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WTF?(SPOILERS) in Avernum 4
Law Bringer
Member # 6785
Profile #2
You need to stay close to the Vahnatai, otherwise they jump downstairs or hold back. It depends upon the fortress and the area in it.

The first fortress has several stairs going down. You want the one in the southwest area. Downstairs they go north to a barred gate that you need to open for them. The lever is hard to see.
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What does Kelner have to do with Patrick's Tower? in Avernum 4
Law Bringer
Member # 6785
Profile #7
quote:
Anyway, this first key probably gets me nowhere in the upper floor, as the door in the SE corner of the left section upstairs won't open - the message about the lock being complex and me not having the proper key pops up. My Unlock Door spell wasn't very powerful when I last visited there. Can Unlock door open it at all?

The second key should open this door if you are talking about the one I think you are.
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Happy pesach! in General
Law Bringer
Member # 6785
Profile #12
The Last Supper of Christ was a Passover (Pesach) meal. That's why the holidays of Easter and Passover are so close together.

Happy holidays to the other Jews out there.

Matzah is supposed to remind you of the suffering. It's not called the bread of affliction for nothing when you use it for sandwiches. One careless bite and your sandwich shatters.
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Do we have a new moderator? in General
Law Bringer
Member # 6785
Profile #27
Hey, Christian bashing is still one of the few politically correct ones out there. At least until Bush makes an executive order declaring it illegal and detaining all Christian bashers without public trials. There has been a jump in sealed trials with no record that they even happened.

Still since Jeff runs the boards it's his right to choose what he wants to allow.
Posts: 4643 | Registered: Friday, February 10 2006 08:00
How did you discover Avernum? in The Avernum Trilogy
Law Bringer
Member # 6785
Profile #35
I bought a CD of 1000 games and the Exile demos were on it. Only Exile 3 would install so I played that and liked it. I bought the Exile trilogy and Blades since the other games wouldn't run on my system. When I upgraded I tried the Avernum demos and bought them and Geneforge games. I'm finally getting around to the Geneforge trilogy and might try Nethergate later.

I started playing Ultima II on my roommate's computer (Apple II+).

It was a group purchase and I liked it until I reached the end.

I guess I like Avernum 2 the best, but A4 is a better combat system.
Posts: 4643 | Registered: Friday, February 10 2006 08:00
What do u want to be in Geneforge 4? in Geneforge Series
Law Bringer
Member # 6785
Profile #6
I like agents and guardians next with a shaper being last of the old choices. I would really like to see what Jeff has planned for the game before making my choice for the first time through the game. Most of the poll's choices wouldn't last long enough to be any fun.

Geneforge is harder than Avernum, because unless you run a guardian or a shaper with lots of creations you can die too quickly. Even running a similar character through the same areas produces different results.
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Athame in Avernum 4
Law Bringer
Member # 6785
Profile #12
You first see it in A1/E1 to break the seal to Grah-hoth's bottle prison. There is some mention that this is one of several, but it may have been the only one originally brought to Avernum.
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Sudden Big Leap in Difficulty *post-Honeycomb spoiler* in Avernum 4
Law Bringer
Member # 6785
Profile #6
Acid spray the pylons a few times and retreat to deal with the monsters. Area effect spells like icy rain and lightning spray speed up the killing process with the monsters. It takes a few energy potions to finish the trap, but you can fight your way out without killing the vahnatai and pylons on the way in to the trap.
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Frozen by the Pylons in Avernum 4
Law Bringer
Member # 6785
Profile #10
My singleton could blast between 2 to 5 pylons between recharge trips depending upon what stray monsters were in the area. My party of 4 could get more because of first aid recharging of spell points. Being frozen is temporary, just watch that a frozen character doesn't get damaged and go unconcious. Team work speeds up the process.

I tried the finesse approach and found that you miss the spellbooks until after R-I flees. Then the pylons go neutral.
Posts: 4643 | Registered: Friday, February 10 2006 08:00
Jinx Blade? in Avernum 4
Law Bringer
Member # 6785
Profile #7
What I liked about the ghostly blade is that it is lower in weight for low strength characters. The hostile effect reduction and damage are nice too. I used it until deep into the Great Cave.
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Frozen by the Pylons in Avernum 4
Law Bringer
Member # 6785
Profile #6
Why go around the pylons when for a little more effort you can blast them to bits? Apply the same rule as going around them. You can nail the pylons with spells from outside their attack range. After a few of them you'll get it down pat. There's something nice about going from Fort Remote to R-I's Basalt Fortress without having to stop and inch around pylons. Not to mention it solves most of your money problems.
Posts: 4643 | Registered: Friday, February 10 2006 08:00
Help can't get Quest in Avernum 4
Law Bringer
Member # 6785
Profile #4
There are 2 groups of goblins. The ones you need are past the message. There are 3 more in a holding cell in the center area.
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Aranea Stoneseer in Avernum 4
Law Bringer
Member # 6785
Profile #7
The aranea stoneseer is in the Great Cave's southeast corner east of Almaria. There are two entrances to the lower level. The shard arachnia are hard to kill since most spells and weapons do little damage.
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The Sequel in Geneforge Series
Law Bringer
Member # 6785
Profile #6
I'm still working through GF1, but I would like more multiple target or area effect spells than searing orbs. Having to haste just to have a real chance versus multiple monsters is a bother. I've been using crystals for a second spell attack and trying to use speed pods to keep from getting swarmed. I usually am out of spray crystals when I face 3 or more attackers.

