What is the best spell?

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AuthorTopic: What is the best spell?
Warrior
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Please select the best spell so I can make a wand for everyone to use.

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Agent
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They're all good for different creatures along the way. For example, Ice Spray does more damage to some Vahnatai than Arcane Blow, even though Arcane Blow is immensely powerful, and Acid Spray while useless against most creatures is indispensable against Golems.

Maybe there's a way using scripting to create a wand which lets you choose?

- Archmagus Micael

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Law Bringer
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Um... you only included 6 spells. Why is this? I mean, I personally like the Daze spells, and used them frequently in my games.

But in all honesty, my favorite must be RETRIBUTION!!!

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Guardian
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Oops, wrong game.

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Warrior
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I meant out of those six! :mad:

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Councilor
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Dikiyoba voted for divine retribution. Or RETRIBUTION!!!, if you prefer to spell it like that. Dikiyoba rather likes divine fire as well.

Edit: In all fairness, though, I was voting uninformed, since my party is still running around in the demo. At least they're making good use of their repel spirit in the mine. Can I get a ridiculously high level repel spirit wand instead?

[ Friday, April 07, 2006 13:07: Message edited by: Dikiyoba ]
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Warrior
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why have you only incuded 6 spells. all the spells are good but all for diferent things e.g.
repel spirit is awsom if u fighting shades or zombys
Posts: 80 | Registered: Wednesday, March 29 2006 08:00
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Llamas got a point.
wizards are immune to spells like divine retribution but are effected by spells like fireblast.
Anyway you should have included all spells not just 6.

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Posts: 165 | Registered: Friday, October 28 2005 07:00
Warrior
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True. But I wanted the most damage-dealing spells to be asked.

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Then why did you not include icelances.
As far as i know it dose more damage than lightning spray.

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Councilor
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There isn't an Ice Lances spell in Avernum 4. There's Icy Rain but not Ice Lances.

Dikiyoba.

Edit: Typo.

[ Friday, April 07, 2006 17:15: Message edited by: Dikiyoba ]
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Shock Trooper
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Why not make the wand do several of the above in a row?

Or is that not possible. Probably not.

[ Friday, April 07, 2006 17:40: Message edited by: Dallerdin with a custom moniker. ]

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Posts: 364 | Registered: Saturday, January 17 2004 08:00
Warrior
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Probably is. I see if anyopne can help me though.

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Law Bringer
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Some of these already exist. The divine retribution wand doesn't work too well for high level encounters. Lightning wand is fairly good. The corruption baton covers all monsters with acid spray.

All of them work well for low level encounters.
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The best spell is "File: Quit"

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Warrior
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I ONLY WANTED PEOPLE TO CHOOSE BETWEEN THOSE SIX!!!!!!!! :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

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Posts: 59 | Registered: Sunday, July 10 2005 07:00
Law Bringer
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Are you done screaming yet?

If you're going to go ahead and make the item, and you're only willing to consider those 6 spells, then I see two options. First, you can make a Fireblast wand, since Fireblast tends to be relatively even with Arcane Blow (in my experience). Second, you can make a hyper-charged wand of RETRIBUTION!!!, since the current one is lackluster.

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Warrior
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I vote for Acid Spray, it does a lot of damage over time and was the way to kill all the pylons on the way to the Basalt Fortress. I like Icy Rain too, Lighting Spray ic nice when 3 foes are close together.
I prefer to avoid high level damage spells, they don't seem to be cost effective.
Posts: 70 | Registered: Thursday, February 16 2006 08:00
Agent
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I don't think we're going to be able to make up our minds enough to help you on this one.

Just choose, and then if you want make it/them avaliable to the community. Then it's up to them to use it/them or not.

- Archmagus Micael

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As far as wand-making goes, Divine Retribution seems like your best bet. Spray Acid is very cheap to begin with, so there's no point making a wand of it. Divine Retribution does a lot of damage and is very spell-point expensive, so a wand of Divine Retribution makes a lot of sense.

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Posts: 7968 | Registered: Saturday, February 28 2004 08:00
Warrior
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Oh, fine! I will just make a wand for each of those six spells! Heres Fireblast:

begindefineitem 494;
import = 0;
it_name = "Apocalypse Wand";
it_graphic_sheet = 8;
it_which_icon_ground = 12;
it_which_icon_inven = 13;
it_weight = 1;
it_ability = 191;
it_value = 999;
it_level = 999;
it_charges = 999;
it_extra_description = -1;

Divine Retribution:

begindefineitem 495;
import = 0;
it_name = "Apocalypse Wand";
it_graphic_sheet = 8;
it_which_icon_ground = 12;
it_which_icon_inven = 13;
it_weight = 1;
it_ability = 164;
it_value = 999;
it_level = 999;
it_charges = 999;
it_extra_description = -1;

Divine Fire:

begindefineitem 496;
import = 0;
it_name = "Apocalypse Wand";
it_graphic_sheet = 8;
it_which_icon_ground = 12;
it_which_icon_inven = 13;
it_weight = 1;
it_ability = 193;
it_value = 999;
it_level = 999;
it_charges = 999;
it_extra_description = -1;

Arcane Blow

begindefineitem 497;
import = 0;
it_name = "Apocalypse Wand";
it_graphic_sheet = 8;
it_which_icon_ground = 12;
it_which_icon_inven = 13;
it_weight = 1;
it_ability = 192;
it_value = 999;
it_level = 999;
it_charges = 999;
it_extra_description = -1;

Lightning Spray

begindefineitem 498;
import = 0;
it_name = "Apocalypse Wand";
it_graphic_sheet = 8;
it_which_icon_ground = 12;
it_which_icon_inven = 13;
it_weight = 1;
it_ability = 5;
it_value = 999;
it_level = 999;
it_charges = 999;
it_extra_description = -1;

Spray Acid

begindefineitem 499;
import = 0;
it_name = "Apocalypse Wand";
it_graphic_sheet = 8;
it_which_icon_ground = 12;
it_which_icon_inven = 13;
it_weight = 1;
it_ability = 160;
it_value = 999;
it_level = 999;
it_charges = 999;
it_extra_description = -1;

Be sure that all begindefineitem strings have different values. Otherwise, they will overlap with the present items and if you delete the wands, you will have a different item if a slot where it's not supposed to be. I remember when I made my supersword, and it overlapped with a necklace. I had a NECKLACE as a weapon! :eek: Can you imagine? Don't answer that question.

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Shock Trooper
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I am a programming-ignorant Avernum 4 player :P so could you please tell me how I can put those nice codes into my game to actually see the wand and not a code? And when you tell me the file, should I paste it at the beginning? middle? end? any place is good? Thank you and sorry :P

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A4 Files -> Scripts -> av4itemschars.txt

Put it at the very end.

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Infiltrator
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Personally I like slow. Why wasn't it included?

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Don't get him started again...

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