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Wow (G4) in Geneforge 4: Rebellion
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Profile #154
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And kill every Rebel?
I had to go through this question myself before I joined the shapers. Some, them that force you too. How would I do this? (Please note, you can't do this in the game.) Give the drakons a choice. Either they go into hiding or retreat to some remote place. While I go to the council with a plan-compromise, and "convince" the council to except.

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Wow (G4) in Geneforge 4: Rebellion
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Profile #152
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What do you call the current situation if not war? Don't forget, the Shaper empire produced the rebels in the first place; what makes you think they won't keep on producing more?
Yes, I do call it war. When did I say it wasn't?
Yes, they did produce the rebels. But, it was because of bad management of a situation. Which wouldn't happen again. If you doubt me play the whole game with Alwan.
Also, don't think I agree with the shapers on everything. Because I do disagree with them on allot of things. But killing every shaper is not the solution. So I'm forced too go with the shapers.

[ Tuesday, July 11, 2006 06:18: Message edited by: Major ]

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Wow (G4) in Geneforge 4: Rebellion
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Profile #144
I was talking about long term. I couldn't "tell" you which faction would come uppermost. But, I'll give you a more accurate idea of what I think would happen in the long term if the rebels won. Basically countries would emerge each with their own flaws and good points. But, they would still war with each other.
However, what would the shapers do? Well, if they won the war they would increase the rights of creations. Keep a closer watch on all magic users. And they would hopefully try to decrease they’re haughtiness to outsiders. Of course with the help of my character.
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Wow (G4) in Geneforge 4: Rebellion
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Profile #140
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But they weren't, and it did. That's the whole point, isn't it? Is responding after the fact to individual incidents of misuse of power really good enough, when those incidents keep happening?

Step back and look. If you wanted to practice some illegal magic would you do it in a big city or some place that's out of the way. So you won't get questioned?
When you think about it that way suddenly your looking at a much larger space for some one to want to do something illegal.
But the main question is that would the rebels do any better? I think not. For a simple reason. It would be a broken up place.
Eyebeasts and gazors revolting against the drakons. Greedy drakons taxing people too desolation which cause the shapers to grow by making them think that it was better under them with no large wars. Drayks and serviles seperating from the drakons upset because of oppression. Besides any petty quarrels that would arise.
So, who would put down the few necromancers?

[ Sunday, July 09, 2006 13:58: Message edited by: Major ]

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Wow (G4) in Geneforge 4: Rebellion
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Profile #134
quote:
There was Tek on Sucia Island, trying to become immortal as a shade.
Yes but they were still reatively still new to magic.

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There was Sharon in G2.
That was one isolated person. In anyplace there's going to be a few who want more freedom enough to go into hiding.

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and that necromancer dude on the second island.
He was a mage, not a shaper. Actually if they had been more strict with magic that wouldn't have happened.

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and that guy with the runed serviles,
He was one of many other mages at a complex. All the others died instead of taking that magic.
Perhaps you can see that I'm a loyalist.

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Wow (G4) in Geneforge 4: Rebellion
Warrior
Member # 7067
Profile #97
Well, I was just thinking that there could actually be ingame reason for it. Such as that most people would send there children away from where the fighting's going on. Like on some neutral island where there are no shapers and rebels wouldn't then unleash horrors on them. or possibly just in some isolated hut, who knows?
Either that all children go to schools and actually board there.I couldn't say, of course the real reason we don't see children much is because of the out of the game reasons.
Now, my thoughts on the graphics of children. Couldn't you just shrink the actual graphics? And then on humans (and certian other one's) you could shrink them then slightly modify them to look more like children.

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"You took awhile to post again. Maybe it was that last knock I gave you?"-The person behind me.
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Are you now or have you ever been ... in General
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Member # 7067
Profile #24
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Your assessment has no merit.
Could you at least say why, where, and try to at least show me that I'm wrong?

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"I knocked him out, but I managed to hit the reply button before he fell down."-The person behind him.
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Are you now or have you ever been ... in General
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Member # 7067
Profile #22
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Alorael, who is amused by Major's comments in light of his debating performance on Spiderweb.
I can see how you can say that. However that is because I would get massively out posted. (I don't think you understand how much of a help it is in a debate to immediately answer while he has to wait 10 hours too. And of course by that time they have posted about ten-twenty times.) I can't answer that many posts. (Besides half of them being uh, well, let's just say, pointless?)

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"I knocked him out, but I managed to hit the reply button before he fell down."-The person behind him.
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Holidays in General
Warrior
Member # 7067
Profile #7
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Anyway, I will probably be staying here during my vacation. I will use the time to relax and catch up on some reading. It will be a most enjoyable week.
For you. I'll stay home and work. Switch?