I haven't shaped yet, but it should always be an option. Maybe leave it to the middle of the game so you develope other skills first.
Posts: 4643 | Registered: Friday, February 10 2006 08:00
End Game in Avernum 4
Law Bringer
Member # 6785
Profile #13
Increasing R-I's health so the battle takes longer isn't the problem. The choice menu for actions taken needs to be increased. Hrickis and Nodicuas had enough different options so it was somewhat interesting. They were also a challenge because they were significantly higher level than the player's level would normally be at the time they were first encountered.

R-I has two summoned creatures, the energy balls, and 3 scripted attacks. In A3 she has a better scripted fight than this one. Even the liches are better scripted for their fight options.

I fought her as a singleton without my Vahnatai allies. I got down the stairs ahead of them and killed everything myself. It should have been harder. The only problem was I got into a stun loop where I didn't get an attack.
Posts: 4643 | Registered: Friday, February 10 2006 08:00
UBB Quirk? in General
Law Bringer
Member # 6785
Profile #5
You know what they say, "To err is human. To really foul things up takes a computer."

Learn to live with the possibility that you might have to beg some IT to retrieve your files.
Posts: 4643 | Registered: Friday, February 10 2006 08:00
School of Hard Knocks in Geneforge Series
Law Bringer
Member # 6785
Profile #1
I'm trying it with an Agent and a Guardian too. I'm just past that point and from what I've seen with the walkthrough it's not going to be better for a while.

Shapers and Agents get almost no benefit from increased endurance. Guardians get the most according to the formulas.

Shapers are meant to hang back and let their creations take the damage for them. Agents are supposed to blast first and hope nothing is left to fight them. The next section north of Watchhill is no better. The Atrilla nail you with poison or is it acid so you can't fight more than one at a time.

I tried the Dry Wastes north of the Bandit Woods only to find that the monsters do over 100 points of damage.

Raise quick action to go ahead of the monsters and just save often. It's suppose to get better eventually.
Posts: 4643 | Registered: Friday, February 10 2006 08:00
End Game in Avernum 4
Law Bringer
Member # 6785
Profile #9
Jeff made one panel tool use 16 just to screw with everyone's minds.

The final battle isn't that bad even as a singleton in Torment mode. R-I just summons help that summon more help. If you turn off all the panels, then there is less to fight. I missed the one to stop the golems, and they weren't that bad.

The Vahnatai Lord isn't too bad either. He can't parry area attacks like Icy Rain. The same problem you had with Nodicuas comes back to haunt the monsters.

I thought the end was too easy. It doesn't make the top 3 fights. For me they were Nodicuas, getting Demonslayer, and that Gazer in the dungeon with Demonslayer. I know Jeff said that he wanted an easier end after complaints about a Geneforge end, but the Torment version should have a special script to give a true challenge.
Posts: 4643 | Registered: Friday, February 10 2006 08:00
Help can't get Quest in Avernum 4
Law Bringer
Member # 6785
Profile #1
If you got the message about goblin tracks in the lower level of Fort Monastary, you should have gone farther and killed the 4 goblins around the corner. You need to do both to get an option about saying you found the way.
Posts: 4643 | Registered: Friday, February 10 2006 08:00
What is the best spell? in Avernum 4
Law Bringer
Member # 6785
Profile #13
Some of these already exist. The divine retribution wand doesn't work too well for high level encounters. Lightning wand is fairly good. The corruption baton covers all monsters with acid spray.

All of them work well for low level encounters.
Posts: 4643 | Registered: Friday, February 10 2006 08:00
Hell freezes over. in General
Law Bringer
Member # 6785
Profile #5
I read a review in the Wall Street Journal that makes it seem like a good idea. It makes Windows more useable than that piece of junk emulator that Microsoft sells. Microsoft deliberately disabled 3D graphics to prevent game use.

Even if you get a Windows virus you should be able to run the Mac part to get help.

I was wondering if anyone that had an Intel based Mac had downloaded Boot Camp and tried out Windows games? The games mentioned in the article like Flight Simulator wouldn't have pushed the system to a limit.
Posts: 4643 | Registered: Friday, February 10 2006 08:00
Saved Games in Avernum 4
Law Bringer
Member # 6785
Profile #2
You can always overwrite an old game file.
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Lost Bahssikava (a1) in The Avernum Trilogy
Law Bringer
Member # 6785
Profile #2
Once you find the passage you have to go until you trigger the message that you found it.
Posts: 4643 | Registered: Friday, February 10 2006 08:00
DEMONSLAYER in Avernum 4
Law Bringer
Member # 6785
Profile #17
I'd rather use another sword that has better attack bonuses like Radiant Soulblade or Seeking Rapier. By the end game I boosted hardiness so I don't take much damage. That and a lot of invulnerability elixirs that were just piling up. In the end I was zapping everything with spells or bow since I was too far away for melee attacks. Demonslayer didn't seem as good as in the other games for damage even versus a demon.
Posts: 4643 | Registered: Friday, February 10 2006 08:00
Singleton party in Avernum 4
Law Bringer
Member # 6785
Profile #104
Singleton in Torment

I finally finished at level 45 for my nephil pure spirit divine touched archer/fighter/mage/thief/priest. Missed level 46 by a few points.

Dorikas and the Darkside Loyalists were a challenge, although for a fight versus party level it was still easier than Nodicuas. The last battle, I was two rounds away from winning and the screen froze. At least I only had to refight that battle. A bit easier than I thought it would be after the fights in Erika's Ruins.

I'm taking a break from Avernum to load and run the Geneforge Trilogy before the next chapter is released.
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