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Things were no better when Clinton was in power or democrats held the house or the senate. If it wasn't for internet, TV, Newspaper ect. I wouldn't have know about that change. 2 I have received more help from conservative churches that I ever have from a liberal or government organization.

edit: Either the liberals are impotent or hypocrites, I think hypocrites because they have no trouble giving money to professional couch potatoes producing another generation of professional couch potatoes.

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I guess the cost of living is absurd where you live because usually most months we would have a surplus. I won't say getting them was easy but there weren't any major obstacles.

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Originally written by Dikiyoba:

Originally by Safey:

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It angers me that liberals claim to have the poor mans best interest in yet they are more concerned with idiot nitpicking laws then the real issues.
Then what, in your opinion, are the real issues liberals should be worrying about?

Dikiyoba.

Helping poor people over come poverty instead of merely surviving it. Something to help alleviate the working poor who receive little if any help. Most of the human resource department help people become professional couch potatoes. You lose any benefits if you try to improve your status. Same goes with health care, you try to get a job even if the job doesn't have health coverage(or allows you to afford it) you lose any health coverage provided by the government.

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yes but homeless people are only an extremely small percentage of poor people of which only 20-40 percent are estimated to be gay. The artical also stated that most of the gays were youths kicked out of their families for such opinions so arguable speaking most of them decided their sexuality before they became poor.

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I still find that hard to buy. Food stamps are easy enough too get and because of that food wasn't a problem. The only thing you really need to get food stamps is to show up at your local human resources department and show them that your paycheck can't make ends meet and you can get food stamps. People are just simply to lazy to prepare their food rich or poor and fattening food is just more attractive then healthy food.

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Originally written by Hanged Man:

At least it is statistics. What are you basing your beliefs on besides your own limited experiences? Maybe homeless people aren't out looking for sex (although people seem to have plenty of sex in adversity...), but they can still be gay. As for high schools, I wonder if poor high schools tend to have more hostile views towards open homosexuality. Open-mindedness as a luxury of the rich?

—Alorael, who won't argue that many homeless people have other problems. But why do they have those problems? Being poor is hard, but so is being gay. Being gay and poor is a good way to get cut off from that safety net of friends and relations who won't take you in when you need them.

Most homeless people are substance abusers. You can go to Google put in homeless people drug use and pull up any number of articals about homeless people and substance abuse here is an example: http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?sec=health&res=9D0CEFD61331F932A15751C1 A967958260
Substances abusers are to concerned with their next dose to be worried about whether or nor their gay. All homeless people are poor but not all poor people are homeless. The majority of poor people are not homeless their for your statics assuming they are true is not a good cross sectional for poor people since their are major differences between the habits of poor people and homeless people.

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Nalyd would prefer to live on Vellos.
Why? Vellos has been razed to the ground. You can't even live your ship with out wearing an environmental suit.

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Its was my way of saying that the statics he posted have in some way have been twisted to the advantage of the group who fielded the statics something that is not hard to do,aka"bogus". People who are burnt out on drugs are to concerned with getting their next dose to be worried about sexual relationships. Mentally ill people don't really qualify unless you consider homosexuality a mental illness.
So that says. . . what? That homosexuals aren't druggies and don't have mental disabilities? That if you don't count druggies or the mentally disabled as the poor, that homosexuals take up a greater percentage of the poor?

The statics are bogus. They were posted by a gay rights group and if it is rather easy to distort statics if you want

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And that makes them not poor? Having a house or apartment doesn't mean a substantial source of income is present. And having a mental illness or being addicted to drugs certainly doesn't make anyone any less homeless. Face it, Safey, that was a completely ridiculous claim.
Its was my way of saying that the statics he posted have in some way have been twisted to the advantage of the group who fielded the statics something that is not hard to do,aka"bogus". People who are burnt out on drugs are to concerned with getting their next dose to be worried about sexual relationships. Mentally ill people don't really qualify unless you consider homosexuality a mental illness. As far
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I always considered homosexuality to be something entertained by the rich. Judging from high schools few poor high schools have gay people.
High schools are not the best sample to use because many gay people have not come out yet in high school. High schools that you're familiar with do not constitute a representative sample of anything, so they can't be used to extrapolate anything.

