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Possibly the wrong forum but...... in Richard White Games
Shock Trooper
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Profile #11
Nioca, I think he/she already has the demo. Otherwise, how could he/she like the music?

Read Zeviz's post again - ask Jeff Vogel if you can order it.
Posts: 363 | Registered: Wednesday, February 22 2006 08:00
Possibly the wrong forum but...... in Richard White Games
Shock Trooper
Member # 6821
Profile #8
quote:
Originally written by Nija_Halycron:

I love the music for Homeland.

So how exactly could I get it? Could it be got from a site?

Someone once asked the same question on the Dragonlore boards, and Steven J. Morris replied :

"Unfortunately, the music had to be converted to a format called "stm" rather than straight midi, so you can't just pull it off the demo. I've got the original midis at home, but you should probably ask the author of the music if its ok to use it however you intend. I don't have his email address in front of me, but I'll send it to you when I get home tonight, and you can ask him yourself (its ok with me)."

That means that your best bet is to e-mail Steven J. Morris at sjmorris@dragonlore.com and ask him for a way to get in touch with Larry Mc Cormick. Note that you might not able to get the opening theme, as it was made by Justin S. Ohlander.
Oh, and you may want to ask Steven about the 'Wizards of Light' theme as well, as he made it himself.

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Posts: 363 | Registered: Wednesday, February 22 2006 08:00
Possibly the wrong forum but...... in Richard White Games
Shock Trooper
Member # 6821
Profile #4
By the way, should you ever get stuck or simply want to know where you can find a spell or some other stuff, you can send me a PM or an e-mail. As far as I know, I'm the only one on these boards who owns Homeland (and admits it, in any case).

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Posts: 363 | Registered: Wednesday, February 22 2006 08:00
Monarch: Who Is He? in Geneforge 4: Rebellion
Shock Trooper
Member # 6821
Profile #22
I don't think Monarch could be Trajkov - it wouldn't make any sense. You have to kill Trajkov to get the Shaper ending in G1, and the Shaper ending is the canon ending. Also, Trajkov would never become this crazy.

Monarch reminded me a lot of Spharon from G3 - technically it could be him, you don't have to kill him to finish the game. Even if he isn't Spharon, they are certainly alike.

Monarch could also be a random mad Shaper that you never met in the previous games, because Jeff felt like messing with our minds.

EDIT : "ening?" Gah. Fixed typo.

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Posts: 363 | Registered: Wednesday, February 22 2006 08:00
your favorite geneforge in Geneforge 4: Rebellion
Shock Trooper
Member # 6821
Profile #6
1. Geneforge 4.

In my opinion, definetely the best one out there. Best story (along with GF1), best gameplay by FAR (five classes, new inventory system, and so on), much better graphics, and the whole chapters thing turned out to be really good.

2. Geneforge 1.

I loved this one. I remember finding the story very original when I first played it. The gameplay was original and simple, and the gameplay balance, though not perfect, was pretty good as well.

3. Geneforge 3.

I felt this one was an improvement compared to GF2. Better gameplay balance, elemental attacks, new dungeon feature, crafting, more canister side-effects, and so on.
I sure wish Jeff Vogel had actually made it possible to make Ur-Drakons, but Icy End just doesn't have a drakon canister, as far as I know.

4. Geneforge 2.

Pretty good, but still the worst game in the series. Worst gameplay balance by far.

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Posts: 363 | Registered: Wednesday, February 22 2006 08:00
Why You Suck in General
Shock Trooper
Member # 6821
Profile #75
quote:
Originally written by Protocols of the Elders of Zion:

The most active topic on Desp is a roundtable on morality, theology, and ethics.[/URL] By contrast, the most active topics on Spiderweb are this and Episode 3 and the most active topics on Polaris are about old members, those welcoming them back, and those wishing them a happy birthday.

