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Dialouge stopping in mid conversation in Blades of Avernum Editor
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In your code, the end call ends the dialog. You'd be far better off using something simpler, like:
code =
if (get_flag(75,0) > 0)
remove_string(1);
else
remove_string(2);
break;


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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

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Dialouge stopping in mid conversation in Blades of Avernum
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In your code, the end call ends the dialog. You'd be far better off using something simpler, like:
code =
if (get_flag(75,0) > 0)
remove_string(1);
else
remove_string(2);
break;


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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

Kelandon's Pink and Pretty Page!!: the authorized location for all things by me
The Archive of all released BoE scenarios ever
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Wherefore art thou scenarios? in Blades of Avernum
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"Wherefore" means "why," dude. And "thou" is singular.

And with only three scenarios released, I think SW's tables can still handle the task.

However, I think this is not a bad idea, because eventually someday it would become more useful than it would be right now.

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

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AGE? HOW OLD ARE WE? in General
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We do have some older women around, though. But yeah, the significant majority consists of teenagers, with almost everyone else being in their 20's, and then a few notable exceptions who are older.

[ Thursday, July 15, 2004 08:30: Message edited by: Just Call Me Kel ]

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Northern Kingdom 0: Prologue
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Beta Call for HLPM v1.1 in Blades of Avernum Editor
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I am looking for beta testers for the HLPM. Why, you may wonder, would I want to do a beta test for a utility that has already been released? First, because v1.1 is rather bigger and more complicated than anything that came before -- I knew that v1.0 worked, becaused there were not many different things that one can do in it, but v1.1 is not nearly as easy to test by one's self. Second, I want to try to get SW to host it finally, and they like things that have been beta tested. Hence, the beta call.

This will not be a normal beta test. I know that if you run through the normal functions of the HLPM, it will work. There are no alternate endings, no crazy things like that, so that's not what I want people to test. I want people to try to BREAK the utility. Go in with crazy party alignments -- a duo with chars in the 2nd and 4th spots, or a trio with one character thirty levels below the other character -- or do things completely out of order, or walk back and forth over specials several times, or try to back out of areas once you've already started a process, or go through different areas several times and do strange things. I think I've made the HLPM rock-solid, and I want to know if anyone can produce a bug.

Post your e-mail address and whether you'd like a .sit or a .zip file if you'd like to test this thing out.

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

Kelandon's Pink and Pretty Page!!: the authorized location for all things by me
The Archive of all released BoE scenarios ever
Posts: 7968 | Registered: Saturday, February 28 2004 08:00
Beta Call for HLPM v1.1 in Blades of Avernum
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I am looking for beta testers for the HLPM. Why, you may wonder, would I want to do a beta test for a utility that has already been released? First, because v1.1 is rather bigger and more complicated than anything that came before -- I knew that v1.0 worked, becaused there were not many different things that one can do in it, but v1.1 is not nearly as easy to test by one's self. Second, I want to try to get SW to host it finally, and they like things that have been beta tested. Hence, the beta call.

This will not be a normal beta test. I know that if you run through the normal functions of the HLPM, it will work. There are no alternate endings, no crazy things like that, so that's not what I want people to test. I want people to try to BREAK the utility. Go in with crazy party alignments -- a duo with chars in the 2nd and 4th spots, or a trio with one character thirty levels below the other character -- or do things completely out of order, or walk back and forth over specials several times, or try to back out of areas once you've already started a process, or go through different areas several times and do strange things. I think I've made the HLPM rock-solid, and I want to know if anyone can produce a bug.

Post your e-mail address and whether you'd like a .sit or a .zip file if you'd like to test this thing out.

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

Kelandon's Pink and Pretty Page!!: the authorized location for all things by me
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Nethergate +/- Avernum (Special Guest: BoA) in Nethergate
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I asked Jeff if we can use other SW graphics in BoA, and he said yes, so go for it.

Nethergate had a promising system. More could have been done with it -- additional spells, additional schools. I'm not sure if I like the thing about gaining individual skill points vs. gaining levels -- but I'm not sure that I don't, either. And it was an interesting idea to have Exile-style dialogue but highlight key words. This helped me a lot.

