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We know about Geneforge 3...but what's next? in General
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Can one read either of these histories anywhere? I mean, other than the tiny fragment of the Arena at Desp, and the evidently rather less than finished Encyclopedia Ermariana.

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Northern Kingdom 0: Prologue
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Ending a scenario in Blades of Avernum Editor
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Archimage Micael (which is not much of an improvement over "archmagi," by the way -- there's no I in archmage), I know what you're trying say and even I had trouble understanding what you're saying.

Long story short, Overwhelming, the code is right. Choosing dialog choice 0 makes run_dialog return 1, and choosing dialog choice 1 makes run_dialog return 2, and choosing dialog choice 2 makes run_dialog return 3. It's weird, but that's how it works.

EDIT: Posted at the same time as Flamefiend.

[ Saturday, July 10, 2004 17:15: Message edited by: Just Call Me Kel ]

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

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Ending a scenario in Blades of Avernum
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Archimage Micael (which is not much of an improvement over "archmagi," by the way -- there's no I in archmage), I know what you're trying say and even I had trouble understanding what you're saying.

Long story short, Overwhelming, the code is right. Choosing dialog choice 0 makes run_dialog return 1, and choosing dialog choice 1 makes run_dialog return 2, and choosing dialog choice 2 makes run_dialog return 3. It's weird, but that's how it works.

EDIT: Posted at the same time as Flamefiend.

[ Saturday, July 10, 2004 17:15: Message edited by: Just Call Me Kel ]

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

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Religion, Homosexuality, the Usual in General
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Originally written by Your Unborn Child: Alec, the concept of homosexuality did exist rather earlier than you acknowledge. Henry VIII imposed the death sentence for sodomy.
I think he meant the modern concept of homosexuality. People have been having same-sex intercourse for millenia, but the concept that an individual person could attracted exclusively to those of the same sex is a relatively new concept.

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Originally written by Xan Kreigor: The law is no longer in effect and its purpose was to show that man could never follow it.
This is the one that I take issue with, the one that made me start this topic. How exactly did the law cease to be in effect? It seemed to me from that verse I cited in Acts in the very first post of this thread that the laws laid down in Chapter 18 of Leviticus were an integral part of Christianity as practiced by the disciples.

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Originally written by Overwhelming: Not by God. And that's what's being debated here. If you don't believe in God, then this topic has no interest to you.
I don't believe in God, and I STARTED this topic, so I think you're a bit incorrect on this one. Also, with regard to the second post of your quadruple post, it's been mentioned a million times so far. David and Jonathan. I can't vouch for whether or not they were actually homosexual lovers, but that's the reference.

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Northern Kingdom 0: Prologue
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Just wondering... Anyone of you printed the editor doc? in Blades of Avernum Editor
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I didn't for a long time, but I just recently printed the things that I refer to most often. I'm still seeing how this works for me.

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

Kelandon's Pink and Pretty Page!!: the authorized location for all things by me
The Archive of all released BoE scenarios ever
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Just wondering... Anyone of you printed the editor doc? in Blades of Avernum
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I didn't for a long time, but I just recently printed the things that I refer to most often. I'm still seeing how this works for me.

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

Kelandon's Pink and Pretty Page!!: the authorized location for all things by me
The Archive of all released BoE scenarios ever
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BoA Graphics Comp in Planning... in Blades of Avernum
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First, archmagi is DEFINITELY plural. Archmagus is the singular, although archmage is the more common synonym.

Second, you can START at any time. Start now. TM is still deciding on the DEADLINE.

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

Kelandon's Pink and Pretty Page!!: the authorized location for all things by me
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Blades of Avernum Wrap Report in Blades of Avernum
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My thoughts on this are here.

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

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Don't tell me!! in Geneforge Series
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I'm not sure that we can call the Blades games Jeff's. BoA will be the community's best game so far, I think.

Seriously, this scripting engine rocks. And if Jeff is actually telling the truth when he claims that he will support it better than he did BoE -- and it already looks like he is and he will -- then we'll have a really good system here.

Geneforge commies. Jeez.

EDIT: Just realized that I was posting on the Geneforge board. I love Geneforge! It's the best! Well, it's good, anyway.

[ Thursday, July 08, 2004 09:21: Message edited by: Just Call Me Kel ]

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

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The Archive of all released BoE scenarios ever
Posts: 7968 | Registered: Saturday, February 28 2004 08:00
Don't tell me!! in Geneforge
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I'm not sure that we can call the Blades games Jeff's. BoA will be the community's best game so far, I think.

Seriously, this scripting engine rocks. And if Jeff is actually telling the truth when he claims that he will support it better than he did BoE -- and it already looks like he is and he will -- then we'll have a really good system here.

Geneforge commies. Jeez.

EDIT: Just realized that I was posting on the Geneforge board. I love Geneforge! It's the best! Well, it's good, anyway.

[ Thursday, July 08, 2004 09:21: Message edited by: Just Call Me Kel ]

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wheres the in The Avernum Trilogy
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Yes. Especially since when you approach that wall, the game tells you that the wall is there because you're not registered.