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"I knocked him out, but I managed to hit the reply button before he fell down."-The person behind him.
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Are you now or have you ever been ... in General
Warrior
Member # 7067
Profile #1
No, I haven't. But any debate I've gotten into with my friends, I normally come out on top.

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"I am. **Wham!** Told you so.-The person behind him.

[ Tuesday, June 20, 2006 08:35: Message edited by: Major ]
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Dinosaurs Are Alive in General
Warrior
Member # 7067
Profile #37
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As a kid I had a big coffee table book which argued that dragons had really existed, in the form of reptiles adapted to flying by generating internal hydrogen to become lighter than air. This would also allow them to expel flammable gas, which they could supposedly ignite. Since they would thus have been scarey as hell, but fragile as blimps, they were quickly exterminated by humans. But not before a few legends began. No dragon fossils have been found, because their acidic internal chemistry dissolved all their bones upon death. Fun book.
It's possible that they actually found dragons. Or we could say they just found dinosaurs.
Maybe they just made up the flame part? Or was there a dinosaur that breathed fire?

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"Flames? Just what I want"-The person with a new flamethrower.
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I'm off the list! in General
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Member # 7067
Profile #3
18 down on the list. Not bad.

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Dinosaurs Are Alive in General
Warrior
Member # 7067
Profile #18
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No, it was just some people playing a prank. Like the crop circles.
Yep, alot of people played pranks about seeing the lockness monster. But that was not what I was thinking about. I was thinking about the group of scientists who scanned the lake and found a large fuzzy thing turn up on the screen.

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Dinosaurs Are Alive in General
Warrior
Member # 7067
Profile #16
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That was actually an elephant. It escaped from a nearby circus or something that was holding that same elephant nearby the lake.
Yea, it was fuzzy and it swam under water. Must of been evolving into a fish!

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Dinosaurs Are Alive in General
Warrior
Member # 7067
Profile #13
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There isn't enough space anywhere in the world to hide a T-rex.
Hehe, I could almost hide one in my backyard. However do you know what I'm talking about? The place I'm talking about?

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Dinosaurs Are Alive in General
Warrior
Member # 7067
Profile #10
Um, I think a dinosaur is still a dinosaur even if it the size of a chicken. Finding any type of a dinosaur would be exciting.
As for unexplored places there are large tracks of jungles in Africa that haven't been explored that are large enough to hide large dinosaurs. Dikiyoba briefly joked about some sightings by the natives about a large dinosaur looking thing in that area.

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Dinosaurs Are Alive in General
Warrior
Member # 7067
Profile #7
I think it's very possible that some dinosaurs are still alive. The examples that he showed were animals supposed to be extinct, by using the same logic as is used to suppose that dinosaurs are extinct.
So if these were found to be alive why couldn't a dinosaur be alive in some unexplored place. (There are places yet to be explored.)

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"Yes, there are dinosaurs alive. The proof? I'm one!"-The dinosaur behind me.

[ Thursday, June 15, 2006 09:22: Message edited by: Major ]
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The pinnacle of perfection? in Geneforge Series
Warrior
Member # 7067
Profile #13
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Maybe Shaper robes are super-durable, and repel scavengers.

Yes, they are highly blessed with magic that makes them last, uh, well, forever?

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"I knocked him out, but I managed to hit the reply button before he fell down."-The person behind him.
Posts: 153 | Registered: Monday, April 24 2006 07:00
Alwan and Greta questions in Geneforge Series
Warrior
Member # 7067
Profile #49
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Isn't that a bit to powerful to start with though? Seriously... Even on torment to justify this sort of thing, an acid baton would make seriously short work of the starting areas.

You missed the part where I said "later" didn't you. And later means some where on the second, late first, or on the early third island.
And I'll try to find some multi attack for him, but wish me luck!

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Alwan and Greta questions in Geneforge Series
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Member # 7067
Profile #42
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You posted the information but completely failed to say what it would do.

Good point.
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Mind filling us in?

Nope, it gives Alwan an acid baton.

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Alwan and Greta questions in Geneforge Series
Warrior
Member # 7067
Profile #40
Well, later you can change it to this:
begindefinecreature 5;
cr_name = "Alwan";
cr_base_level = 4;
cr_graphic_coloradj =5;
cr_regen_rate = 0;

cr_abil_num 1 = -1;
cr_abil_level 0 = 5;
cr_abil_num 1 = 54; // baton
cr_abil_level 1 = 4;
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radix is Infernal. And, where are the Twin Minds? All I ever did was kill the spawners.

Ah, I wondered what happend to Infernal. And I knew that radix use to have a different name. I guess I just didn't put two and two together.

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"Beware, do not post again or you'll feel the same throbing feeling in the back of your head."-The person with a blackjack.

