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Originally written by Mark Jibollik:

Recently, you all killed a topic that I myself created (And why did you give me the name Alec? That is not my name). I believe it was called "contentious (sp?) and unsupported." Also, it said that I was insulting.

Now, you all may need a review on what the content was of my post, and you all will need to reflect on your actions...

1)You all insulted my opinion and myself. Not the other way around. I stated my opinion, and asked for feedback and debate. You all (the members, at least some of them, are in error), just as the powers that be are: Mods, Admins, etc. (Only those invovled)

2)You called my post "contentious" (sp?). How could you claim that when I stated a personal belief that was unspecific and un-general at that point and time? It was not pointed at any one individual.

3)You called my post "unsupportive." This may be true, but I was not given an adequate opportunity to convey those certain facts that support my arguement.

4)One individual tried to call me a "retard." I believe that to be offensive and consider that flaming, as would any other board. I did not flame anyone else.

In short, I am not upset or enraged. In fact, I am disappointed that the members here cannot maturely debate opinions when given the oppurtunity. I am also disappointed that those in authority at this site cannot keep flaming from occuring, or at least correct it when it appears. Finally, I am amazed at the reasons for closing a topic that did nothing wrong.

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Homosexuality is wrong. Nature sets this forth. You cannot insert tab A into tab A and get results like entering tab A into tab B. And so on. What do you all think?

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Originally written by Mark Jibollik:
Recently, you all killed a topic that I myself created (And why did you give me the name Alec? That is not my name). I believe it was called "contentious (sp?) and unsupported." Also, it said that I was insulting.

Now, you all may need a review on what the content was of my post, and you all will need to reflect on your actions... Okay. Reflecting mode on.

1)You all insulted my opinion and myself. Not the other way around. I stated my opinion, and asked for feedback and debate. Note that it was a highly contentious opinion, though. Several of the members on this board are gay, and saying that homosexuality is morally wrong is a controversial statement whether you are aware of it or not.

You all (the members, at least some of them, are in error), just as the powers that be are: Mods, Admins, etc. (Only those invovled) Yeah. You, a complete newbie, know the rules of these boards better than the mods and the admins. I don't suppose I have to say much about this.

2)You called my post "contentious" (sp?). How could you claim that when I stated a personal belief that was unspecific and un-general at that point and time? It was not pointed at any one individual. You fail to understand the concept of "hate speech," then. Hate speech targets a category of people in such a way that every individual in that group is affected. No, you did not point at any one individual; you pointed at a large number of individuals.

3)You called my post "unsupportive." This may be true, but I was not given an adequate opportunity to convey those certain facts that support my arguement. The idea is to give some sort of evidence for your opinion at the same time as giving your opinion. Otherwise you open yourself up to being lambasted as an idiot and a fool.

4)One individual tried to call me a "retard." I believe that to be offensive and consider that flaming, as would any other board. I did not flame anyone else. Sure. You were flamed. However, you did start a topic with hate speech. Generally when an argument develops and both sides are clearly being unreasonble, the topic gets locked. No point in continuing a stupid discussion.

In short, I am not upset or enraged. In fact, I am disappointed that the members here cannot maturely debate opinions when given the oppurtunity. Yeah, like you presented anything resembling the beginning to a mature debate.

I am also disappointed that those in authority at this site cannot keep flaming from occuring That would be amazing indeed -- a flame auto-filter! New UBB technology!

or at least correct it when it appears. They did. They locked the topic. They don't go back and edit posts unless they are particularly egregiously in violation of the CoC, namely giving ways of cracking SW games or posting obscene images.

Finally, I am amazed at the reasons for closing a topic that did nothing wrong. Hate speech and flaming within the first page a pretty good sign that something went wrong with the topic.

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