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Electric Sheep One
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Why is that Guardian beating that battle alpha with a hammer?

He's practicing up to work on battle betas, of course.

He wants to be a better battle beta beater.

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Infiltrator
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I think the Janitor Glaahk is a clever idea. Completely unnecessary, of course - we have serviles for that. :)

Another idea besides the hammer and anvil is to brand your creations with runes, like Spharon in G3. You could have Resistance Runes, Speed Runes, or whatever you like.

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quote:
Originally written by Xel'Raga:

That describes my response to that.
For God's sake, don't leech images directly from SA, not even emoticons. They will make you regret it. Use the ones at this mirror instead.

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Posts: 9973 | Registered: Saturday, March 30 2002 08:00
Shock Trooper
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Why? Just out of curiosity, but thank you for showing me that window.

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Posts: 301 | Registered: Tuesday, August 21 2007 07:00
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quote:
Originally written by Xel'Raga:

Why? Just out of curiosity, but thank you for showing me that window.
They like to replace leeched images with images you really don't want to see.

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Apprentice
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One thing that has always bugged me about spiderweb's games is the total lack of in-game music. So far all they've got is creepy background/eviromental noise. it would be really nice if there was actually a musical accompaniment to the game, not something major, just some background music for most of the game and some more epic stuff for the major parts. you don't even have to get rid of the old sound effects, you can just add music over them.

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Posts: 23 | Registered: Sunday, March 9 2008 08:00
Shock Trooper
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With geneforge texts, you don't want to hear Norse-Heavy metal while you read how you will attack a shaper, and on a second point, it just doesn't seem his style.

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Vivan los Drayks! Viva Khyryk! Vivan los Serviles! Vivan los Travokites!
Tastes like Bambi, delicious
No matter what name I have, people can call me Xel
Pylons! this is what you send to blizzard if they cancel Starcraft 2.
Posts: 301 | Registered: Tuesday, August 21 2007 07:00
Infiltrator
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quote:
Originally written by Xel'Raga:

With geneforge texts, you don't want to hear Norse-Heavy metal while you read how you will attack a shaper, and on a second point, it just doesn't seem his style.
Could it fade out of turn off when text comes up?

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Posts: 479 | Registered: Wednesday, July 12 2006 07:00
Agent
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quote:
Originally written by Safey:

quote:
Originally written by Xel'Raga:

With geneforge texts, you don't want to hear Norse-Heavy metal while you read how you will attack a shaper, and on a second point, it just doesn't seem his style.
Could it fade out of turn off when text comes up?

Not easily. And besides, where'd he get the music? If it's good enough to merit including, it would cost money. How 'bout you just listen to your own music while playing, okay lad?

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Posts: 1186 | Registered: Friday, June 18 2004 07:00
Law Bringer
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Jeff has two things against including music, the first is cost for decent music and the second is increasing the file size since most users are dial up.
Posts: 4643 | Registered: Friday, February 10 2006 08:00
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quote:
Originally written by Randomizer:

Jeff has two things against including music, the first is cost for decent music and the second is increasing the file size since most users are dial up.
Also, on a personal level he doesn't like background music in games.

(Can it really still be true that most of his users are on dialup? I know he has a lot of customers in Poland and Bolivia, but even so...)

[ Monday, March 10, 2008 14:10: Message edited by: Thuryl ]

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I was on dial-up until January of this year, and I live in England...

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Posts: 2864 | Registered: Monday, September 8 2003 07:00
Lifecrafter
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@Moar muziczz in Jeff's g4m3s..

As I said in some other thread..you don't exactly
hear some heavy metal when entering a penultimate zone..

I like the current state of "music" in Jeff's games..gives ambiance..I mean..do you hear some angelic choir while traversing through a forest? No..you hear wind blowing..leaves rustling..and and and..blood spilling..@_@

[ Tuesday, March 11, 2008 06:23: Message edited by: Azuma ]

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Posts: 732 | Registered: Saturday, June 24 2006 07:00
Apprentice
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I don't know about angelic choirs. But some of us do hear voices. :P
Posts: 21 | Registered: Wednesday, September 12 2007 07:00
Apprentice
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I wasn't asking for major musical involvement, just some background music along with the normal ambience. when I said music I didn't by any means mean death metal, just some more melodic ambience along with the churny vat noises. beside it was just a suggestion, as for some people not wanting music and/or finding it distracting, there is the rather simple solution of simply putting a music on/of function on the menu. the cost issue is understandable, but not all good music is expensive; I'm sure there are some perfectly good (even if they aren't exactly John Williams) composers who would be happy simply to have their music used in a video game.

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Posts: 23 | Registered: Sunday, March 9 2008 08:00
Apprentice
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now hear's some music for Geneforge-Final fantasy victory music! Yay!

Da da da da da da da da-da!
la da dee da-da da da da da-da, da da da da dee!

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Posts: 32 | Registered: Tuesday, February 19 2008 08:00
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Only read the first 4 pages, then my eyes started to bleed from all the nothingness, but I figured I'd put my two cents in anyway. So if I repeat something you've seen here 10 times, I soz.

1. For the love of all that is holy drop the Fyora.

I recently went through 1-4 in sucession and it's sort of a bummer to have NOTHING new in any of the games until the last couple of hours or so (which usually is two dungeons and a lot of talking), which then get ripped from you and stuck 30 hours away in the next game in the last ten minutes of it, not that there was much of anything new in any of the games. >.> (both spells and creations)

But really, I love my long range combat. I can't stand the way the worms look, and it takes SO long to get a Drayk. So I normally have a Fyora for 35% of the game(followed by their icy upgrade). It'd be awfully nice if they made something snazzy and low level that was ranged.