I'd rather see a Nethergate 2 than an Avernum 4, personally.

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

Kelandon's Pink and Pretty Page!!: the authorized location for all things by me
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Posts: 7968 | Registered: Saturday, February 28 2004 08:00
Undecided in General
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BSC's pretty dead on. A couple of things to add: if you care about plot, you may wish to get A1 or A2 before A3. A2 has probably the best plot of the series, and A1 establishes the overall plot so that you can follow the whole thing better.

The GF's are pretty cool. Try the demos. They're a bit different from the A's and the E's.

BoE has around 250 scenarios, about 50 of which are really good, including a number that are longer than E1 or E2, so that's your best bet if you want to play for ever and ever from one purchase.

And BoA has a LOT of promise, but not much has been done yet.

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.

Kelandon's Pink and Pretty Page!!: the authorized location for all things by me
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Authority of the Bible in General
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I think that wisdom and good ways to live one's life can be found in the Bible. I think they can also be found in the works of Shakespeare or countless others. They're both equally as divinely inspired -- but then, I have a different definition of divinity than most people.

Er, a goodly number of manuscripts have questionable authorship (Beowulf, the Iliad, even Shakespeare's plays to some extent, etc). It's just that in the case of most of them, it doesn't really matter. They're literary, and it's a question of credit. It kind of matters who wrote parts of the Bible, especially if we take them to be historical documents, because it becomes a question of credibility.

And DP: while the Bible may have been preserved pretty decently between 300 and now, the question of what happened to it between its writing and 300 is still open. Textual criticism of the Bible has been generously described as being in a state of "flux."

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.

Kelandon's Pink and Pretty Page!!: the authorized location for all things by me
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If, for one whole day, you could be ANY race in Avernum... in General
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I see I am the only slith in the field so far. Oh well. My comment as to what I would do won't make sense until my scenario comes out, so I'd better get back to making sure that happens.

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.

Kelandon's Pink and Pretty Page!!: the authorized location for all things by me
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Are you making a BoA scenario? in General
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BSC is far, far too good at this whole message board thing. He was a newbie for about three hours. :P

On another note, I will either finish a decent-length scenario before I go back to school in late August, or I will never finish anything at all. I'm going for the former, but the latter is always a possibility.

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.

Kelandon's Pink and Pretty Page!!: the authorized location for all things by me
The Archive of all released BoE scenarios ever
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TESTERS REQUIRED FOR A VERY SIMPLE SCENARIO! in Blades of Avernum
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This scenario had better be amazingly good to make up for this -- for lack of a better word -- wangdanglery.

EDIT: And evidently it's not. Oh well.

[ Wednesday, July 14, 2004 09:30: Message edited by: Just Call Me Kel ]

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

Kelandon's Pink and Pretty Page!!: the authorized location for all things by me
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Hello. in General
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I agree with Imban. Wholeheartedly.

If anyone hasn't clued in yet, what level your party is doesn't matter. There is this handy little utility called the High Level Party Maker that someone made that will take a new party and make it whatever level you want. In the next version (release set for a few days from now), it will take ANY party and raise it to whatever level you want. And there is absolutely no way to tell the difference between these parties and parties that have developed this way naturally (except maybe the number of custom items they have or the number of scenarios they've completed, but there are no calls to check that).

EDIT: Oh, and one more thing: I find it astonishing that Micael can write "Erika the archmage" in his sig but makes his name "Archimage Micael."

[ Wednesday, July 14, 2004 09:23: Message edited by: Just Call Me Kel ]

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.

Kelandon's Pink and Pretty Page!!: the authorized location for all things by me
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Religion, Homosexuality, the Usual in General
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No worries, Cav, he's been doing this for a few pages now.

Overwhelming, I wouldn't complain about the length of your posts except that such a high percentage of them is dead weight. We already know that you think that God forbids homosexuality, so you don't need another general paragraph explaining that in every post.

I tend to agree that Cav's interpretation of Leviticus 18:22 sounds like a bit of a stretch -- despite that it is what the verse literally means -- given that the preceding verses have defined incest in incredible detail and then banned it, and also banned bestiality. Unless... shoot. Is that what was really going on in the earlier verses of Leviticus? The version I have uses a phrase, "uncover the nakedness," which I took to mean something sexual, but then, is that what it really means?