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

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geneforge 2 resolution problem in Tech Support
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Err, that's really odd, for the both of you. This sounds like a real Tech Support issue. Have you tried e-mailing Jeff?

To the best of my knowledge, all SW games try to switch to 800 by 600, but I don't really know anything. You can muck with the preferences to tell them not to take up the whole screen and not to switch resolution, which together might solve your problem -- because then you get the games in a window, rather than as a screen.

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

Kelandon's Pink and Pretty Page!!: the authorized location for all things by me
The Archive of all released BoE scenarios ever
Posts: 7968 | Registered: Saturday, February 28 2004 08:00
We know about Geneforge 3...but what's next? in General
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Well, it's good to hear that Jeff will be porting Exile 4: At the Gallows, but really, shouldn't he leave that up to Stareye? IMAGE(tongue02.gif)

Really, though, this is a bit unsettling. An Avernum 4 would have no choice but to give more history and more background and more storyline that would affect Blades scenarios. I thought that the whole point of designing Blades was to bequeath Exile and then Avernum to us, the players who loved this world, so that we can control it. By making an A4, he would be affecting some of our creative control...

And I imagine that we would be affecting his, too. If he makes a full new engine for A4, and if he writes all of GF3 first, then it will probably take him at least a year and a half to release A4, and by then, several scenarios will have been designed, including some big ones. The BoA community will have inserted more history and more background into the Avernum world, and while it was sort of possible for him to ignore what the BoE-ers had done while making the Avernums, because it was kind of a different world, it would be weird to ignore what the BoA-ers will have done while he's making A4.

So unless he's planning to be an avid BoA player, this will come out strangely.

It was good to read that interview, though. I felt that he had a change of heart somewhere along the line and that he's not going to treat BoA quite the same way as he treated BoE, but it's good to hear that he said this openly. Maybe Alcritas will forgive him, now.

Err, well, here's hoping, anyway :rolleyes:

EDIT: Forgot to say that some part of me DROOLS at the concept of another game like A3. That game was FUN. But A4 would have to be even bigger!

[ Thursday, July 08, 2004 09:07: Message edited by: Just Call Me Kel ]

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Northern Kingdom 0: Prologue
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Religion, Homosexuality, the Usual in General
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Um, were244, just so we're clear, there is a guy here who posts under the name the Creator. When we speak of our masterful BoE-er the Creator, we are not speaking of God (unless there's something I and everyone else really should know IMAGE(tongue04.gif) ).

I am intrigued by the Christian ideas about punishment, hellfire, and damnation, though. And free will, for that matter. If God created everything, and if he's all-knowing and whatever, didn't he either create our personalities directly or create the conditions under which our personalities would develop? In which case, wouldn't that toss aside free will entirely?

Meh. Different issue. I do think it would be very interesting for many people who have posted in this topic to meet homosexual people, though (even if you view them with distaste -- I hope to meet convicted felons at some point, because I think the perspective would be broadening). Growing up in San Francisco has given me a rather different perspective on this issue: my first girlfriend was bisexual, and one of the most popular English teachers at my high school was gay. Homosexuality was a topic in our Health class, and we even had a day when experts on the gay issues came in to talk to our class. I am told this is rather unusual, as far as schools go. Anyway, diversifying one's perspective by knowing all sorts of people seems good to me. It might be interesting.

In response to AM's points above: as I said at the start of this topic, it seems to me that anyone who believes that ALL of the Bible was divinely inspired would have to think of homosexuality as a sin. If even the apostles' words carry the authority of God, then the aforementioned lines out of Acts seem to indicate that sexual morality (concerning which that passage in Leviticus is a major source) is a pretty big deal.

Oooh, tough questions from the other side of the issue! I look forward to it, Creator! IMAGE(smile006.gif)

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Northern Kingdom 0: Prologue
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Stuck in cave of no return in Blades of Avernum
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Perhaps mis-spoke a tad. This puzzle was poorly done, inasmuch as it didn't even seem like a puzzle until I opened the game's scripts. I had read the book already, and I recognized the reference, but I didn't have any concept that there was a puzzle at work until I was told so by Eldiran. I should have spoke up more vehemently during beta testing.

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

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Vahnatai - Do you like them? in The Avernum Trilogy
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Because no one else has stepped up to the plate, I feel that I must. To vahnatai_hell_fyre: in general, AIMspeak (substituting "r" for "are," "4" for "for," and the like) is frowned upon around here.

To stay remotely on topic, I liked the vahnatai of A2, but not of A3. Jeff made them too one-dimensional in A3. ("We still hate the Empire, and that is the single motivation behind all our actions.")

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

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Religion, Homosexuality, the Usual in General
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Creator, although I disagree with you about as much as a person can disagree on this issue, I thank you for taking the time to express your opinion clearly.

A few points at no one in particular: homosexual intercourse is evident in nature. I've read about species of monkeys (bonobos, or something like that) for whom sexual interaction is an indication of social ties, and they don't even flinch before engaging in same-sex intercourse. Various other animals do it, too, although I don't remember specific examples. I'm sure a biologist could say more; I lean towards physics, personally.