Tu quoque only even vaguely works when tu is quoque, Zeviz. :P

I do agree that Desp can get a lot smarter than Spiderweb when the members want it to, however you can't compare forums simply by looking at their respective "most active" topics. On a lot of forums the most active topics will be word-posting games and that kind of stuff, and that does not necessarily mean these forums are the epitome of silliness - in fact , they can even be forums about ethics and politics, believe it or not.
Posts: 363 | Registered: Wednesday, February 22 2006 08:00
Why You Suck in General
Shock Trooper
Member # 6821
Profile #38
quote:
Originally written by Zeviz:

What would happen if I came to Desperance and posted a thread "Why You Suck" which said "This place is just a cesspit of obscene images and old in-jokes"?
You know, that's nearly what I was about to write in my first to reply to Alec, but then I realised it would be hypocritical, because a few Desp jokes do manage to make me laugh now and then.

Anyway, Alec's point is that Spiderweb General doesn't really serve any truly useful/interesting purposes anymore (or at least, much less than before).
Desperance... isn't what it used to be, judging from Drakefyre's comments, but at least one aspect of its purpose is still satisfied. Heavily. :P
Posts: 363 | Registered: Wednesday, February 22 2006 08:00
Cheater! in General
Shock Trooper
Member # 6821
Profile #10
quote:
Originally written by Jewels:

I cheat all the time. Mostly because I'm not a great player but sometimes because I want to explore the game to it's limits.
Is this the reason why Redwall : Prologue has no combat whatsoever?
(Though maybe the next episode will/would have had combat, I wouldn't know).
Posts: 363 | Registered: Wednesday, February 22 2006 08:00
Cheater! in General
Shock Trooper
Member # 6821
Profile #1
Shouldn't this be in a Geneforge forum or is it about all of the Spiderweb games?

Anyway :

Avernum series - Geneforge series : I will sometimes replay the game with an über-party, made with my own editor if necessary, to see what I missed; but when I wish to complete a game, I will finish it legitimately (or at least try to).

SubTerra : Cheats can help when exploring a level, but they won't get you very far. I sometimes use them for very hard levels, then replay legitimately. I don't play SubTerra much nowadays, though.

Homeland : Cheating is nearly impossible (unless perhaps you're a master of Hex-editing), and can apparently result in major problems if you do decide to do it, so I never cheat.

Blades of Avernum : Only for scenarios that bore me. I tend to use Kelandon's HLPM when cheating.

Blades of Exile : Same thing. Also to replay some scenarios to see what I missed. I tend to use a God Party made with the Super Editor when I do cheat, but I should be able to Hex-edit it as well if necessary.

Nethergate : It's been some time since I last played it, and I was pretty thorough while exploring, so no need for cheats.

The Exile trilogy : Can't say I've really played it.

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Posts: 363 | Registered: Wednesday, February 22 2006 08:00
Rate Homeland : The Stone of Night in General
Shock Trooper
Member # 6821
Profile #39
Wow. How the heck did you manage to get killed by a scorpion while wielding the second-best weapon in the game? :P
Make sure the hand icon of your character isn't selected. Also, you might want to refrain from going berserk for now - try activating the "D" icon to lower the scorpions' hit rate. It will also lower your attack skills, but that shouldn't be much of a problem with Sandra's knife.
And by the way, Sandra's not dead - she's the Mysterious Woman in the inn. (But you're not supposed to know this until you've finished the first part of the game.)
Posts: 363 | Registered: Wednesday, February 22 2006 08:00
Why You Suck in General
Shock Trooper
Member # 6821
Profile #32
quote:
Originally written by Protocols of the Elders of Zion:

quote:
Originally written by The Lurker:

quote:
Originally written by Protocols of the Elders of Zion:



Critical differences are at work here, by the way, between what you cite as old and what you cite as new. 'Diki's story' is worthless as a referent for humor (no offense, Diki) because it uses SW as a referent to begin with. It's all recursive and idiotic to hinge jokes on references to it.

You are aware that there are a lot of people who would disagree with you, right? You are also aware that this story was not written for you, right?
Presumably you're also aware that not everyone would find Desp jokes funny, and I certainly hope that you understand that there's absolutely no reason why Dikiyoba should go out of her way to please you. Not everyone has the same sense of humor.

And if you seriously think Dikiyoba's story is to become the only source of humor for SW, you're just paranoid.

