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Tools, anyone? in Geneforge Series
Hume
Warrior
Member # 5870
 written Monday, June 27 2005 14:33 Profile #13
I got a hammer which was enchanted with avoid blows. I cant get it work since I cant equip it.
Posts: 122 | Registered: Tuesday, May 31 2005 07:00
Going rogue continued in Geneforge Series
Hume
Warrior
Member # 5870
 written Monday, June 27 2005 01:56 Profile #0
Remove effects can make rogue back to your control, charmed or badly hit.
I made a thad,
when a golem hit the xxxx out of it,
he went rogue,
and the words on the screen confirmed it.
I successfully cured him with romove effects,
and he came back his conscious.
Being charmed is just a state of going rogue.
The same icon,
same effects.
Posts: 122 | Registered: Tuesday, May 31 2005 07:00
spell damage in Geneforge Series
Hume
Warrior
Member # 5870
 written Friday, June 24 2005 20:36 Profile #0
I guess most players have found that battle spells dont do damage
as said in the manual.
So I tested my agnet who has a spell strength above 40.
I tried my spells on townfolks since I suppose they have no resistance.
I simply averaged the damage done and divide the spell strength.

spell damage per level
firebolt 3
searer 4
ice spray 5
essence orb 5
kill 6.5
aura of flame 6.5

ps: there is no exponetial return.
Some guy named delicious vlish said if you pump your battle magic and spellcraft high, your spell damage increase dramatically.
I dont know if what he said is true but this does not exist in pc 1.00 version.
Posts: 122 | Registered: Tuesday, May 31 2005 07:00
what do you like about G3? in Geneforge Series
Hume
Warrior
Member # 5870
 written Friday, June 24 2005 19:39 Profile #5
I dont like it that gf3 is so linear.
You cant go to another island before you complete the main quests on this island.
And you have to help either the shapers or the rebels.
I want a fallout like open game.
Gf3 was a disappointment.
Posts: 122 | Registered: Tuesday, May 31 2005 07:00
SPOILERS- item recipes in Geneforge Series
Hume
Warrior
Member # 5870
 written Friday, June 24 2005 19:33 Profile #15
All-protector sucks.
Save you components.
Use the quicksilver bulwark or essence aegies.
Posts: 122 | Registered: Tuesday, May 31 2005 07:00
Game finished : remaining quest in Geneforge Series
Hume
Warrior
Member # 5870
 written Thursday, June 23 2005 17:15 Profile #22
quote:
Originally written by Drakefyre:

Your way is different, and since you completed the game that way, it's not inferior.
If I complete the game with a tunic and a stick, will that make them as good as emerald chestplate and gardian claymore?

Agents get the same essence as gardians do.
Gardians Agents Shapers
hp 4/3 1 2/3
sp 1/2 3/2 1
ep 1 1 4/3
Posts: 122 | Registered: Tuesday, May 31 2005 07:00
Going Rogue? in Geneforge Series
Hume
Warrior
Member # 5870
 written Wednesday, June 22 2005 00:19 Profile #21
Well, I was a little angry about that woman who blame the stereotype for her stupidity.
So I mimiced her as a sort of irony.

Myself is a black man.
We are talking about hair colour, arn't we?
Posts: 122 | Registered: Tuesday, May 31 2005 07:00
Going Rogue? in Geneforge Series
Hume
Warrior
Member # 5870
 written Tuesday, June 21 2005 22:05 Profile #18
That blond woman was playing stereotypes.
I was playing mimicries.
Posts: 122 | Registered: Tuesday, May 31 2005 07:00
Going Rogue? in Geneforge Series
Hume
Warrior
Member # 5870
 written Tuesday, June 21 2005 18:53 Profile #16
http://www.ironycentral.com/cgi-bin/ubb/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=19;t=000335
This tread may help you understand what I mean of blond woman.
Posts: 122 | Registered: Tuesday, May 31 2005 07:00
Going Rogue? in Geneforge Series
Hume
Warrior
Member # 5870
 written Tuesday, June 21 2005 15:09 Profile #14
Why the hell laugh?
Do you think I'm a blond woman?

Well, in g1 going rogue was incurable.
You have either to kill it or load.
In g2, there was a place my creation going rogue very often.
So I tried everything, and found this spell worked.
Remove Effects (Essence: 6, Spell Energy: 60, Min. Skill: 5) – Purges the target of all
negative effects, including mental ones. The higher the spell strength, the more afflictions
are removed.

It also worked in g3.
Sorry about the wrong magic name in the last post.
Posts: 122 | Registered: Tuesday, May 31 2005 07:00
SPOILERS- item recipes in Geneforge Series
Hume
Warrior
Member # 5870
 written Tuesday, June 21 2005 05:38 Profile #1
Golden Crystal - Gemstone, Mandrake Tincture, Perfect Drakon Scale, Perfect Fyora Scale.
Shielding Band - Gold Ring, Perfect Fyora Scale.
Armor Band - Platinum Ring, Perfect Drayk Scale.
Impervious Band - Platinum Ring, Perfect Drakon Scale.
Blessed Necklace - Silver Necklace, Artila Eye.
Talisman of Might - Gold Necklace, Purifying Elixir, Rotghroth Fang.