Gah, to keep this from being a huge, pedantic post, I'll try to keep this brief. As a substitute for an entire paragraph: AAAAAAUUUGH CONVERTING HOMOSEXUALS TO BEING HETEROSEXUALS NO THIS IDEA IS BAD BAD BAD BAD BAD!!!!!!!

Back to regular post: there is a BIG difference between a person being gay and a person having a gay experience. As an extreme example, same-sex rape is most often committed by heterosexuals (and I say that based on statistics from a high school Health class, so don't quote me on that). Same-sex child molestation has nothing to do with being gay, and as far as I know is committed by heterosexuals as well as homosexuals, so the two things shouldn't be thought of in the same light at all.

Something that occurred to me while reading the Creator's post: people seem so deeply outraged by sex and sexuality, and go to such incredible extremes to try to eliminate it from TV and movies, but VIOLENCE -- which seems like a much bigger problem -- gets relatively little attention. If I were king of the world, I'd put more effort into solving problems related to violent crime, drugs, and poverty, rather than what people do in their bedrooms. But then, I was the one who brought this up.

Huh. I just re-read the Creator's post again. I'm not quite sure I follow (probably because I'm coming from a completely different point of view) If you have the patience to bear with stupid questions, could you connect the dots for someone as like me who can't quite do it himself? Namely: how do you know that homosexuality doesn't work well, isn't ideal, isn't how we're supposed to be?

And, err, from an older post, this: "I don't hate homosexuals for being evil perversions or anything like that - generally speaking, I feel sorry for them. I'd hate to live like that." It sounds peculiar to me. In general, from what I've heard, homosexual people are not unhappy being homosexual any more than, say, men are unhappy being men or women are unhappy being women.

There. Enough babble from me.

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Northern Kingdom 0: Prologue
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My first stupid question (of many, no doubt) in Blades of Avernum Editor
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Yes. Many. I don't entirely know why. Jeff wanted to demonstrate using custom objects scripts so that we would have examples to work from, but other than that I don't know.

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

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The Archive of all released BoE scenarios ever
Posts: 7968 | Registered: Saturday, February 28 2004 08:00
My first stupid question (of many, no doubt) in Blades of Avernum
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Yes. Many. I don't entirely know why. Jeff wanted to demonstrate using custom objects scripts so that we would have examples to work from, but other than that I don't know.

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

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The Archive of all released BoE scenarios ever
Posts: 7968 | Registered: Saturday, February 28 2004 08:00
A1-3: Skill Points in The Avernum Trilogy
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Skill potions are an Exile thing. Knowledge Brews (which varied in power -- 5 skill points in A1, 3 in A2 and A3) were the norm in Avernum. I had never seen a skill potion until I played BoE.

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

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The Archive of all released BoE scenarios ever
Posts: 7968 | Registered: Saturday, February 28 2004 08:00
Stuck in cave of no return in Blades of Avernum
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This was a STUPID puzzle, just for the record.

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

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NPC's in Blades of Avernum
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If you mean that she was trained there, well, it wouldn't really make much sense for a student to have an office next to teachers. I assume that either mages live longer than normal people, or this is a different Erika.

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

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NPCS joining party, not working for me. in Blades of Avernum Editor
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Specifically, "A character who joins the party must have its own script. When in combat mode, they will act according to its script. When do_attack is called, the character will look for targets and attack them. It will not, however, move too far from the party when hunting targets."

Hrm. I don't like this. I'm not sure why, but it sounds bad.

You may be able to get away with putting in "basicnpc" instead of leaving the character's script blank. I haven't tried it, but BoA might only object if you leave the char's script as Default.

EDIT: btw, GIFTS, you're using the wrong "your." It should be "you're," as in "you are."

[ Tuesday, July 06, 2004 10:04: Message edited by: Just Call Me Kel ]

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

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NPCS joining party, not working for me. in Blades of Avernum
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Specifically, "A character who joins the party must have its own script. When in combat mode, they will act according to its script. When do_attack is called, the character will look for targets and attack them. It will not, however, move too far from the party when hunting targets."

Hrm. I don't like this. I'm not sure why, but it sounds bad.

You may be able to get away with putting in "basicnpc" instead of leaving the character's script blank. I haven't tried it, but BoA might only object if you leave the char's script as Default.

EDIT: btw, GIFTS, you're using the wrong "your." It should be "you're," as in "you are."

[ Tuesday, July 06, 2004 10:04: Message edited by: Just Call Me Kel ]

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

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Living in Valorim in The Avernum Trilogy
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I can see the scenario now: Grah-Hoth and the newly evil-ified GIFTS attempt to take over Bigail... regardless, it would still be better than War on Bigail....

I could've sworn I'd posted in this topic already, but it must have been an identical one from a few months back. I'd live in Lorelei and go to the University of Valorim (kinda similar to my current life, come to think of it).

Giants beware! Level 60 Kelandon with Mage Spells and Priest Spells at 20 coming through!

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

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