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This is a fugue in g-moll of Bach. I found it on the interent, played by two REAL organs, no electronic/computer crap. If you want it, I can send it to you by email (you'll have to give me your email adress, though).

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No, I'd rather see paliative sedation, though I don't know if that's the right spelling. I couldn't find it in the dictionary.

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Your musical tastes in General
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Indeed, and what you just said applies for all instruments. I also doubt that a machine can play music like a human being would do. A machine stays a machine, and therefor the drama will probably stay away, unles you literally record every note, but then the sampler won't be necessary anymore. Then you can just buy a CD and be done with it.

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Registration code question. in Avernum 4
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One things that's not clear to me, is what happens to your old key. When you ask Jeff for a new key, does he delete the old one from the system? If not, then how does he now that people who registered, don't give other people who not registered, free copies of the game?

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Your musical tastes in General
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Hmmm... Can you blieve Classical metal I was listening just now, almost made me cry?

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quote:
Originally written by Snafta a.k.a. no chicken for sale:

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Originally written by Mc 'mini' Thralni:

samplers eh? then you'll need a lot of players in your metal band, but the idea is nice. However, then you can't have all the extra things a real instruments can do, so you have the orchestra, without the possibilities.
Of course, a real orchestra sounds better, but it's a lot easier and cheaper using a sampler for them. But you are confusing a synthesizer with a sampler. A synthesizer makes sounds, and works a bit like a keyboard. A sampler plays samples, taken from synthesizers or any other instrument, or more instruments at the same time. So you can sample an entire orchestra, with one small device. It'll have as good as the same sound.

Oh... yes, you're right, I was thinking of a synthesizer. So how does a sampler work? I mean, how does it get the data? Is it programmed by somebody beforehand, or during playing, does it get data from some machine?

It stays an electronic sound. In afew years the sound will ge better and better, but right now, the sounds that are produced by synthesizers and that sort of equipment, isn't like a normal orchestra.

And now I forgot how thid discussion between me and Snafta had actually started.

Oh well :P

EDIT: Infernal, could you give me a link?

[ Monday, May 01, 2006 08:16: Message edited by: Mc 'mini' Thralni ]

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Xylgham udwlnit skretcko!1!! in General
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Tell me, did you plan the whole story, or do you make it while you write? The whole elements thing and my laboritory hardly seems a coincidence. And I still applaud your good memory.

[ Monday, May 01, 2006 08:17: Message edited by: Mc 'mini' Thralni ]

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Your musical tastes in General
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But there are a lot of metalbands that contain out of six people plus (even up to 9). Of course, most orchestra's are bigger, but there are also these small groups with only 4 or 5 instruments (sorry, don't know the word for it [Roll Eyes] ) And some metalbands use samplers that can imitate an entire orchestra. It's not the same as a full orchestra, but it sounds quite like it.
Ensemble, perhaps? :P

But really, we were talking about an orchestra here. If we are going to switch over to ensembles, then it will be sort of the same as metal bands, only the sounds of the instruments will be somewhat different.

samplers eh? then you'll need a lot of players in your metal band, but the idea is nice. However, then you can't have all the extra things a real instruments can do, so you have the orchestra, without the possibilities.

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Anyway, You can look at that from 2 perspectives. A lot of instruments mean a lot of possibilities, but fewer instruments means that you can may more attention to those instruments. With a lot of instruments, a lot of things can happen at the same time, but to much of it can give a slightly chaotic sound. With fewer instruments, the possibilities are limited, but it gives a different sound.
Its really not difficult to listen to a specific instrument. I do it all the time. The instruments in an orchestra all have their own sound (except the strings), so tracking down a specific instrument is not very hard. When two instruments DO have similair sounds, just listen to the height of the tone. If the tone is very high, then it might be a violon, but if its low, it could be a viola or a cello.

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Your musical tastes in General
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That's just something personal. Liking and disliking instruments is just prefence.
The whole of my previous post was about my preference.

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If you like a sweet summernight mood, you'll like jazz and classical music more then rock, and so on...
Well, that's exactly what everybody thinks, but its not like that, really. Okay, there is quite some classical music in which you could think of a summernight, but in almost everything that I have, you will probably think about some disastrous things happening, people dying... Sweet summernight is not what I have in my closet.

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I'm not really into the classical music, so I don't know that much about it. Same goes the other way around. If someone's not interested in metal, (s)he'll know less about it then someone who is interested in it.
well of course, but I don't really think this is very relevant to what we were discussing: the imitation of certain things/objects. Its just what you imagine with that music, and it certainly is related to your mood. An example of that is the very end of Tshaikwsky's 6th symphony, first movement. When I was very depressed, I thought it to be somebody dying. However, when I listened to it the next day, when I wasn't depressed, it sounded like a new day had just begun.