I have meet people (at my college) the ones who complained about gay people at their school come from private schools or schools wealthy neighborhoods. We aren't talking about the school I went too.

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Originally written by Fernication:

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Originally written by Safey:

I always considered homosexuality to be something entertained by the rich.
Honestly, Safey, this is kind of ridiculous. A quick google search provides this claim:

"Gay, lesbian, bisexual, and transgender (GBLT) people make up an estimated 20 to 40 percent of the national homeless population while composing between three and five percent of the general population, according to a report released Tuesday, Jan. 30 by the National Gay and Lesbian Task Force and the National Coalition for the Homeless."
- http://cityonahillpress.com/article.php?id=401

40 percent sounds like a lot to me, too. But queer people are definitely over-, not underrepresented in our lowest classes. Ask anyone who's worked with the homeless...

Most homeless people are people who have burned them selfs out on drugs or have some mental illness. Even if my landlord was to kick my parents and sister out of their home tomorrow the have friends and relatives they could turn too. They wouldn't be force out on the street. I know/hear of people who are pretty bad shape and none of them had to live on the street, This includes hurricane Katrina victims, single parnet families, ect. People in worse shape then I am none of them homeless (some close). Most people who are homeless are either burned out on drugs or have a mental illness. Those who aren't are professional beggars and aren't actually homeless.

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What kind of cities are you living in?and what kind of Grocery store/fast food places do you go too. Lets assume for the moment you don't have a oven and only have a microwave. The gorcery stores I have been too and worked at all had healthy alterinve microwaveable dinners. Now lets also assume your house burned downed, you broke your leg, and lost job you could still eat somewhat healthy because a lot of fast food places offer some form of salad. I still maintain that obesity is a matter lack of self discipline then class. By the way their are times when my oven was working (had to find a place with the filament) and my parents still had no trouble finding healthy food on a very limited budget that was microwavable. Also our lack of money encourage a healthy but cheap alternative, a peanut butter and jelly sandwich. None of the indgreidents need to be refrigerated, cooked, ect.

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I always considered homosexuality to be something entertained by the rich. Judging from high schools few poor high schools have gay people. You might be able to find one or two but it be difficult. However knew friends from the wealthy high schools who often complained about. Even your examples out of history come from times when that particular civilization was prosperous. Wealthy people can afford to indulge in habits that aren't natural. Gay marrage is simply a tool used by those in ivory towers to gain political clout. The only ones who seem to care are those who have alot of money. A poor person is less concerned who visits them in the hospital and more concern that the hospital treats them, less concerned who inherit their wealth and more concern who inherits their bills. That and other left wing issues aren't affordable by poor people. Environmentally friendly cars, to expensive. It angers me that liberals claim to have the poor mans best interest in yet they are more concerned with idiot nitpicking laws then the real issues.

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Coming from a family that wouldn't as rich (their times when both my parents didn't have jobs). Not having a stove,oven,microwave, and internet access (local library) have never been a problem. That said you be hard press to convince me cooking is a matter of class. As far as I know its customary for an apartment to come with an oven. I have seen no discernible difference in the distribution of fast food places in one part of town compared with another part of town. If cooking was more prevalent in one part of town compared too another big business would know about. Since both my parents are weight consensus but neither have had trouble losing weight.

Its is rare for a family not to have a working oven. The oven is a large light bulb. It filament will on rare occasions break. When it does break you go to the store and buy a $15 replacement. The only other way an oven can break is A: its older then you are B: your trying to break it. If you buy a new oven every time the filament breaks then I have to question your intellect or assume your incredibly wealthy. Being poor is no excuse for being fat.

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" Fools announcing their presence to everyone in existence and these are the idiots I have to work with" Thought Shade. His employers (some of which had connections to the mage triad) had already told him what they new of the problem and his own research was turning up blank. He figured that he should join the group for the time being if nothing more then to learn what they know besides some of them might even be useful. Though he did plan on using one of his many alias.

