast and then pick the letter. I found that I remembered most of the spell letters for mage and priest casting after a few days of playing.
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G4 Level Limit in Geneforge 4: Rebellion
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Law Bringer
Member # 6785
 written Wednesday, October 3 2007 08:40 Profile #7
Synergy in his tale did almost every town and camp. There is a limit where you get no experience for killing most things in the low 40s level characters. You already see it for a creationless character in the Fens of Aziraph.
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