You have me entirely wrong. The problem with Diki's story is not that I don't find it funny. (I don't, but that's between me and her.) Even if I did find it funny, I wouldn't consider using it as a referent acceptable - because it uses as a referent the very community that feels compelled to whip it out to it.

Oh, okay. You're complaining about the fact that Diki's story is a referent, and some jokes are using Diki's story as a referent, so these jokes are used as a referent to a referent. The snake's biting its own tail and all that.
Can't argue with you on that one, I suppose.
Posts: 363 | Registered: Wednesday, February 22 2006 08:00
Why You Suck in General
Shock Trooper
Member # 6821
Profile #27
There aren't that many references to Dikiyoba's script on the forums, with the exception of one thread.
It's not as if Diki's story was a sticky thread in the Geneforge 4 forum.
General is the new misc forum, and should be seen as such. Writing about the people who visit the forums started long ago : See TM's moniker thread, or the Inn of Blades, or even some old (now probably deleted) Desp articles about Alec, TM and Vince Fizz.
Posts: 363 | Registered: Wednesday, February 22 2006 08:00
Avernum 4 - 7.63 (10.0/1.0) in General
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Member # 6821
Profile #22
Hey, wait. If this is a CSR-like rating topic, you have to give it a 1.0.

...Though it will be up to BainIhrno to decide whether 0.0 is a valid rating.
Posts: 363 | Registered: Wednesday, February 22 2006 08:00
SpiderWeb Merchandising! in General
Shock Trooper
Member # 6821
Profile #23
quote:
Originally written by The Sorcerer:

IMAGE(http://photos-714.ak.facebook.com/ip002/v63/66/76/141300885/n141300885_30549714_4120.jpg)

Er, you do realize that no Spiderweb game exists in which you can't move diagonally? :P

SubTerra. :P
Posts: 363 | Registered: Wednesday, February 22 2006 08:00
Why You Suck in General
Shock Trooper
Member # 6821
Profile #24
quote:
Originally written by Protocols of the Elders of Zion:



Critical differences are at work here, by the way, between what you cite as old and what you cite as new. 'Diki's story' is worthless as a referent for humor (no offense, Diki) because it uses SW as a referent to begin with. It's all recursive and idiotic to hinge jokes on references to it.

You are aware that there are a lot of people who would disagree with you, right? You are also aware that this story was not written for you, right?
Presumably you're also aware that not everyone would find Desp jokes funny, and I certainly hope that you understand that there's absolutely no reason why Dikiyoba should go out of her way to please you. Not everyone has the same sense of humor.

And if you seriously think Dikiyoba's story is to become the only source of humor for SW, you're just paranoid.
Posts: 363 | Registered: Wednesday, February 22 2006 08:00
Rate Homeland : The Stone of Night in General
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Member # 6821
Profile #36
quote:
Originally written by penguindude:

can anyone give me a Homeland save file for the registered game? I want to see further in the game before I rate. (I have reg. version but can;t beat it)
You can't beat it? Telling me where you're stuck would help. The sewers of Mandelin? The fight with Maglius? Lauriston? Harbordale? Buolkaloch? The Citadel? The Isle of the Winds? Or perhaps Necru?
Posts: 363 | Registered: Wednesday, February 22 2006 08:00
Because I Can: The Masochist's Guide To G4 in Geneforge 4: Rebellion
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Member # 6821
Profile #8
I haven't bought G4 yet, but the "don't attack anything" "challenge" was extremely easy in the first three Geneforges, and I suspect it will be that way for G4, especially if you have the hint book. :P

An example : You can sabotage Shaila's platform while she's standing on it. The lightning aura will "kill" her in only a few rounds.

EDIT : Okay, I think you do have to attack Barzahl in G2 if you want the Loyalist or Taker ending, even if you let the Drayks do all the work for you.

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Posts: 363 | Registered: Wednesday, February 22 2006 08:00
Rate Homeland : The Stone of Night in General
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Member # 6821
Profile #32
Hm. Interesting. The only problem I ever had with Homeland running in Windows XP was with the cutscenes taking a while to load. It may have something to do with your drivers, or something like that.
Homeland is a bit old, after all.

