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The only way to curb growth is to decrease population. With increasing demand for limited resources it is very likely that there will be a corrective reduction in world population.

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We already have a process for population reduction in place. It's called limited wars. This produces minor reductions in population in third world countries where we don't care about them. Look at Iraq, Africa, revolutions in small Asian countries and see how we are decreasing those areas. Starvation from food supply disruptions are a bonus.

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Dikiyoba: Recently some scientists were considering the viability of attacking an incoming asteroid with a nuclear weapon. Their conclusion was that the sort of nuclear force needed to obliterate a large asteroid (assuming the asteroid wasn't clastic, meaning we'd end up with not just one large but a whole bunch of small asteroids heading straight for us) would require a nuclear bomb so extraordinarily immense that -- regardless of the problems of getting it off the ground -- it would pose a far, far greater threat to the world than it was worth trying to build in case of an incoming asteroid. Needless to say, the idea was scrapped immediately.

Sometimes it actually pays to watch television.

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Then why does my grandfather put donkeys i n his pasture to keep coyotes away?

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If anything that only proves his point. Donkeys being strong enough to be on their on.

Besides, near every animal has a predator. Just because an animal can be hunted down and killed doesn't mean it can't survive on its own. Quite the contrary, actually.

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Originally written by Drew:

Well, I don't think one person is supposed to finish the can all by himself. The can doesn't lend itself very well to being resealed though. Probably the best thing to do would have been to fry/prepare the rest of it and save it in the fridge.

Are cows so helpless? Given that most of their natural predators have been eliminated, I would imagine unfenced cows would do okay for themselves. Wasn't it the case that years before settlers in Australia made it over/through the Blue Mountains, some of their stray livestock had made it through?

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And that's what I found odd about the Mona Lisa, that its subject is simply sitting still and staring at the viewer, but looks so natural doing it. It made me feel something was missing in most other paintings, something I hadn't missed before. Those other painted people just don't look so real. Their artists have managed to paint the shape of a human being, but have fallen short of capturing some array of subtle cues that register a real person on our attention. Leonardo seems to have gotten this, at least for this one pose and in this one painting, five hundred years ago.

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Originally written by Frozen Feet:

Not really; just think carefully what kind of a character you will make. I think we have enough outsiders now, so it'd be good if your character was one of the villagers.

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Goldenking: While I respect and agree with your ideas on the difference between the Human and Drakon sides of the Rebellion, it's effectively moot; the Human side has been all but wiped out, and the Drakon side is pretty much all that's left of the Rebellion. Without the Drakons, there's no Rebellion. Which is sad, since they decided to leave the rest of the Rebellion out to rot.

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Nuh-uh!

According to the Endgame text, the Rebel army moves to retake Illya when the Unbound are released without a hitch. The Rebel Army is Human, Servile, and a few Drayks, and even the game says the Drakons had withdrawn as they were, "Maddened by their losses..." I see no reason why the Rebel Line of Demarcation wouldn't hold true still.

Besides, even if the Drakons did take over completely, they'd be easy to overthrow.

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I agree with Lepus on the Genocide thing. its not genocide to kill your enemies, even if they are all the same race

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Or nationality. Or political opinion. The Shapers fall under both, and lets not kid ourselves, the Rebels aren't targeting people because they're enemies. The Shapers are being targeted because they're just that: Shapers. That is genocide.

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Originally written by Xel'Raga:

With geneforge texts, you don't want to hear Norse-Heavy metal while you read how you will attack a shaper, and on a second point, it just doesn't seem his style.

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Did we stop making nukes after WW2? The shapers getting more liberal is a several century trend the ending of the war is simply a set back. If the war goes on long enough then the conservative shapers won't have the might to make things harsher. This why I can understand the trakovites have a temporary victory. This war increases the powers of the moderate shapers while decreaseing the power of the moderate rebels.

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What does making nukes after WWII have to do with anything?

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Will one thing I noticed is the longer this war goes on the more of the original values both sides have to give. So theoretically if the war goes on long enough their idealogical could reverse.

Also to note the shapers have been loosening their laws for centuries, admittedly very slowly. When you go to the abandon fighting arena on Sucia Isle your character makes a comment that the shapers have long forbidden this barbaric practice. So I put forward the shapers would have grown more liberal as time progressed without the war. The war only speed up things.

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The War's effects only go on as long as the war does. In the Shaper ending, they crack down immensely, and the creations are even worse off than before.

And I highly doubt the Rebels are going to continue launching wave after wave of Unbound if they win. The Drakons don't like being with the "inferior" sides of the Rebellion, meaning that the Serviles, Drakons, Drayks, and Humans would all form into different countries, with Humans and Serviles sticking together, and the Drayks having a few citizens in the Human/Servile Nation.

Of course, that's basically speculation.

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Originally written by Student of Trinity:

That's all true, except ... except ...

The appealingly reasonable moderate Shapers are a nice coat of paint on the bars of a cage. The cage won't break without violence. How many centuries of slavery does it take to outweigh a year of war?

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