Disembarks off the sky ship and makes his way to where the Triad waited.
Shade "Hi I'm Justin and I here that you are looking for adventures for a quest"

The Most High preist " And what makes you think you are qualified"

Shade" Because this is your ring I believe" Shade offers him back his ring that he just stole from him. The most High Priest quickly grabs its looking embarrassed.

The three nodded their heads in approval

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I have seen no indication that the drakons who rule the rebellion (to what degree can be debated) are morally any better then the shapers. If they win the will be just as cruel as the shapers. They have committed every atroticy the shapers have: crushing people/things that don't follow their will/rules, arrogant to those under them (and often hated), same barbirc methods of treating and exmperimenting with no seinting creatures.

They have with out exeception committed every wrong doing the shapers have. Even if their is one wrong doing the shapers have done I'm sure time will surely change that.

However the shapers have two saving graces that the drakons don't:
1 Drakons gentic self shaping causes maddness. It has been made evedent in the unbound, the drakon's tendencies, canisters, and geneforges that maddness is an unavoidable side effect of their pursit for power. The only way for them to survive is to conintue research that will make them unstable and no one with that out amount of power should be unstable. Let me put it this way, Drakon techinques increase the likely hood of becomeing menstable by several hundredfold (if not thousand), where as traditional shaping techinques the chances are nill.
2 The shapers have experince. Some of the shaper laws are meant to keep them from being challenged. They also make a good point about the dangers of letting every bum off the street shape. The shapers also have some pratical rules like not making new stronger crops becuase they will exhaust the soil and poteinally destroy the enviorment. Are the drakons likely to adobt the shapers more pratical rules? I doubt it. The Drakons who have proven themselves just as cruel as shapers will have to make all of the mistakes the shapers have just when the shapers where starting to learn from them.

I don't support the trakvoite ending for three reasons.
One is that you can't eradicate shaping nor can you erdicate shaping research. The fact that the rouge shapeing techinques have surived despite the shapers best efforts is testiment to that. Even if the whole of soceity was against shaping the shapers and rebel lifecrafters would go into a quite life until horrors of shaping where forgotten and bring back shapeing a new. Only this time no one would no how to deal with it.

Two is that society will find a way to destroy it self. With them it is shaping, with us it is nukes. Even if you could somehow manage to find some method of stoping shapeing, how long would it be before it was replaced by some magic or technolgy equally destructive?

Three is shaping is useful. To compeletly remove shaping from soceity would be the same as banning electricity. Even if you did it over time, it would be an indication of soceitys slow driffting into poverty if nothing else. Their society has depended on shapeing for untold millieums, and yet you want to remove it compeletly with in a few decades?

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I'm tried of people using these events to try put down America. It comes across as very arrogant acting as if your country doesn't have its own problems. The only reason America seems to have more problems is because America is considered the most powerful (note I didn't say best)and therefore America's problems get more media coverage then most other nations do.

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I think that argueing over which is morally right and which is morally wrong. This is war and both have shown that they will do anthing the win. That said I choose my side based on motive. The shapers fight to mantian their empire,order,survial and power. They have mantianed their empire for so long they don't even rember how they begone. Anthing that has lasted that long is going to have major problems with corruption and the fact that the shapers have lasted this long shows that they are really good at matianing order. I'm suprised that they have as little corruption as they do. Statiscally the longer you last the more likely you are to run into problems.

The Rebellion on the other has lasted at the most a few decades. Already the rebellion is spliting into major factions. The Creations have all but casted the humans out the rebellion and a small village of cryodrayks rebel against the rebellion (irony anyone)despite the fact that the shapers are on their doorstep and almost every drayk you talk to is not to happy with the draykons. Even the serviles aren't too happy with them. One cryodrayk/drayk said that they wouldn't fight to remove the shapers to replace them with draykons.
You can argue that this is war and the draykons are justified in seizing some land here and killing a few descendats here. However if one does that the need to people to maintian order among their ranks and the drakons don't seem to beable to do that as well as the shapers can.