2. Upgradable creations.

When I was playing through G3, I didn't get any new creations for QUITE some time, as I wasn't using canisters and was too broke for proper training. But I kept gaining levels, as did my trusty Fyora...

But it hit it's cap and became worthless 45% of the way into it's life. It'd be nice if at a certian level, or Int/Dex level, that a ranged creation's spells became multi-target. (along with that maybe a melee creation's attacks became double attacks or infused with an element at a certian Int/Str level) I say Int because I've honestly never found a use for Int (on a creation), and it'd be nice to give it some reason to be used other than the two initial points. Oh, and maybe the worms can get a small range AoE acid as an upgrade...that'd be nice, might make 'em worth it.

Greta got the multi-shot in G3, but she got it quite late, and hers was very picky... The monsters had to be REALLY close together and she had to be a good bit away for it to split, while the Ur-Drakon could hit 5 monsters 4 spaces apart from each other two spaces from them. (he even shot it backwards once. o.O)

3. Larger inventory, a pack mule, and/or a much lower weight for all items. 1 iron bar will push me over the encumberance limit until like 15 Str.

4. A better UI/character graphics.

(G3ex) I really don't like that in such a (seemingly) low-budget (graphic wise) game that my green Agent doesn't have a green inventory avatar. To the point that I went and recolored it in Windows Paint. lol

(G4ex) But, really. Do the character slots REALLY have to be that huge? A small bag icon and small ? next to the sprite, three stat bars UNDER the sprite, and the tiny sprite in the center should be enough. I don't think it needs 1/4 of an inch between the bag/?, sprite, and over sized stat bars.

And then enlarging the map to a crude size to fit into that bulky set-up threw off the entire new sleek look of the nice text and new outer UI.

The enviroment screen just feels like it should be bigger, or slightly more zoomed out. It feels cramped, or like I'm not seeing enough of the screen, just an annoyance, really.

Speaking of that...

5. At LEAST one more quick spell/item slot.

In the G4 UI there looks like there's room for 6, even 7 each (if you really wanted that many) if you make use of the side bar for things like the 'get' button and the quest log.

I often toss out useful gems and extra pods because I know they'll just take up inventory space doing nothing because I forget about them in battles because they're in my pack. Same with a lot of spells.

I only recently found the awesomeness of Haste because I had never hotkey'd it, and assumes it was worthless. But two attacks and a gem worth of points? Heck yes. Totally changed my game. I think Torment was only tormenting because I didn't have Haste.

Well, I think that's it...

BIG emphasis on the weight reduction and such... My Shapers always feel utterly useless because I can NEVER attack anything with them, they're always overencumbered. I don't really like having Str as my first max stat on a Shaper, tbh.

So yeah, that's it.

Edited for creation name retardation.

And, some more BG sounds would be nice... I never hear them anymore. In G1 I heard the birds and some light wind, but I never noticed any BG sounds after that. I'll admit, the 'HAIYAYAYAYAI in the Servile towns was annoying, but more BG sounds, or light soft town music would be goodness.

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Apprentice
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3. Larger inventory, a pack mule, and/or a much lower weight for all items. 1 iron bar will push me over the encumberance limit until like 15 Str.
Problem already solved in Geneforge 4.

But otherwise. Why do you play this game when you complain about so many things?
I have never had a problems with any of those of things. Those changes would either be a waste of time to put in or they are..... useless? Bad?
Posts: 21 | Registered: Wednesday, September 12 2007 07:00
Councilor
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Originally by Knirps:

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1. For the love of all that is holy drop the Fyora.
Blasphemy! :P

Seriously, roamers do spit acid, which makes them an okay artila substitute. They do tend to run low on energy in longer battles, though. They are second-tier, so it does take some time to get them, but in G4 there was a canister at the end of the first chapter and training at the beginning of the second.

Dikiyoba.

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Posts: 4346 | Registered: Friday, December 23 2005 08:00
Apprentice
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i just wish for once i was recognized in the game...

i singlehandedly destroy monarch, which neither the shapers, nor the rebels could do, even combined...yet i am still insignificant, still worthless, while greta is now a general just because someone above her died >_>

i also hate that i couldn't have any say in how the drakon rule is just another shaper rule... i mean, they even treat their former form like crap...

so yeah, i hope in G5 we are able to actually become something (and tell the drakons off) before the end credit pre-made mombojumbo
Posts: 1 | Registered: Friday, March 14 2008 07:00
Electric Sheep One
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This has been my complaint for a long time, too. G4 does better than some previous games, but it's still weird that nobody bats an eye when this noob nobody kills Monarch single-handed. Sure, they reward you. But they ought to be totally freaking out, and speaking carefully around you ever after.

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Posts: 3335 | Registered: Thursday, September 4 2003 07:00
Lifecrafter
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I want the Quick Slots to be movable around the screen..and more Quick Slots! That goes for items and spells..

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Posts: 732 | Registered: Saturday, June 24 2006 07:00
Apprentice
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This is really random, but I think it would be really cool to have ornks with turrets grafted onto their backs (so they're less likely to get eaten by rouges)

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Posts: 23 | Registered: Sunday, March 9 2008 08:00
Lifecrafter
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Nah..your wish is too good..so good that it belongs to the idea of Blades of Geneforge and Averforge..

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