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Native Americans in General
Warrior
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Profile #20
I think I have found the problem in this argument I'm only talking about where I live.
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Compared to African Americans and Hispanics, Native Americans are by and large forgotten about in the US as a whole. Perhaps silent is not the right word, unheard would be better.

In the US yes in oklahoma no.

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How many people can name at least two African American civil rights leaders? How many can name the equivalent for Native Americans?

I can't name two for either :P
But, yes blacks have made a big deal about it compared to indians.

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As far as what's been done relative to the atrocities (which pale in comparison to other minorities), it has been pathetically small. Not saying absolutely nothing, but comparatively nothing.

Yes again for the US no again for oklahoma(I'm not saying that they are as bad as other races(I hate that term) it's just that they getting alot.

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Also, saying their privledged really is sort of insulting considering that statistics put their average economic status well below all other ethnic groups in the US.
Ok I maybe shouldn't have put such emphises on privledged. But, I was just trying to point out that they aren't doing bad here.

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Face it, we destroyed them and have done very little to get them up to the level as everyone else.
Has any other nation given another nation it's own nation when they conquered them? Oh and by the way there up to the level here. :) (I am 1/32 indian myself)

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Native Americans in General
Warrior
Member # 7067
Profile #17
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If somebody says something you disagree with, and you assert a different opinion, the conversation is moved forward dramatically when you explain and support your assertions. Asserting without explanation is not helpful.
I'll assume this is directed at me. (As your post had me confused there for awhile.) Explaining what I was saying would cause people who disagree with me to post something against it. And I would reply but, unfortiantly I do not feel like typing alot today neither do I have the time for it. However, I'll try to explain what I was saying, so here it goes.
The indians around here are recieving large amounts of money from the government also they have their own "nation" and do not have to pay taxes......
The list could go on for awhile so I'll stop it here. Oh and one more thing there are alot of people saying that we should give them more stuff.
True, most of them that I've met don't really care and are very nice people.

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Native Americans in General
Warrior
Member # 7067
Profile #15
"Definitely one of America's worst moments. Native Americans,"

Yes, at that time.

"the silent and worst-off minority because we largely wiped them out"

We were wrong at the start by killing them. But, silent? I don't think so.

"we have done little for them since."

Do you live in oklahoma? No, wait you live in washington. But here, indians are a VERY privalidged group.

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Xylgham udwlnit skretcko!1!! in General
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Profile #128
"Dikiyoba, I would apreciate if you had me join the spiderwebbers on the scripts."

"I did something sort of like that."

Yes I'm in the scipt! Wait, "sort of like that" something sounds fishy here...

When I read your script I was very inpressed until... it came to the geneforge series. Maybe next time you can have the spidderwebbers use a script editer? (I know their are good ones out here I've used some myself.)

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Avernum V in Avernum 4
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Member # 7067
Profile #276
"The main problem with making it is that it'd have to be a very large scenario, and my free time is limited. I'd rather work on something smaller in scope than start something massive and maybe never finish it. Besides, I've already got one BoA scenario in the works."

I don't think it would have to be massive. Just have most of it flooded and maybe add a new cave?
Oh, and whats your new BoA scenario?

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A Few Advance Notes On Geneforge 4 in Geneforge Series
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Profile #242
"Are those slight variations the corruption of language over time? Are the vahnatai the carnister-twisted, super-mutated, crystallinised remnants of humans from the archaic shaper civillisation in which we are some young apprentices?"

Many people have thought of this before. (look at the Avenum 4 forum) Personaly I think they did not want to take canisters so they developed some sort of christal thing that would change them. (It might be wearing off with time, the A4 vahnatai seemed to be gaining weight.)

"drake - drayk
dragon - drakon
gazer - gazer
eyebeast - eyebeast
vahnatai shaper - shaper"

Yes, this is true (probably because the same person made them up)but, look there are others out there.

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Question 3: Disease in General
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Member # 7067
Profile #4
Just have bunches of vaccines ready to be made so when a epidemic happens we just have to get a sample then quickly finish the vaccines. So we could be ready when the epidemic hits us.

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If You Were President... in General
Warrior
Member # 7067
Profile #30
I don't have much time so here it goes.

"I agree that some overhauls are necessary, but fewer than you might think. Schools are defined by their students, and urban youth have already suffered far too much at the hands of affluent caucasians at that point to accurately "develop/test their merit."

You seem to forget something. When America's schools where among the best was when they were run by the local community.

"And urban public schools do NOT have enough funding, even if there are problems with the spending.'