[ Monday, June 12, 2006 10:41: Message edited by: Major ]
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Alwan and Greta questions in Geneforge Series
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Member # 7067
Profile #36
This on the road going up to the testing grounds:
text1 = "Greta looks around, slightly in a daze. _I had never thought I would ever travel along the road to the Testing Grounds. When I was still in the school, I had nightmares about it._"; text2 = "Alwan says, _You don't deserve to go to the Testing Grounds. Scary or not, it is a secret place. Shapers only._"; text3 = "Greta frowns. _This is a time of crisis. I may prove to be a Shaper yet. I was not thrown out for lack of skill, but because of my principles. Remember that._";
This is at the testing grounds:
text5 = "Alwan looks troubled. _I wish we had come here with the blessing of a Master. Every Shaper can choose for him or herself when to come. But I wish we were not so alone._";
text6 = "Greta says, _I truly never thought I would come here. But I will subject myself to the ordeal if I can. I wish to fight against the monsters, whether the Shapers approve or not._";
text7 = "Alwan snorts. _The Shapers threw you out. You should not be here at all._ Greta ignores him.";

Inner mines:
text5 = "What you are seeing is unthinkable. It is a creation making a creation. Giving a creation the ability to shape is one of the worst and most irresponsible acts a Shaper can do. It is a crime against the balance of the natural world."; text6 = "Alwan looks shocked. _Shaper, a rogue like this, with the ability to spread and make new rogues, it must be destroyed! Can we kill it now? Please?_"; text7 = "Greta turns to you. She has a strange look on her face, as if she places part of the blame for this horror on you, or at least on the Shapers. Then she places her hand on her blade and watches the creature carefully, looking for a weak spot.";
This is where you pick up Diwaniya’s creations, And the entrance to the twin minds. I think.
text3 = "Greta says, _This isn't right. These lands aren't right. Even I can feel it, Shaper or not. This place is diseased. It should be cleaned. By us, or the Shapers, or the rebels. By someone._"; text4 = "Alwan doesn't say anything nasty about Greta's remarks, for once. The two seem united in their discomfort. _She is right. This swamp must be cleansed. And, it seems, the job is falling to us._";
But this is what I like about Alwan:
text1 = "Alwan looks ill at ease. It is unusual, considering how confident he usually acts. _I just wanted to ... I didn't want you to think ... I ..._ He takes a deep breath."; text2 = "_I feel that I have been giving the impression that I am a mindless slave of the Shapers. That I never question anything our kind does. This is not true. I know that our rules and ways have to change, to evolve._"; text3 = "_I am not like her,_ he nods at Greta. _I am loyal. But I can still think._"; text4 = "_However, this is a time of crisis, of war. There are times to reevaluate our ways, but this isn't one of them. Now is the time to be strong, and sure._";
And this:
question = "That is wise. Shapers should try to only change our laws in tranquil times, when we can ponder what we are doing carefully."; text1 = "_It reassures me to hear you say that. Though, as a Guardian, I should think more on enforcing than judging the law, I still have to make decisions. I have to judge what is right._"; text2 = "_And that is especially true now, when nobody is watching or guiding us._";
Then this:
question = "But times of crisis are the times when we should most be looking for ways to change, to adapt."; text1 = "_I was afraid that you would say that. Perhaps you are calmer, stronger than me. But I am scared. I am not afraid of admitting it._"; text2 = "_It is taking all my strength and concentration to fight our enemies and try to find out what is happening. I do not have the energy to weigh my moral code at the same time._"; text3 = "_Guardians do not make laws. We enforce them. I wish I had a commander telling me what to do. But, this position is where I ended up. I will deal with it as best I can._";
Wow, what a long post. I’ll shorten my sig to make it shorter. I would have quoted Magma but you know… Thankyou radix malorum est cupiditas

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Alwan and Greta questions in Geneforge Series
Warrior
Member # 7067
Profile #32
Alwan is woth it. *cough* Just change "creature 5" with this:

begindefinecreature 5;
cr_name = "Alwan";
cr_base_level = 4;
cr_graphic_coloradj = 256;
cr_regen_rate = 3;

cr_abil_num 1 = -1;
cr_abil_level 0 = 5;
cr_abil_num 1 = 50; // thorns
cr_abil_level 1 = 4;

Nice isn't it?

(Did anyone noticed I was gone?)

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"I did! I couldn't post anything. So I'll post this, ha!"-The person behind him.
Posts: 153 | Registered: Monday, April 24 2006 07:00
Alwan and Greta questions in Geneforge Series
Warrior
Member # 7067
Profile #10
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Everything a Guardian can do an Agent or a Shaper can do better.
Be careful saying that... How about my melee squad leader?

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"I knocked him out, but I managed to hit the reply button before he fell down."-The person behind him.
Posts: 153 | Registered: Monday, April 24 2006 07:00
Slarty Does Spidweb in General
Warrior
Member # 7067
Profile #23
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I question your sanity.
Do not remind the fluffy turtles about this...

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