However, back to the topic. The imitation of things often isn't very related to the type of music itself, but more the composer of the music. I just gave the bassoon as an example for strange things that you can do with... well... a bassoon. I didn't really say it to make a point of the things you can do with an orchestra. I'm sure that, as you said, you can also do many strange things with a guitar, drumkit or whatever. However, a metal or whatever band will probably have a guitar, basguitar and a drumkit, and that's about it. With a full blown orchestra you have 10+ instruments to unleash your fantasy on. That's about what I wanted to say.

And this is getting very off-topic now.

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A Few More Advance Words On Geneforge 4 in Geneforge Series
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WOW! Maybe I'm gonna like Geneforge for a change. Weather effects... Sounds cool. I'm looking forward to this, I really do.

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quote:
Originally written by Spring:

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Originally written by Mc 'mini' Thralni:


I forgot to applaud your good memory. It keeps amazing me that you remember stuff like my chemistry set, which I made a topic about probably four months ago. Good work!

Was it only that long? I swear you made one about August last year.

You might be very right there, as even I don't remember when it was, really.

[ Monday, May 01, 2006 00:33: Message edited by: Mc 'mini' Thralni ]

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Yay.

Have I only blacked out or am I dead, I couldn't figure that out, actually. I suppose I'm dead, again.

The worst part is that Snafta isn't revived.

The best part is that I managed to say more in two scenes in this play, than I managed in episode 1 in all scenes.

Thank you.

EDIT:
I forgot to applaud your good memory. It keeps amazing me that you remember stuff like my chemistry set, which I made a topic about probably four months ago. Good work!

[ Sunday, April 30, 2006 21:50: Message edited by: Mc 'mini' Thralni ]

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Your musical tastes in General
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Originally written by radix malorum est cupiditas:

Far more variety than gangster rap to pure industrial noise to death metal? (For the sake of argument, since I only count one of those genres as real music.)

And I do like classical but it just is not agressive enough for me, the slow parts are boring and the fast parts end quickly. Many black metal bands, however, uses classical scores in their music which is offset by blast beats, heavily distorted guitars and throat-wrenching vocals.

fast and slow parts are heavily dependant on the composer. I've also heard quite some classical music that was quite agressive (mostly modern classical), in which instruments were used for things that at least I wouldn't expect. You see, that's what attracts me to classical music, which metal and such certainly doesn't do: there is such a veriaty of instruments that can be used for so many things, that almost every piece will have its own little twist. try doing that with a drumkit.

The best example I can give is from a game, were a bassoon symbolized factory machinery. Brilliant.

Oh, and right now I'm listening to tshaikovsky, and I didn't hear a really slow part for about three minutes. The tension stays in, even in the moderatly slow part that I'm listening to now. However, it already became faster.

And I love brass. And woodwinds. I dislike drumkits and electric guitars.

Apart from that, I have never heard any drama of any sort in modern music. however, almost every piece of Tshaikowsky, Shostakovich, Mahler or Dvorak made me silent, like I was beaten with a concrete block. I never felt that same feelings with modern music.

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I just posted the killing of Mernal, and the destruction of the FNF. Therefor, my faction does not exist any more. However, as I said in that post, you can still use my spies:

Hralek: at the goblins that no longer exist.
Sergris: at the Keepers of knowledge
Moternij: at Fort Emergence
Fralsrik: in a boat of the faction KIL

Gernas is dead.

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quote:
Originally written by Dintiradan:

Thanks to Thralni
What did I do (except for quitting)?

[ Sunday, April 30, 2006 21:27: Message edited by: Mc 'mini' Thralni ]

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An RP in the World of Avernum *Reloaded* in General
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OOC: I'm hoping this is alright.

IC:

Mernal had finally reached his goal. Gernas, and other nephilim. However, something was horribly wrong in the camp, for as far as he could see from the other shore of the lake. Huts seemed to be burning, and the Nephilim were running around in terror. There are problems afoot! He ordered the army to move, quickly, and it started running. When they came close by, they saw what was happening. Creatures from hell! The Nephil god... punishes us... Big cats, it seemed, dressed in red cloaks, were detsroying the camp and killing the Nephilim.

"Charge!"

Mernal screamed for the army to charge, and so they did. In afew minutes the Nephiim were attacking the Raksashi.

They were strong. Their red eyes predicted nothing good, and their arms were like steel. Archers fired at them, with succes. Some Raksashi fell, but many more came in their place. They seemed unstoppable. The army of Nephilim slowly became smaller and smaller, until only 30 of the mightiest warriors remained, including Mernal. When a Raksashi mage fired his bolt of fire, mernal didn't resist. he fell, severly wounded. His cloak, in which the spying scrolls were carried, were burnt.

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The four spies who were scattered over Valorim suddenly felt an intense heat to their waists. they opened their cloaks and all found the remnants of the scroll in their cloak. Four spies, one concluision:

"Mernal is dead."

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OOC: All of you who still participate: this is the end of the FNF. You may use my spies at your will. There is one at frt emergence, at the faction "KIL", at the goblins that no longer exist and one at the Keepers of Knowledge.

I hope the Raksashi being there is acceptable.