Why don't you try spending how much money they have. Then, suddenly you would start feeling rich.

"...thank you, Malthus. News flash: These people are already having kids, and the way things stand, they are almost guaranteed to die of starvation, nevermind live to any decent age before doing so.
Self-sufficiency will be a convenient thing, but it's not the be-all and end-all. I reserve that for preventing the millions upon millions of deaths that we in the civilized world sorta just spit on."

I would like to see proficciant way of getting money to them.

"Eating up a lot of resources? What, you mean those $200 cans of soda that KBR officials sip on in the walled-off Green Zone of Baghdad?
The costs of Iraq are so massively inflated that it's not even funny. Even if we kept on using the same stuff, we'd do it for a lot less if we didn't go through the most bald-facedly evil cads on the face of the planet to get it."

Somehow I must have missed this one's point....

Wo-ho-hoah, racism.

I wasn't thinking of kicking out Asian-Americans. I was thinking of kicking out Whites. (Or heaven forbid, increase spending and add more seats.)

Your a racist?
What they should do is make everybody equal. this is what I was trying to say in my last post. Oh, and by the way I am not a racist I know pretty well almost any black that is close to us and we've met.

You know, I went to a private school, and one time in class, Affirmative Action was brought up. And I swear, I was the only person in that room who was in favor of it.

YOU SHOULD HAVE SEEN how those people all turned around me and the teacher like fricking vultures. These rich, white, male, privately-educated pricks honestly had the balls to claim that they were being persecuted against. Because, you know, all these dangerous black men are coming to take their Ivy League seats.

"My opinion is that white folks should get the **** over themselves. Now. Affirmative Action isn't discrimination. Rendering African-Americans as a permanently unskilled class through a combination of inequitable "free market" job hirings and an educational system that favors the rich is discrimination."

Another anti-white racist....
IF everybody would give everybody a chance to prove he was the best person for the job then your argument would not make sence. But, there WILL ALWAYS be racists either against whites or against black or asians.

The next argument I ommitted since where I live there is only one class anybody has any problem with and that one does have some issues to solve. But, on the whole I like where I live.
EDIT: Sent before I had finished.

"Property tax. Unless the rich want to live in Mexico.
Anyway, your reasoning is: "Don't tax the rich because they'll just get out of it, tax the poor because they're dumbasses?" Or are you saying tha there's some miracle value at which the rich actually accept taxes? The rich will ALWAYS try to evade. It's our job to corner them by any means necessary, chain them to a wall, cut open their insides and send power drills through their eyes."

I am against this completely.

that is all I can wright right now finish it later.

[ Thursday, May 04, 2006 04:47: Message edited by: Major ]

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If You Were President... in General
Warrior
Member # 7067
Profile #16
Increasing federal spending for public education: I disagree we are already spending well over $25,000 a year on every child in the United States. The problem is that we are spending that money wrong.

"$5,000? And that's it? I assume you are unfamiliar with a private education's tuition. And okay, I know from personal experience that public educational institutions tend to be corrupt and wasteful, but at the end of the day, a public student at only $5,000 cannot help but be behind a private student whose worth might even approach $20,000, and is guaranteed to be at least 2-3 times as high as a public student's."

Sorry I missed a 2 there.

Massive increases of foreign aid to stave off starvation and easily-preventable diseases: I disagree here to that is not the government’s job but, I would encourage charities to do so.

"So wait, you AGREE that something should be done, and yet you don't think that a government, given a choice, should do it? Are you saying that people should have a choice NOT to eliminate starvation?"

I think you hit my point. Think about more and you might find out what I was trying to say.

Repealing Welfare-2-Work and replacing it with a social net capable of catching something smaller than a barn: I'm not sure exactly what you are saying here but, I think that welfare should be taken off the governments hands. Though they should still provide work for anybody that wants it, such as building parks.....

"Do you know what Welfare to Work is? We've ALREADY privatized welfare."

I think I'm not sure about this anymore (not that I don't know what I would do but, that I'm not sure where you stand) due mainly to you expertly confusing me. Partly also because I've misspell more words today than I have in the last year. (And just generally messing up)

Strengthening Affirmative Action to solve the massive unemployment rate of urban blacks (and males in particular): I think this is more of the individuals problem if they want a job they get a degree that proves that they are the best person for the job, or get a job with the government. (As suggested above)

"You know, you're right. It's a black man's fault if his skin color immediately identifies him as a lazy bum to all employers. He, given massively disparate circumstances economically, should also bear the noble burden of also being hated when trying to land a job."

But, he still can establish himself a good character to make getting a job easier.