And either way, given Alorael's description of "ritually unclean," this sounds like, well, not that big of a deal. If homosexual people bathe daily, then it shouldn't be too much of a problem....

Overwhelming, I'm a little unclear on how saying that we should interpret Paul carefully is an attempt to discredit him.

Moreover, the verse in Romans is far clearer in English (and I'm assuming in Portuguese) than in Greek, especially in context. Your only argument against Cav's interpretation was that homosexuality is unnatural according to God, and therefore "changing" from one way to an unnatural way applies to everyone who has any same-sex intercourse (note what I said about dead weight). And for all the absoluteness in your statement, you didn't back that up with a reference to somewhere else in the Bible that demonstrates that God genuinely thinks homosexuality is unnatural.

Well, and then you add that the verse is about homosexuality, not paganism, but you don't provide any support.

And huh. This is curious: the major Greek texts of the NT differ noticeably near these verses. The verses immediately prior involve paganism, and the verses immediately following also involve paganism, and although the standard English translations add in "sexual immorality" among the sins listed in v. 29, the phrase is not in the original Greek in some (namely the Critical) versions of the NT. It appears this may have been something of an afterthought. Either way, everything surrounding the verses in Romans deals with pagan practices, which implies to me that the burden of proof is on the person who says that Romans 1:26-7 deals with homosexuality, rather than the other way around.

It seems to me that we're pretty much down to Leviticus 18:22 and Romans 1:26-7 -- everything else does not refer to homosexuality, or does not refer to it clearly enough to make any difference. Given the state of Biblical textual criticism -- and having read a bit more about it, I realize now that it is in far worse a state than I thought before -- I don't know that we can rely on three verses of the Bible for any sort of judgment on anything. But meh. This still bears some thinking about.

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Northern Kingdom 0: Prologue
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Question: Is there a call to get the PC's name? in Blades of Avernum Editor
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You can do this with string manipulation, specifically append_char_name.

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

Kelandon's Pink and Pretty Page!!: the authorized location for all things by me
The Archive of all released BoE scenarios ever
Posts: 7968 | Registered: Saturday, February 28 2004 08:00
Question: Is there a call to get the PC's name? in Blades of Avernum
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You can do this with string manipulation, specifically append_char_name.

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

Kelandon's Pink and Pretty Page!!: the authorized location for all things by me
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A free great text/script editor for BoA! in Blades of Avernum Editor
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quote:
Originally written by Overwhelming:
Let me know what you think.


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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

Kelandon's Pink and Pretty Page!!: the authorized location for all things by me
The Archive of all released BoE scenarios ever
Posts: 7968 | Registered: Saturday, February 28 2004 08:00
A free great text/script editor for BoA! in Blades of Avernum
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quote:
Originally written by Overwhelming:
Let me know what you think.


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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

Kelandon's Pink and Pretty Page!!: the authorized location for all things by me
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Religion, Homosexuality, the Usual in General
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Overwhelming, two small points and then I'll go away for a bit: first, the word is homosexuality, not homosexualism. Second, she quoted and interpreted Romans 1:26-27 in that post. You should probably read and analyze the whole thing, rather than doing it piecemeal.

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Northern Kingdom 0: Prologue
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TESTERS REQUIRED FOR A VERY SIMPLE SCENARIO! in Blades of Avernum
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Don't release this. Just because you finished something that is bug-free doesn't mean you should release it. It appears to have no scenario value whatsoever. If people want a big room full of monsters, they can make that themselves.

On the other hand, I was wondering when BoA would get its first truly bad scenario....

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

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Posts: 7968 | Registered: Saturday, February 28 2004 08:00
Stumped on dialogue. in Blades of Avernum Editor
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I believe this script will still fail if you try to run node 14, because you are missing the second string. That second string, by the way, is probably what you wanted when you wrote your text1's for each of these nodes. Just move the text1's into the second string of the begin_shop_mode and then write a new text1 for finishing shopping.

AND WHY ON EARTH ARE YOU MAKING A HLPM?! (Check link in sig!)

