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Ok then, New question in Blades of Avernum
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It is literally right next to the BoA application that you open to play the game. Chapter 12, I believe, is the walkthrough.

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

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Ok then, New question in Blades of Avernum
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EDIT: nm, figured it out. Say "Quark."

Also, you can read the walkthrough in the Blades of Avernum Manual pdf file.

[ Saturday, October 02, 2004 13:26: Message edited by: Kelandon ]

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

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How to raise money? in General
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I generally loathe the older method of calculating high school GPA, namely weighting honors and APs with a full 1.0 grade point and usually (depending on the school) ignoring pluses and minuses. By that system, an A- in an AP class is a 5.0. By the newer system (weighting with 0.3 and counting pluses and minuses), it's a 4.0.

The advantage of the latter system is that it takes into account whether you took harder classes, but not so seriously that it skews your entire GPA. By that method, I had a 4.08 GPA in high school. By the older method, I had a 4.4 or something like that.

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.

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Best? in The Avernum Trilogy
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If you're looking for a good game to play over the next month or so and then forget about, buy A3. If you want a game that will produce good gameplay at a slightly reduced amount now but continually progressing over the next, oh, probably at least seven or eight years, buy BoA.

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

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Killing of Innocent Topics... in General
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Oh, bah. I'll just do it.

quote:
Originally written by Mark Jibollik:
Recently, you all killed a topic that I myself created (And why did you give me the name Alec? That is not my name). I believe it was called "contentious (sp?) and unsupported." Also, it said that I was insulting.

Now, you all may need a review on what the content was of my post, and you all will need to reflect on your actions...
Okay. Reflecting mode on.

1)You all insulted my opinion and myself. Not the other way around. I stated my opinion, and asked for feedback and debate. Note that it was a highly contentious opinion, though. Several of the members on this board are gay, and saying that homosexuality is morally wrong is a controversial statement whether you are aware of it or not.

You all (the members, at least some of them, are in error), just as the powers that be are: Mods, Admins, etc. (Only those invovled) Yeah. You, a complete newbie, know the rules of these boards better than the mods and the admins. I don't suppose I have to say much about this.

2)You called my post "contentious" (sp?). How could you claim that when I stated a personal belief that was unspecific and un-general at that point and time? It was not pointed at any one individual. You fail to understand the concept of "hate speech," then. Hate speech targets a category of people in such a way that every individual in that group is affected. No, you did not point at any one individual; you pointed at a large number of individuals.

3)You called my post "unsupportive." This may be true, but I was not given an adequate opportunity to convey those certain facts that support my arguement. The idea is to give some sort of evidence for your opinion at the same time as giving your opinion. Otherwise you open yourself up to being lambasted as an idiot and a fool.

4)One individual tried to call me a "retard." I believe that to be offensive and consider that flaming, as would any other board. I did not flame anyone else. Sure. You were flamed. However, you did start a topic with hate speech. Generally when an argument develops and both sides are clearly being unreasonble, the topic gets locked. No point in continuing a stupid discussion.

In short, I am not upset or enraged. In fact, I am disappointed that the members here cannot maturely debate opinions when given the oppurtunity. Yeah, like you presented anything resembling the beginning to a mature debate.

I am also disappointed that those in authority at this site cannot keep flaming from occuring That would be amazing indeed -- a flame auto-filter! New UBB technology!

or at least correct it when it appears. They did. They locked the topic. They don't go back and edit posts unless they are particularly egregiously in violation of the CoC, namely giving ways of cracking SW games or posting obscene images.

Finally, I am amazed at the reasons for closing a topic that did nothing wrong. Hate speech and flaming within the first page a pretty good sign that something went wrong with the topic.
You're new. Let it go. Everyone's first new topic goes pretty badly. Mine managed to anger almost every major BoE designer in the course of seven or eight pages, as I recall.

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.

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Killing of Innocent Topics... in General
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Your post

Recent threads on the same topic or drifting to this topic... 1 2 3...

Note that the most successful threads (mine) focus on some smaller part of this discussion, such as what the Bible says about homosexuality, not just homosexuality in general. At this point, though, the discussion has been beaten to death. Wait another year until new people have joined, and then maybe we can renew this topic.

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.

Kelandon's Pink and Pretty Page!!: the authorized location for all things by me
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Posts: 7968 | Registered: Saturday, February 28 2004 08:00
How to raise money? in General
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IQ tests have a short and disturbing history. They originated out of army placement testing (if you tested highly, they trained you to be a general, and if you tested lower, they trained you to be a grunt) and were adopted quite enthusiastically by the eugenics movement shortly thereafter.

Maximums and minimums depend on the test. The Stanford-Benet, for instance, has a maximum of 200, my mom informs me.

IQ after a certain point loses its original meaning. It is supposed to be your mental age divided by your chronological age as a percent -- hence "quotient." This makes sense for children: a child of age 8 with the supposed mental age of a 16-year-old would have an IQ of 200. But a person at age 20 with an IQ of 200 would have the mental age of... a 40-year-old? That makes little sense.