Nuclear disarmament: positively NO

"You're right. Because unless we can destroy THE ENTIRE SURFACE OF THE PLANET TEN TIMES AROUND, we cannot truly be safe."

Somehow I feel this is sarcasm. No that is not the reason why. IF everybody would give up their nuclear weapons I would agree however, unfortunately somebody would not thus blowing up the world ten times around.

Recognition of labor unions: No, but maybe recognition of unorganized labor unions. For example all most people want is more money thus costing the companies more and either putting them out of business or sending them over seas.

"More money, yes. Also, fewer hours, more flexible hours, maternity/paternity leave without losing one's position, etc.
America has an advantage (or, I suppose, it honestly SHOULD and has no feasible reason NOT to), and that is skilled laborers. You cannot outsource carpenters, professors, lawyers, electricians or engineers. Or, okay-- maybe you can outsource them, but only to other first-world countries. And yeah, this HAPPENS, but that'd be INTENSELY easy to rectify."

No, because if our economy moves then our whole country moves.

"(Of course, by guaranteeing that African-Americans cannot under any circumstances obtain a quality education, we've managed to create a distinctly unskilled class, but that's also a problem that can be solved by doing ANYTHING other than blaming the black community for its own failures.)"

No, I never said that they could not get degrees in fact; I was encouraging them to do so.

Disestablishing religion: Never, when this country does this I promise you IT WILL FALL!

"Well, I give you props for not taking that as sarcasm.
But, well... I'm not quite sure what good is done by placing political power into mega churches and televangelists does for ANYONE. (And most of these megachristians are outright evil for many reasons other than the stranglehold they've been exerting on the rest of us.)"

You are absolutely right these megachristians are not what I call a constructive religion these guys don't even believe their own book!

I hope this explains any problems we have with each other. Well that's all for tonight! (Due to me being wanted elsewhere)

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[ Wednesday, May 03, 2006 17:17: Message edited by: Major ]

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Stereotypically Yours in General
Warrior
Member # 7067
Profile #90
I thought there was multiple Dikiyobas or am I wrong. :confused: (ok, I did mess up, kindof) Besides Dikiyoba doesn't seem to sure.(the other one)

"t anyone that says they can do it - pics please." Sorry due to my strange paranoia of having my pic on the web I decided to save myself from the nightmirrers that would surely come if I did. But, I can do it!

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If You Were President... in General
Warrior
Member # 7067
Profile #13
ncreasing federal spending for public education:I disagree we are already spending well over $5,000 a year on every child in the united states. The problem is that we are spending that money wrong.
Massive increases of foreign aid to stave off starvation and easily-preventable diseases: I disagree here to that is not the goverments job but, I would encourage chariatys to do so.
Repealing Welfare-2-Work and replacing it with a social net capable of catching something smaller than a barn: I'm not sure exactaly what you are saying here but, I think that welfare should be taken off the governments hands. Though they should still provide work for anybody that wants it, such as building parks.....
Strengthening Affirmative Action to solve the massive unemployment rate of urban blacks (and males in particular): I think this is more of the indiviuals problem if they want a job they get a degree that proves that they are the best person for the job, or get a job with the government. (as suggested above)
Increased public transportation spending to allow said urban African-Americans to reach their jobs: Agreed.
Massive tax hikes for the rich: Maybe not massive but, yes a tax increase.
Nuclear disarmament: positivily NO
Nuclear power. Increase of minimum wage to a liveable minimum: Agreed.
Socialized health care: somewhat but, I will discuss this later.
Recognition of labor unions: No, but maybe recognition of unorganised labor unions. For example all most people want is more money thus costing the companies more and either putting them out of businuss or sending them over seas.
Disestablishing religion: Never, when this country does this I promise you IT WILL FALL!
Prohibiting corporations from hiring children abroad and forcing globalized corporations to pay a minimum wage for all workers abroad: Agreed if I'm thinking about global companies.

Yes, I get the idea you would become a dictater.
I think :confused:

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A Few More Advance Words On Geneforge 4 in Geneforge Series
Warrior
Member # 7067
Profile #104
I agree with you. that gets annoying quick, I understand having only 7 creations. But if Jeff would make it so were you could have 7 different creations that would be awsome. Just think you could have your starting fyora and a cryoa.... well.... you get the point. (I hope)

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Stereotypically Yours in General
Warrior
Member # 7067
Profile #87
Reading Dikiyobas post gave me the feeling that Dikiyoba tried to touch Dikiyobas elbow.

