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What continent do you live on? (in which the voices take over) in General
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quote:
Originally written by Ford Prefect:

I definitely got deaf to the voices (or blind to the thread), but why Salmon started talking about the movies?
That is a very good question. I'm sure you will get an answer. My hypothesis is that it was topical.

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Originally written by Kelandon:

Well, I'm at least pretty sure that Salmon is losing.


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Viva Italia !!!!!!! in General
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Let's not get all crazy with posting in this thread now. Remember that soccer/futbol is a game of patience, and the Cup lasts a solid month, and that this thread will remain open for comment and commentary the whole time. No need to beat the rush. Really.

Will US make it to the round of 16? I think not, they face too large of a challenge from the Group of Death. Certainly they will win 1 game, maybe get a tie, but they will lose the third game, giving them 3 points (Opponents getting 2,3,4 points) but this no big goal scorers they will lose the tiebreaker (Total goals scored) Your thoughts?

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Originally written by Kelandon:

Well, I'm at least pretty sure that Salmon is losing.


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Polaris returns! in General
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What happened? Something went down? Why wasn't I informed??

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Originally written by Kelandon:

Well, I'm at least pretty sure that Salmon is losing.


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Xylgham udwlnit skretcko!1!! in General
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has the tHinf selected its next victim yet? (Topical)

Happy 6-6-6 day!!! (Meaningless spam)

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Originally written by Kelandon:

Well, I'm at least pretty sure that Salmon is losing.


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Nethergate Problem in Tech Support
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You could try tossing some old silverware into the CPU case. That tends to slow things down a bit. Or switch back to Windows 2000, it runs all the good stuff and is cheap on auction sites.

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Originally written by Kelandon:

Well, I'm at least pretty sure that Salmon is losing.


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Red Rain in India in General
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Originally written by Cairo Jim:

Could be some sorta of freak nuclear incident thats starting to mutate things, next thing you now we will discover 3 eyed fish walking the streets of Delhi.
What do you find odd about a three eyed fishing walking down a Delhi street? I mean really, haven't you seen three eyed fish before? Do you need to stare at any old thing that looks the slightest bit different? You ought to be ashamed.

Tsk.

Oh, you probably meant the walking bit. I agree, unless the fish was looking for exercise, since most three eyed fish are wealthy and would tend to prefer taking a cab in order to avoid being stared at by people like you!!!

:P

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Originally written by Kelandon:

Well, I'm at least pretty sure that Salmon is losing.


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What continent do you live on? (in which the voices take over) in General
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You are nuts.

Some Like it Hot is way funnier than Arsenic and Old Lace. It just isn't even close.

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Originally written by Kelandon:

Well, I'm at least pretty sure that Salmon is losing.


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Red Rain in India in General
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Theory - Newer, crappier chemical added to avgas creates chemtrails with reddish precipitate.

All the really cool stuff happens way far away from where I am. That sucks. I'll start etching messages in corn fields in preparation for the arrival of the overlords.

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Originally written by Kelandon:

Well, I'm at least pretty sure that Salmon is losing.


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Hiking in General
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I was about 11 years old, hiking and camping in the north woods of Ontario, about 5 hours north of Sudbury. We were about 3 days into the hike when we had to camp on a gentle granite slope. Around 4am I woke up because of the screaming next to me. It turns out there was a big rainstorm and it had flipped over the tent. My sleeping bag had rolled over my tent-mates, and with the combination of that and 4" of water in that side of the tent, he was a bit panicked.

From then on we didn't camp on bedrock, and made sure that we did a better job of tying down the various ropes and such that kept the tent functional. It was a fun trip, we did a round trip of around 300 miles, hiking and canoing.

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Originally written by Kelandon:

Well, I'm at least pretty sure that Salmon is losing.


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Originally written by Thuryl:

My eschatology is a little rusty, but as I recall, what that passage actually says is that one-third of the world's waters will turn to blood. We are not quite observing that yet.
It's almost time for tuna fishing.

We tend to attract quite a few sharks during the bloodletting.