EDIT: You also need a scenario START_STATE. Not sure if it gives an error if you don't have it, but you should have it anyway. (Yes, this is different from the START_SCENARIO_STATE. Look at VoDT's scenario script if you want to know all the states that you should have.)

[ Tuesday, July 13, 2004 09:56: Message edited by: Just Call Me Kel ]

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

Kelandon's Pink and Pretty Page!!: the authorized location for all things by me
The Archive of all released BoE scenarios ever
Posts: 7968 | Registered: Saturday, February 28 2004 08:00
Stumped on dialogue. in Blades of Avernum
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I believe this script will still fail if you try to run node 14, because you are missing the second string. That second string, by the way, is probably what you wanted when you wrote your text1's for each of these nodes. Just move the text1's into the second string of the begin_shop_mode and then write a new text1 for finishing shopping.

AND WHY ON EARTH ARE YOU MAKING A HLPM?! (Check link in sig!)

EDIT: You also need a scenario START_STATE. Not sure if it gives an error if you don't have it, but you should have it anyway. (Yes, this is different from the START_SCENARIO_STATE. Look at VoDT's scenario script if you want to know all the states that you should have.)

[ Tuesday, July 13, 2004 09:56: Message edited by: Just Call Me Kel ]

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

Kelandon's Pink and Pretty Page!!: the authorized location for all things by me
The Archive of all released BoE scenarios ever
Posts: 7968 | Registered: Saturday, February 28 2004 08:00
Religion, Homosexuality, the Usual in General
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Thank you, Cav. That is much what I thought was true of most of those passages. The one that intrigued me was Leviticus 18:22, because while I had read most of this information before (NT references to "homosexuality" were actually references to temple prostitution and pagan rituals and pederasty), the bizarre sophistry I had seen around Leviticus 18:22 did not make any sense. What you wrote made sense. However, I have a few points that need clarifying.

First, whether something is a sin or is ritually unclean seems to me a point of small distinction. They're still both things that are not done. And for that matter, in the part of Numbers that I'm reading right now, being ritually unclean meant that you couldn't take part in various ceremonies -- it was almost like excommunication. Being ritually unclean was a pretty big deal, as far as I can tell. Is that a correct understanding of the phrase?

Second, I am STILL looking for the place in the NT where Jesus or anyone else dismisses this part of the Law. See the above reference to Acts for the reason (as I understand it) that modern Christians don't follow the kosher laws and so on. I believe you that this reference exists, but no one has bothered to cite it yet.

As for the third paragraph of explanation... that literal translation is interesting. The question in my mind is how likely that is, that this verse was banning only same-sex intercourse in a woman's bed. While the explanation about not mixing things makes sense -- it very much fits with the context of the verse -- I wonder a little. I shall have to read more on this. It would be interesting to know the counter-arguments.

After my previous post, it occurred to me that there was at least one other interpretation that held water: that the "as you would with a woman" part made absolutely no sense and thus the whole thing was moot anyway. It appears that is the case.

Oh, and AM:
quote:
Originally written by Andrew Miller:
I just hate intolerance.
Careful that you don't become what you hate. An anti-gay stance may be bigoted, but it may also simply be uninformed (or misinformed, as the case may be). Many of the people on these boards are quite young and haven't had time to develop their own ideas separate from their parents' teachings. You got into an argument with at least one person who I suspect is barely in his teens. Just keep in mind to whom you are speaking.

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Northern Kingdom 0: Prologue
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dragons?love em hate em? in The Avernum Trilogy
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Mr im 2 saxy 4 this post again makes such reasoned and valid points.

I felt no qualms about killing Pyrog in A1, and I felt sad when Motrax died shortly after A2. I celebrated when Athron had her babies, knowing that dragons would not die out, but I had the serious urge to kill Sulfras just to test myself against that kind of power.

Overall, I could understand the dragons' perspective enough not to get too frustrated with them, and I liked them enough not to want them to go extinct, but I can't say I was terribly fond of any except Motrax.

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

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Misc. Scenario ideas/wishlist in Blades of Avernum
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Archimage is only better than archmagi if you are intending to be an image (ie, a picture). If you are intending to be a mage (ie, a magic-user), then archmage would be much better. Or archmagus, if your really wanted to be arcane.

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

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