Lastly you need to consider motives. The shapers fight for two main reason in order of most importance to least importance: Survial, maintiaing order
The rebellion fights for two main reason in order most to least importance: Surivial, vengance. Examples: The Drakons have level entire cities of stragtic value out of venegenace instead of being stasisfied with pushing the shapers out.
As the shapers come closer to success their main goal will become to maintian order. I'm assuming that this will for the time being lead to stability.
As the rebellion comes closer to success their main goal will switch from survial to getting revenge. I don't of any examples of people or societys who have donated a significant amout of their prioirties to vengances to be stable. If the rebellions wins with the drakons leading the rebellions even if they compeltly wipe all traces of shapers from history, they will destroy themselfs. They have trouble with internal bickering with impedeing doom hovering over them, imagine how it will be when the war is over and the spoils need to be divided.

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hopefully I won't piss to many people of this time.

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Name:Litron AKA Shade
Age:27
Gender: Male
Height: 6'
Weight:180
Magic: Yes has low level training in healing and battle and low moderate scying, unlock, and various spells related to spying/stealth/ assination
Skills:Extremly skilled in assisation, dagger use, stealth,tracking, and investigating Moderatly good with a wide range of weapons, lockpicking
Occupation:Mercanary/assisan/spy/
Small Bio: Shade is a very mysterious person the few people who knew his real name are now dead. He now does high risk jobs for a price. His family was decimated by loan sharks early in his childhood. He was forced to fend for himself forcing him into a life of crime where he evently came to be one the most feared assiasins in the land. He is known only as The shade

He has long been payed by wealthy mages and politicians to find and steal valuable magic research and artifacts, assinate and/or intimadte political enemies.

A groupd of wealthy mages have payed him an unprecedents sum of money to discover to cause of the drain on magic with the promise of much power if he succeds in stoping the drain.

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That said is it possible to play through the GF3 without being loyal to either side and get a half decent ending. I played through and killed everything once ,shaper, Rebel, Shrubbery',ect. If it wasn't me I killed it. For some reason I keeped getting the shaper ending.

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Yes I like to see a powerful geneforge in G5 one that is even more powerful then the first one. One that the pc can use. Prehaps made by the shapers to counter the unbounds. Or made by a rouge group of shapers who use the war as opportunity to seize control. Mabey its an attempt for the human/servile rebellion to make them selfs equals with the drakons again. However it should be introduce.

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It's a rare delicassy to be savored, not something you have every week.
I never said I have it every week. I have just grown out of pizza, thats it.

Their are some weeks when I have pizza every day.

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Anyways, who thinks the rebels are going to split into two different factions? Who thinks the shapers will split? I think its funny too that the attention has been drawn away from the serviles. Oh, and who actually likes the drakons? I don't find them all that useful to create. And the characters that are drakons are beyond annoying.

The only problem with the rebels splitting is that the human faction has been virtually destroyed. Even if you have the best possible rebel ending their isn't much left of the human side of the rebellion.

Its almost as if the drakons stood by and let the humans get destroyed so they wouldn't have to share the power. After the Ashen isles and initial invasion what did the drakons do?

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If you can eat a entire large Chicago deep dish pizza with throwing up any of it your just not human.

Me and about 6 of my friends where in Chicago about 3 years ago at a robotics competition. After a long day working on the robot and little to eat my robotics coach decided to go to a fancy place pizza parlor that specialized in Chicago deep dish pizzas. In total their where eight of us and we decided to order three large deep dish pizzas and let everyone have three slices. Out of me and all my friends I was the only one with out a take home box. Most of my friends manage to only eat one slice. (some of those same friends where in track or American foot ball) Those same friends were surprised to see me snacking on some chips latter. The best thing about the meal was the bill was paid by the school.

Those years I had a very large appetite and could eat much and my parents could barely afford to feed me.

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Its not the rebels because the trakovites does same thing but with both sides more evenly match. Its also much hard for a lone shaper/life crafter to make a difference with a bunch of insanely powerful monsters running a muck.I personally prefer the shapers but Its probably not the shaper's ending because that ending doesn't leave enough options (unless Jeff gets really creative). In my opinion I think the order of the from most likely end of GF4 to be incorporated into GF5 is:
1 Trakovite
2 Drakon
3 Shapers

Although I won't rule out completely Jeff tweaking the ending a bit.

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