Anyhow, just letting you know that I'm doing my part to hurry the Apocolypse.

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Originally written by Kelandon:

Well, I'm at least pretty sure that Salmon is losing.


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Hiking in General
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If you are worried about the real hike, you might grab a few friends and start hiking on a daily basis. Just a few miles, both up and down hill, and your feet and legs will begin to learn about the process. The marathon two day hike won't be all that bad if you've done that preperatory work.

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Originally written by Kelandon:

Well, I'm at least pretty sure that Salmon is losing.


Posts: 4114 | Registered: Monday, April 25 2005 07:00
What continent do you live on? (in which the voices take over) in General
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Profile #26
Most Oregonians believe that they live so far from the Federal capital that it may as well be the South Pole. Thusly, independent of Dmknoiygba, I admitted to being a resident of Antartica.

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Originally written by Kelandon:

Well, I'm at least pretty sure that Salmon is losing.


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My God can beat up your God! in General
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Odin is the name of the boat I fish. Regularly my life continues at the discretion of Odin. Old one eye is an easy fellow with whom to get along, so long as he receives regular blood sacrifices. I comply often.

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Originally written by Kelandon:

Well, I'm at least pretty sure that Salmon is losing.


Posts: 4114 | Registered: Monday, April 25 2005 07:00
Peer Review Process (was Evolution Stuff (was What is Religion, exactly?)) in General
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Profile #177
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Originally paraphrased from William Dembski:
Despite the overwhelming evidence to the contrary, and my overall lack of training and comprehension, I find it in my best financial interests to believe in, and promote, Intelligent Design.
Sorry, I had to paraphrase. The website was too long, but I highly recommend the section where I can order books to learn more.

Edit - Forgot to add my reference website.

[ Friday, June 02, 2006 18:53: Message edited by: Indifferent Salmon ]

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Originally written by Kelandon:

Well, I'm at least pretty sure that Salmon is losing.


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Peer Review Process (was Evolution Stuff (was What is Religion, exactly?)) in General
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Profile #148
With a flap of his wings,
the butterfly hastens the wind.


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Originally written by Kelandon:

Well, I'm at least pretty sure that Salmon is losing.


Posts: 4114 | Registered: Monday, April 25 2005 07:00
Peer Review Process (was Evolution Stuff (was What is Religion, exactly?)) in General
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Intraspecies and interspecies organ donation may suggest that life (simple, cellular life) is not complex. True, the human being is complex as it an amalgam of many organs, but each of those organs can be autonomous. If you are talking about human consciousness, that is a different thing and has long been the subject of philosophers, not evolutionary biologists.

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Originally written by Kelandon:

Well, I'm at least pretty sure that Salmon is losing.


Posts: 4114 | Registered: Monday, April 25 2005 07:00
Peer Review Process (was Evolution Stuff (was What is Religion, exactly?)) in General
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Originally written by The Creator:

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Originally written by Kelandon:

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Originally written by The Creator:

'Chaotic' systems, as I understand them, can be said to have complex behavior arising from (relatively) simple algorithims.
Complex behavior arising from relatively simple algorithms. How is this different from evolution, again?

It may not be, but we are looking for examples of organised (not just complex) structures arising without design. If there is not evidence of this happening, then surely we should be sceptical of any theory that says that it does.

Actually, now it sounds like you are looking for evidence of evolution without life, and then decrying evolution for lack of evidence.

Shame on you. :rolleyes:

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Originally written by Kelandon:

Well, I'm at least pretty sure that Salmon is losing.


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Profile #139
Q-bert was a cool arcade game.

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Originally written by Kelandon:

Well, I'm at least pretty sure that Salmon is losing.


Posts: 4114 | Registered: Monday, April 25 2005 07:00
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quote:
Originally written by Lt. Sullust:

A butterfly, specifically, the atmospheric state generated by the flapping of said butterfly's wings.
The same could be said for the origins of a discussion on evolution. It started with a keyboard clicking in Australia, and has spread across the entire globe. :P

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Originally written by Kelandon:

Well, I'm at least pretty sure that Salmon is losing.