Standardized testing as a measure of intelligence is a bizarre and horribly problematic measure, anyway. Virtually all intelligence tests ever designed show statistical bias based on race, ethnicity, income, and gender, among other things, but there is no evidence to show that these results on standardized tests show actual differences in intelligence.

IQ tests then remind me of SAT tests, because the two are evil cousins, and I have a whole rant on them that I'll save you. Suffice it to say that I work for the Princeton Review teaching SAT prep classes, and the SAT is a horribly bad test. And the new SAT for March '05 and later is even worse.

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.

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Spiderweb Software - One Year On in General
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I HAVE WASTED SEVEN MONTHS OF MY LIFE ON YOU PEOPLE

DAMMIT

On the bright side, though... uh... there is no bright side. :(

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.

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Character editor in Blades of Avernum Editor
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This question has been asked and answered dozens of times before. Before you ask a question, do a quick check over old threads to see if it has been asked before (at least within the past month). The boards have a search feature to make this easier.

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

Kelandon's Pink and Pretty Page!!: the authorized location for all things by me
The Archive of all released BoE scenarios ever
Posts: 7968 | Registered: Saturday, February 28 2004 08:00
Character editor in Blades of Avernum
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This question has been asked and answered dozens of times before. Before you ask a question, do a quick check over old threads to see if it has been asked before (at least within the past month). The boards have a search feature to make this easier.

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

Kelandon's Pink and Pretty Page!!: the authorized location for all things by me
The Archive of all released BoE scenarios ever
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Avernum 4 in General
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Rentar-Ihrno's vahnatai were Resting at the time, though. There are other clans, of course, but those seem to be the nearest, making contact with others less likely.

The sliths had already been exiled by that point, too, meaning that the huge steel door in the bottom of Lost Bahssikava would have been sealed shut already, which would mean that in order to come into contact with sliths other than the ones in Avernum proper, they would've had to find another route back to the slith homeland. I suppose that's possible, though.

EDIT: And I'm betting it's a sequel, not a prequel, as much as the latter would rock the former.

[ Thursday, September 30, 2004 09:30: Message edited by: Kelandon ]

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.

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Simulacrum!.. what monsters are on your list? in The Avernum Trilogy
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Thread necromancy is only bad if the necromancer has nothing new to add to a topic. In this case, I'm pretty sure it was fine.

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

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Jeff's rep and the Perils of Creating a Scenario Editor in General
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quote:
Originally written by Theodis:
In buisiness ethics are generally thrown out the window.
Your apologism may have gone somewhat too far here.

While you personally may not feel ripped off because ZKR was good enough for you, other people have been a tad frustrated to have battled their way through the majority of Demon Island II and not be able to finish because of an undocumented bug. And moreover, many people bought BoE in order to make scenarios, not just to play them.

Perhaps that's the issue, come to think of it: BoE had at least three different components, namely 1) playing the three pre-packaged scenarios, 2) playing third-party scenarios, and 3) making scenarios. BoE pulls off 1 quite well, but many people didn't buy it for that. BoE somewhat fails at 2 -- undocumented bugs make an incredible number of scenarios more difficult and sometimes impossible to finish. BoE is not quite a disaster at 3, but it comes close in some ways.

You bought it for 1, but many people didn't. I know I bought it for 2 and 3, mostly 3, and there it does not do what it is advertised as doing. Hopefully you can understand that someone else who bought BoE with different things in mind feels differently when confronted with BoE's limitations.

Spiderweb really doesn't care if we buy a couple of their games, realize the support just isn't there, and then never buy more. They make much more off of new customers than repeat customers (and no, I don't have the statistics to back me up on this, but I can almost guarantee you that it's true). Thus, voting with one's pocketbook is not terribly effective. Of course if we hate their games and their company we won't buy them anymore, but it would be nice to get what we were told we paid for.

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.

Kelandon's Pink and Pretty Page!!: the authorized location for all things by me
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Jeff's rep and the Perils of Creating a Scenario Editor in General
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It just strikes me as morally wrong to imply that one would provide bug fixes and then not deliver them. Maybe I'm out of line here, but that's just my general feeling.

Really, read the links that I posted on the other thread. If your opinion is unchanged at that point, then I will respect it.

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.

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An idea, and hear me out on this... in Blades of Avernum Editor
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Ephesos, the irritation was directed at Squirrel, not at you. If you can make a scenario, go for it. We welcome all the scenarios we can get. But the idea is 5% of the thing at most; the rest is execution. Your idea shows promise, but that means almost nothing in terms of the final product.

EDIT: Squirrel, stop it.

[ Tuesday, September 28, 2004 19:48: Message edited by: Kelandon ]

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

Kelandon's Pink and Pretty Page!!: the authorized location for all things by me
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Posts: 7968 | Registered: Saturday, February 28 2004 08:00
An idea, and hear me out on this... in Blades of Avernum
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Ephesos, the irritation was directed at Squirrel, not at you. If you can make a scenario, go for it. We welcome all the scenarios we can get. But the idea is 5% of the thing at most; the rest is execution. Your idea shows promise, but that means almost nothing in terms of the final product.

