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Originally written by bk23:

All the walkthroughs I've read indicate that you should be able to simply walk in. Help!

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Originally written by --Slarty:

[QUOTE]Originally written by Synergy67:

I'll say it agian. For the same investment in magic skills, an Infiltrator only gets 2 more per magic skill plus 2 more in Spellcraft compared to a Servile. The Servile gets larger bonuses to melee stats. The Servile gets 1/3 more HP, while the Infiltrator gets only 1/6 more Essence.

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Originally written by --Slarty:

In G1, melee damage does 1-8. Period. I just rechecked the scripts.
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Originally written by --Slarty:

First off, magic is overpowered. Magic is frequently overpowered in CRPGs and I think there have been a few overpowered bits in most of Jeff's games.

I also think I know why that is. Geneforge 1 was an exception to this rule. There were 12 spells, compared to 30-60 in other Spiderweb games. Creations were way more powerful. G2 toned down creations a little and added more spells which were wayyyy more powerful, and did not balance magic to compensate. Nobody noticed because the brokenness of Parry was far more obvious.

In G1, weapons did 1-8 while spells did 1-5, 1-6, 1-7... weapons had Quick Action AND Anatomy. And there were fewer enemy resistances all around, certainly including armor. This was very balanced, because melee opened you up to opponent's melee attacks under that AP system, plus it was less tactically flexible.

Now weapons do 1-4 or 1-5 while spells and creation breath range from 1-3 to 1-10. (Yes, SoT, nothing beats 1-5.)

The acid and ice blades and so on are definitely good, but I want to correct an error people keep replicating. They do NOT do special damage. They do physical damage. They cause status effects, but they only do physical damage directly.

Also, Quick Action has a problem. It's inconsistent. Even at very high levels there's a chance you'll not get the second strike. That's fine as far as damage output over time goes if you're attacking, say, Matala. But if you're just trying to knock down some wingbolts, it makes your task much harder since you have to allow for a range of damage. (I actually like that, but only if it's applied to everything; the problem is that spells do extremely consistent damage, while QA does not.) At moderate levels of QA, it's a coin-flip. Assuming it's the same as A4, which it looks like, 10 QA is a 50% chance of a second strike and 20 QA is a 75% chance.

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Originally written by Randomizer:

Although parry is less useable in GF3 because certain spells/attacks are not blocked by parry.

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Originally written by Ghost of Starman:

For many skills, G2/3 apply the skills the same way g1 did.

Thus from 0-10 1 point = 1 point
from 11-20 2 points = 1 point
from 21-30 3 points = 1 point

for these skills, you have to increase from 10 to 12 to get an effective skill of 11, from 12 to 14 to get eff skill of 12 etcandsoon

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Sure, there are things that resist fire or ice or energy; but (especially for energy) there are less. A spell-slinging Agent can just change to a different spell. A Shaper can either employ multiple creation types, can switch to physical instead of breath attacks, or can use items and spells as supplements. A character who relies on melee or missile weapons doesn't have those options so much.

Icy Crystals are wonderful, as are wands, but there aren't enough to use them as regular attacks.

THIS is why melee got so much worse in G3, too! -- the dice dropped to 4 AND the resists got ramped up, including physical resists.

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Originally written by Mike Montgomery:

The Geneforge series has 3 classes available, but the logic of the system makes 6 possible class combinations possible, as follows:

Class: Strong/Normal/Weak

Current

Guardian: Combat/Shaping/Magic
Agent: Magic/Combat/Shaping
Shaper: Shaping/Magic/Combat

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Champion: Combat/Magic/Shaping
Infiltrator: Magic/Shaping/Combat
Constructor: Shaping/Combat/Magic

In this scheme, the Champion could have the same health/energy/essence as the Guardian, or it could be rebalanced to trade off slightly reduced health for additional energy.

Similarly, the Inflitrator could match the Agent, or it could have slightly reduced health for slightly increased essence.

Finally, the Construtor could match the Shaper, or it could have slight reduced energy for slightly increased health.

I don't pretend to be good at naming, and I hope that someone else can suggest better names for the three proposed classes. But I needed some names for the purpose of discussion.

The Champion would be a good fit for strategies where combat is relied upon, and shaping is rarely if ever used.

The Infiltrator would be a good fit for stratagies where the Infiltrator accompanies and supports her creations.

The Constructor would be a good fit for missile shapers, or other combat oriented shapers.
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The thorn batons would kill in two shots, but the one round of HP generation seems to be just enough to keep stuff alive. I'm still on Greenwood. Once I get to Harmony and get Speed that should make things a lot better.

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... and other mysteries.

What exactly is "levels damage in combat?"

Thrusting Gauntlets:
+2 levels damage in combat.

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Okay, I'll try to explain this by means of an example. If a weapon does, say, 10-40 damage, that's 1-4 times 10. One level of damage for that weapon is 1-4, so +2 levels of damage would add 2-8 extra damage. If another weapon did 15-45 (1-3 times 15), then a level of damage would be 1-3, and +2 levels of damage would add 2-6 instead. In other words, extra levels of damage make you do more damage in melee, but exactly how much extra damage you do depends on what weapon you're using.

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- Energy resistance. I assume this contributes to defense against Cryoa and Cryodrayk ranged attacks.

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Originally written by Schrodinger:

I appreciate all the help I've received on FAQs, but I've found that well over half of all FAQs that get started are never completed. That's not to discourage you, but more an acknowledgement that writing a FAQ is hard (and often thankless) work. That said, it's not too bad to go ahead and write up a FAQ especially if you have a new view of things. I've written FAQs for games which already had guides simply because the guides were insufficient. Although I do try to make my FAQs very thorough, there will be things I miss.

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Originally written by Micawber:

An oozing blade is not very useful against rotghroths, and anyway I never found one in GF2.

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Originally written by MagmaDragoon:

All depends of your playing-style. If you are a Shaper that send his creatures to combat and hide himself pimp the Dex: it helps to evade enemy's blows (+5% to hit, + Missiles damage too). Instead, if you combat with your creatures, choose missile weapons.

Remember that the Dex bonuses can be founded much easy than Missile Weapons bonuses.

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Originally written by Hume:

I hope you give it up. Matt P (in this forum the account Schodinger) had already done a very thorough walkthrough, many people including myself had helped. Actually he wrote all spiderwebsoftware games faqs ever since avernum2. So if you want to do a faq, try avernum4.

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Yes, the guide isn't bad, but why someone musn't write another FAQ? (The Matt P's guide has an error, don't you know? :P )

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