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Okay, fine with me. I'll write an IC tomorrow. I'll do what I see fit.

The problem is I just don't really enjoy this RP anymore. It has become a drag. Nobody ever posts, I don't have the time, and I lack all motivation. Again, I'm sorry, but I quit.

EDIT: Posted

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Ah! But then you first have to know what style of Music Metallica plays! And no, for some people its not obvious that "metal" is in the name of the band itself (metal-lica).

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Languages in General
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quote:
Originally written by i v. I:

What the heck?
Even using a liberal definition of "speak" -- say, "can communicate using said language without herculean strain" -- there are very few people here who possibly speak more than three languages.

Whoever speaks four or six or nine languages, you've got some splainin' to do!

Well, nobody actually denoted what was meant with "speak," because technically I can speak all those languages. However, it would take me an hour to say a Latin or ancient Greek sentence without any mistakes. It would take me five minutes to come up with the right words and conjugation of these words in both French and German. The rest are easier (Hebrew, Dutch and English).

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quote:
Originally written by radix malorum est cupiditas:

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Originally written by Mc 'mini' Thralni:

And Apocalyptica. I remain stunned that they can play these pop songs on electrical cellos.
Pop? Are you trying to make me hurt you?

Do you know what they play? because I don't. I have zero understanding of music other than classical music, so don't kill me for making these mistakes, please.

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Question 2: Imbalance of Wealth in General
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I have the feeling that I'd better just shut up, but, as always, I don't like conflicts, and when there is one, I feel I must solve it. I'll do that now, and then I'll shut up and wait for Stareye to post a question about something I indeed know more.

Okay, you are right, I know close to nothing about poverty. This might be a cause of the fact that we are trying to do something about poverty without almost any result. People simply don't know what's going on (read: the majority of the people). I'm one of them. You may call me ignorant, patronizing or whatever you want to call me, but I'll apologize when its necessary (when I think its necessary) and I'll admit it when I'm wrong.

I'm wrong now.

That's all. I'll shut up about the poverty for the rest of the time. However, it would be nice if this kind of things could be made clear to me in a more pleasant way, instead of taunting.

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An RP in the World of Avernum *Reloaded* in General
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I'm stopping with the RP. Continue as if the FNF never existed. I can't find the time, nor the motivation to continue.

Sorry, and may this story not die, as the concept was nice.

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Question 2: Imbalance of Wealth in General
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Okay, for people who didn't notice it: the Holland example was a totally NOT carefully thought out example, and I certainly didn't intend to really think about that. You guys, i think, missed my point completely. The steps was what I wanted to point out. If you have critisisme about that, go ahead, but please leave tht example alone, as it has no basis, my conclusions were stupid and unrealsistic, and I know that. No need to say it time and time again.

Now continue with the discussion. please.

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Your musical tastes in General
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I mainly listen to classical music. Dvorak, Tshaikowsky, Shostakovich... Give me a Slavian (and sometimes German/Austrian) componist and I'll like it.

And Apocalyptica. I remain stunned that they can play these pop songs on electrical cellos.

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Question 2: Imbalance of Wealth in General
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So. What I read until now was very interesting, and I agree with many people about specific things. I read about causes, I read about solutions. However, I can't remember reading about what the poverty is, and why its there.

What we have talked about until now, is mainly this:

"I think we should so it this way. That is because of this and this and that."

"No, I think this would be a better way, namely..."

"I agree, but..."

Now lets do it differently. lets start with these two basic questions:

1) Why are these specific people poor?
2) In what way are they poor?

Before we answer the questions however, we need to know what we are talking about. The questions will have different answers when we are talking about different countries. I say its best, like kelandon, to start with our own countries. I'll take Holland again as an example:

1) These people are poor for the simple reason that they have no work, and therefor no money. In the long run these people get thrown out of there houses, relying on charity.

2) These people have money problems. That is the only reason for them being poor, most of the time. Of course, if their parents were poor, then there is a big chance that the children will be poor too, and than the parents re at fault. However, this still boils down to one thing: money.

Now specifically the second qustion is of importance. Why? because different people have different needs. Indians in South America, whi live from hunting. Are they poor? No. The are not. Thy have water, food, and the rest they don't need. They will probably even reject money the west would give to them. Same goes for tribes in Africa, by the way.

After that we have answered these questions, then comes the time to start thinking of solutions:

3) These people are poor because of their money problems. They get thrown out of their house. This is the first step to being a tramp and living from charity. Conclusion: don't let them get thrown out of their houses. Instead, they must find themselves a good job. This brings us to a problem: most poor people have low education, as they, again, have no money to pay for it. Solution (Sovjet union had this): make schools free for the poor people, let the state pay at least a part of the sum needed for the children to go to school. that way they will have education, and thus a better chance for a good job.

I think this is the best way to start discussing the problem.

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April Chat Times in Blades of Avernum
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So much for the blades chat. I had hoped to talk to TM maybe about the beta testing, and how far he had come. Same counts for Lenar Labs and the others. Oh well.

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