EDIT: Squirrel, stop it.

[ Tuesday, September 28, 2004 19:48: Message edited by: Kelandon ]

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

Kelandon's Pink and Pretty Page!!: the authorized location for all things by me
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Posts: 7968 | Registered: Saturday, February 28 2004 08:00
Jeff's rep and the Perils of Creating a Scenario Editor in General
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I've always been under the impression that the number one complaint against Jeff has been that he didn't fix known bugs in Blades of Exile. Certain advertised features simply did not work or worked in very bizarre, undocumented, inconsistent ways, and he knew about it (because we told him). That, more than desiring new features, was the issue.

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.

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Retired Heroes??? in Blades of Avernum
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Uh, Toast, the shops continue to change until level 100. The Arena becomes rather pointless after level 50, because you get level-edited dragons at that point, but the Shopping Area still changes. While it is true that after level 65 no new items are added (I think -- it's been a while), the quantities of items available change. Being able to buy two Jade Halberds is different from being able to buy one, I would think.

I tried to use the default items and creatures as much as possible, just because I figured that would not be unbalancing. Balancing custom items and monsters is tricky, and I wasn't sure I was capable of it. For the next version, I would like to expand the capabilities of the Arena, though.

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

Kelandon's Pink and Pretty Page!!: the authorized location for all things by me
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An idea, and hear me out on this... in Blades of Avernum Editor
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Uh, Squirrel, get a clue. And seriously, if you're going to blast someone, at least work on your punctuation.

More to the point, he's not degrading newbies. He's repeating a well-established fact. Most scenarios don't get finished. Talking about one before it is finished is almost always setting one's self up for embarrassment, unless one is a proven designer who consistently finishes these things.

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

Kelandon's Pink and Pretty Page!!: the authorized location for all things by me
The Archive of all released BoE scenarios ever
Posts: 7968 | Registered: Saturday, February 28 2004 08:00
An idea, and hear me out on this... in Blades of Avernum
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Uh, Squirrel, get a clue. And seriously, if you're going to blast someone, at least work on your punctuation.

More to the point, he's not degrading newbies. He's repeating a well-established fact. Most scenarios don't get finished. Talking about one before it is finished is almost always setting one's self up for embarrassment, unless one is a proven designer who consistently finishes these things.

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

Kelandon's Pink and Pretty Page!!: the authorized location for all things by me
The Archive of all released BoE scenarios ever
Posts: 7968 | Registered: Saturday, February 28 2004 08:00
A Neat Trick (if anyone cares) in Blades of Avernum Editor
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Well, we did, but we also realized that SW would not host/acknowledge the existence of any scenario that used the technique.

EDIT: Er, reading more closely, this is slightly different. Yes, one could do this and it would be fine, I think. Nice work. Not tremendously useful, but seems like it could be nice to have as an option.

[ Monday, September 27, 2004 21:22: Message edited by: Kelandon ]

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

Kelandon's Pink and Pretty Page!!: the authorized location for all things by me
The Archive of all released BoE scenarios ever
Posts: 7968 | Registered: Saturday, February 28 2004 08:00
A Neat Trick (if anyone cares) in Blades of Avernum
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Well, we did, but we also realized that SW would not host/acknowledge the existence of any scenario that used the technique.

EDIT: Er, reading more closely, this is slightly different. Yes, one could do this and it would be fine, I think. Nice work. Not tremendously useful, but seems like it could be nice to have as an option.

[ Monday, September 27, 2004 21:22: Message edited by: Kelandon ]

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

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Homosexuality... in General
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Whoever 5000 is doesn't deserve the account. Stop trolling.

BAN TO DEATH

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.

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Retired Heroes??? in Blades of Avernum
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Yeah, I've been meaning to fix that, but I'm not exactly sure how. I figured with three attacks per turn and almost complete invulnerability, it didn't really matter.

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

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Avernum 4 in General
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I liked Spiderweb quite a lot when I was just a casual player of the Avernum Trilogy, Nethergate, and Geneforge series. It wasn't until I got involved with Blades that I felt anything negative towards anyone in the company. I feel that A1, A2, and A3 were pretty darn good games.

That said, I don't know. I've joked before upon hearing that he was considering doing A4 that it was good to hear that he was going to port At the Gallows, but I felt it really should be Stareye to do that. There's an element of seriousness there, though: some designers (Creator, Alcritas) write scenarios in their own universes. Some (Stareye) write scenarios within the Avernum universe. To have a great scenario become non-canonical after it was released because of A4 would be incredibly frustrating.

Yet... I liked A1. I liked A2. I liked A3. Every new game SW releases, I have a lot of fun playing. Part of me would love to see A4, to revisit that world, to see new plotlines and meet new characters, fight new battles and travel to new continents. But... that's what Blades was for!

I don't know. Maybe we can talk Jeff into letting a bunch of BoA designers beta test A4, and if anything disagrees too strongly with any of the scenarios already made, then we can let him know. Heck, maybe I'll be able to do this myself.

I just feel like there's a right way and a wrong way to make an A4, and I'm a little worried that he's going to choose the wrong way.

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