EDIT : Hey, wait. Where is the Spiderweb Homeland webpage? I can't find it, even on the older games page. The link to Spiderweb from Dragonlore appears to be dead as well. Did it get deleted?

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Posts: 363 | Registered: Wednesday, February 22 2006 08:00
Exile 1: Escape from the Pit - 7.39 (9.0/6.0) in General
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Member # 6821
Profile #14
I can't say I liked *any* of Jeff's Exile games, not even his BoE scenarios. Maybe it's because Avernum has a lot more gameplay balance (However, BoE is much more fun to play than BoA), maybe it's because Exile isn't much when compared to some BoE scenarios out there, nevertheless; I'm not sure I will ever buy the Exile trilogy.
I'm not going to rate them - they're not *bad* games, but I just didn't really like them.
Posts: 363 | Registered: Wednesday, February 22 2006 08:00
Rate Homeland : The Stone of Night in General
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Member # 6821
Profile #28
Aran, were you using Windows Vista or something? I have to trouble at all with Homeland running in Windows XP.
Posts: 363 | Registered: Wednesday, February 22 2006 08:00
Blades of Exile - 9.82 (10.0/7.0) in General
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Member # 6821
Profile #32
Now that I've played a lot of BoE scenarios, I can say I'm impressed. The bugs are still annoying, but it's still a 9.9
Posts: 363 | Registered: Wednesday, February 22 2006 08:00
Geneforge 3 - 7.47 (9.5/2.0) in General
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Member # 6821
Profile #12
Yawn. I'll update all of my rating topics tomorrow. Too lazy to do it now, and I've got to sleep, sorry.

Anyway.

8.9
Posts: 363 | Registered: Wednesday, February 22 2006 08:00
Rate Homeland : The Stone of Night in General
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Member # 6821
Profile #21
*rereads reviews*

I still find it interesting how many people here hate Homeland... My guess is that said people are used to playing turn-based RPGs, and Homeland is a real-time RPG. It's probably not the only reason why so many spidwebbers don't like it, but it probably plays a part.

EDIT : Hum, Dikiyoba? You should have checked your formation and character default combat behavior before saying Kaleb and Keegan are useless. Kaleb is actually a lot tougher than Korr at the beginning of the game, and I think he's the one with the most HP throughout the game. Keegan may not be as good as Korr, but she does help a lot. I bet you couldn't even beat Maglius. -_-
No, wait. In fact, you probably didn't even meet Maglius.

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Posts: 363 | Registered: Wednesday, February 22 2006 08:00
Avernum 4 - 7.63 (10.0/1.0) in General
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Member # 6821
Profile #10
quote:
Originally written by The Dikiyora:

[QB]4.0But I only made it to Fort Draco before I gave up (and it took me about a month to get that far).[QB]
A month? Wow. :P

Anyway...

The plot, while predictable, isn't nearly as bad as people say, as least in my opinion. I rather liked the shades, Dorikas, and Ghall-Ihrno.
Graphics were very cool at times. I found the vahnatai spellcasters to be especially well done.
The gameplay... was very different from that of other Avernums, no doubt. Anyway, the combat was really fun at times, especially bosses such as Dorikas or Nociduas. Dungeons ranged from 'supercool' to 'long and tedious'. The chitrach plague was just plain boring, IMHO. The teleporting feature was welcome. I loved the adventurers' tests as well.
Overall, it had some very fun parts, but it could have been much better had some parts been shorter.

8.4

On an unrelated note, I downloaded Geneforge 4, and it's in my opinion Spiderweb's best game (EDIT : not counting Blades of Exile), even though I haven't bought it yet; I really enjoyed the demo and I intend to buy the full game soon.

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Posts: 363 | Registered: Wednesday, February 22 2006 08:00
February Blades of Avernum Chat in Blades of Avernum
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Profile #19
Meh. I see it more as "a lot of the undead you meet in scenarios are hostile, and most hostiles you meet don't have much of a personality".

Of course, some scenarios state that the undead you're fighting are indeed mindless, but there aren't that many.
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