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A Few More Advance Words On Geneforge 4 in Geneforge Series
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Profile #102
I'll assume your talking about guardians. You could put enough ingreidiants to make wands more useful.
But, personaly I use a melee-diplomat-mechanechs guardian and I never had much trouble dying. Yes I do die, some.
On a side note however, Delicious Vlish must enjoy his new size of post count.
The other side note :) is that I have great hopes for the new addition to the geneforge series.

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A Few More Advance Words On Geneforge 4 in Geneforge Series
Warrior
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Profile #96
I don't think that he meant that the serviles would be the shaper class (such as that they are high on shaping) but, that they will be able to shape, some, like a agent. Able to but not good at it.
Still it's just a thought.

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A Few More Advance Words On Geneforge 4 in Geneforge Series
Warrior
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Profile #78
As for batons having 2 to 3 shots is a great idea.
You could have fast batons and speed batons which hit either 2 or 3 different targets.
And making creations more powerful.
Then, whalla, you got approx. the same strength
in combat.

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A Few More Advance Words On Geneforge 4 in Geneforge Series
Warrior
Member # 7067
Profile #66
How would getting the first shot help if daze, dominate, and other mental spells wouldn't work on high level things. :confused:
for example:
I walk up to a high level monster I shoot, then he blows me to kingdom come.
next example:
I walk up to a low level monster I shoot, then he's dead.
the last example:
I walk up to medium level monster I shoot, then we have a long drawn out battle in which I win, but, it was a very close battle and I only won because I shot first.
But, I could do the same with a shaper or a guardian.
for example2:
I walk up to a high level monster he shoots,
and I'm blown to kingdom come.
next example2:
I walk up to a low level monster he shoots, and misses then I do and he's dead.
the last example:
I walk up to medium level monster he shoots, then we have a long drawn out battle in which he wins, but, it was a very close battle and he only won because he shot first.
But, the same would happen with a shaper or a guardian.
Just a thought.

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Xylgham udwlnit skretcko!1!! in General
Warrior
Member # 7067
Profile #110
Dikiyoba, I would apreciate if you had me join the spiderwebbers on the scripts. (it shouldn't be that hard to make me come in like the other people that have joined)
I also wanted to say that I have enjoyed it so far.
Thankyou for your work, in advance.

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A Few More Advance Words On Geneforge 4 in Geneforge Series
Warrior
Member # 7067
Profile #61
What I was trying to say was: Just make the agents weaker.
Not magic in genaral.
Such as giving them less hitpoints and a few less energy points.....
Also giving guardians and creations more power.

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A Few More Advance Words On Geneforge 4 in Geneforge Series
Warrior
Member # 7067
Profile #45
I don't think that changing the strength of Dominate
would solve the problem. I think the answer would be in weakening the strength of the actual agent.
And maybe increasing the power of guardians and shapers? Or whatever classes are in Geneforge 4.

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A Few Advance Notes On Geneforge 4 in Geneforge Series
Warrior
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Profile #230
"A servile as a starting character" Reading this again brought this to mind.
IMAGE(http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h308/Silentinspace/AC.jpg)
(This image is not against being a servile in geneforge 4 it was just what came to my mind.)

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International Imitation Day in General
Warrior
Member # 7067
Profile #21
IMAGE(http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h308/Silentinspace/AA.jpg)
[(OOC)Thankyou to everyone why helped me get this picture online]

[ Wednesday, April 26, 2006 17:39: Message edited by: Major ]

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change shaper graphics? in Geneforge Series
Warrior
Member # 7067
Profile #23
"The graphics template number has 1 or 2 added to it when carrying weapons I believe, hence the gazer/eyebeast" Yes, that is one of the disadvantages of being something else
Dolphin. artificial orange explained that :)
so I don't have to! ( I referred to this in my first post.)
"More on topic, changes of graphics can be fun at first, but really lose their coolness factor after a while. Of course, if you are easily entertained, have fun!" Yes, that is why I don't have drakon graphics on all the time.

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What style of graphics would you like to see in Avernum 5? in General
Warrior
Member # 7067
Profile #13
I'll have to go with Alorael in this one. but,with
Dolphin. in the Guardian, Agent, and Shaper thing.
So I guess I'm in a minority here? :(

(Maybe I'll kill this thread to?)
I guess I didn't.

[ Wednesday, April 26, 2006 09:02: Message edited by: Major ]

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Stereotypically Yours in General
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Member # 7067
Profile #65
I thought about this one for a while so I might just be right.
I think (as stated above)that the only possible stereotype you could give me. Would be that I like to change geneforge scripts.
Or am I mistaken?

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