Posts: 4114 | Registered: Monday, April 25 2005 07:00
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I suspect that you will also find specific information about a carbon structure if it has formed a diamond. For example, nearby mineral types, amount of pressure involved in the formation, etc. Likewise, ice is of many types, depending on the initial conditions. Information is all around us, and in many forms, if we choose to see it rather than discount it.

Darwin was never a marketeer of his theory of the origin of the species to the extent that certain present day individuals are marketing ID. That, in and of itself, is the bit that worries a lot of people. There may not be a lot of substance within the ID argument, but with the right Madison Avenue glitz it will be difficult to convince a lot of people otherwise.

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Originally written by Kelandon:

Well, I'm at least pretty sure that Salmon is losing.


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My God can beat up your God! in General
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Y'all can relax now. I got a phone call from my God saying that she had kicked the crap out of your Gods. Game over.

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Originally written by Kelandon:

Well, I'm at least pretty sure that Salmon is losing.


Posts: 4114 | Registered: Monday, April 25 2005 07:00
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quote:
Originally written by The Creator:

The examples given so far are of order rather than organisation.

For those of you who apparently didn't read my earlier posts:
“‘Organized’ systems are to be carefully distinguished from ‘ordered’ systems. Neither kind of system is ‘random,’ but whereas ordered systems are generated according to simple algorithms and therefore lack complexity, organized systems must be assembled element by element according to an external ‘wiring diagram’ with a high information content ... Organization, then, is functional complexity and carries information. It is non-random by design or by selection, rather than by the a priori necessity of crystallographic ‘order.’” [Jeffrey S. Wicken, The Generation of Complexity in Evolution: A Thermodynamic and Information-Theoretical Discussion, Journal of Theoretical Biology, Vol. 77 (April 1979), p. 349]

The folks at the National Hurricane Center in Florida will be ecstatic to hear that you have figured out hurricanes lack complexity. But then again, the author may just be changing conventional definitions to fit a hypothesis that requires it, by design.

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Originally written by Kelandon:

Well, I'm at least pretty sure that Salmon is losing.


Posts: 4114 | Registered: Monday, April 25 2005 07:00
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quote:
Originally written by The Creator:

You can ignore the complex mechanism part if you like. Just give me an example of organisation arising without the involvement of life or human design.

DeBeers.

Edit 1 - Ice.

Two separate examples that share a common theme.

Edit 2 - Hurricane.

Tornado.

Really, this is ridiculously easy. I'll have to stop before I start chuckling.

Edit 3 - The snowflake, although I wouldn't expect you to have firsthand knowledge of that little intricacy.

[ Thursday, June 01, 2006 16:54: Message edited by: Indifferent Salmon ]

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Originally written by Kelandon:

Well, I'm at least pretty sure that Salmon is losing.


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Originally written by Dikiyoba:

Originally by The Creator:

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But photosynthesis requires a complex mechanism (clorophyl {sp?} and a cell capable of utilizing it) which was my argument.
Chlorophyll.

Dikiyoba.

Chloroplasts do the work (they are organelles) and chlorophyll is a pigment that facilitates the switch from light energy (photon) to chemical energy (in ATP and NADPH). I guess I don't see it as particularly complex, 6 CO2 + 12 H2O + ATP + NADPH -> C6H12O6 + 6 O2 + 6 H2O is a sample transaction that takes place in only two steps.

Perhaps Thuryl, stareye, or SoT could give you some examples that fix the definition of complex more closely, while staying clear of the unknown or unclear.

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Originally written by Kelandon:

Well, I'm at least pretty sure that Salmon is losing.


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The wonderful thing evolution is that you can predict it and then watch and see it happen. I've yet to sit back and see Intelligent Design happen. If there truly was divine guidance in the construction of all known (past and present and future), I will be so bold as to suggest that Intelligent gives far more credit than is due. And that is a big If.

:D

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Originally written by Kelandon:

Well, I'm at least pretty sure that Salmon is losing.


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