Artifact Components (These items are used to make the eight powerful artifacts.):
Purifying Elixir - Mandrake Tincture, Demon Bile.
Perfected Ring - Purifying Elixir, Platinum Ring.
Perfected Shield - Purifying Elixir, Shaped Shield.
Perfected Plate - Purifying Elixir, Shaped Breastplate.
Perfected Belt - Purifying Elixir, Shaped Belt.

The Eight Artifacts:
Ring of the Infiltrator - Perfected Ring, Pure Crystal Shard, Purified Essence.
All-Protector - Perfected Shield, Solidified Flame, Unmelting Ice.
Emerald Chestguard - Perfected Plate, Demon Claws, Deep Crystal.
Creator’s Belt - Perfected Belt, Deep Focus Orb, Blood Poison.
Avenger’s Ring - Perfected Ring, Demon Claws, Ur-Drakon Skin.
Essence Aegis - Perfected Shield, Purified Essence, Crystalline Fibers.
Crystalline Shroud - Perfected Plate, Deep Focus Orb, Crystalline Fibers.
Lightning Girdle - Perfected Belt, Deep Focus Orb (Solidified Flame) , Ur-Drakon Skin.
Posts: 122 | Registered: Tuesday, May 31 2005 07:00
Going Rogue? in Geneforge Series
Hume
Warrior
Member # 5870
 written Tuesday, June 21 2005 05:36 Profile #12
They have been bought 2 int when they first come. Thats why you can control them at the beginning.

Well, going rogue isn't such a big deal.
You can heal it with cure effects.
Posts: 122 | Registered: Tuesday, May 31 2005 07:00
Game finished : remaining quest in Geneforge Series
Hume
Warrior
Member # 5870
 written Tuesday, June 21 2005 01:20 Profile #11
A freshly made drakon has about the same melee damage as your fyora, double ranged damage and can attack multiple targets and more hit points.

Artifacts are most likely the best equipments.

Crystalline Shroud
def 16%
+2 AP
+30% resist stun
+12% resist all
+3 creation strength

Creator's Belt
def 20%
+2 creation str, dex, int, end
Posts: 122 | Registered: Tuesday, May 31 2005 07:00
Game finished : remaining quest in Geneforge Series
Hume
Warrior
Member # 5870
 written Tuesday, June 21 2005 00:24 Profile #10
You should definitely restart you game.
The three hearts are parts for crafting artificts.

Artifact Components (These items are used to make the eight powerful artifacts.):
Purifying Elixir - Mandrake Tincture, Demon Bile.
Perfected Ring - Purifying Elixir, Platinum Ring.
Perfected Shield - Purifying Elixir, Shaped Shield.
Perfected Plate - Purifying Elixir, Shaped Breastplate.
Perfected Belt - Purifying Elixir, Shaped Belt.

The Eight Artifacts:
Ring of the Infiltrator - Perfected Ring, Pure Crystal Shard, Purified Essence.
All-Protector - Perfected Shield, Solidified Flame, Unmelting Ice.
Emerald Chestguard - Perfected Plate, Demon Claws, Deep Crystal.
Creator’s Belt - Perfected Belt, Deep Focus Orb, Blood Poison.
Avenger’s Ring - Perfected Ring, Demon Claws, Ur-Drakon Skin.
Essence Aegis - Perfected Shield, Purified Essence, Crystalline Fibers.
Crystalline Shroud - Perfected Plate, Deep Focus Orb, Crystalline Fibers.
Lightning Girdle - Perfected Belt, Deep Focus Orb (Solidified Flame) , Ur-Drakon Skin.

As a shaper, you should raise you strength no more than 2.
pump int high, with equipments above 20.
Do not raise stat of creations, use high level creations instead.
You know, you flora is more expensive than my dakon.
In the late game, shapers should only use
gazers or drakons.
Only raise 2 int of them and none else.
At the end you will have about 5 of them and
still enough essence to cast spells.

If you do not know what a item is used for,
put them on grand.
They will not disapear.
You can come back when you need one of them.
Posts: 122 | Registered: Tuesday, May 31 2005 07:00
Going Rogue? in Geneforge Series
Hume
Warrior
Member # 5870
 written Monday, June 20 2005 23:56 Profile #7
You guys kidding?
I was a agent with no creations in g3.
But have my Alwan and Greta gone rogue
quite a few times.

[ Tuesday, June 21, 2005 00:03: Message edited by: Hume ]
Posts: 122 | Registered: Tuesday, May 31 2005 07:00
Forge on Dhona Island in Geneforge Series
Hume
Warrior
Member # 5870
 written Monday, June 20 2005 23:50 Profile #1
Go to the mind core in the south,
kill the drayk and feed the servant.
Ask the mind to clean the stones in the mine.
Posts: 122 | Registered: Tuesday, May 31 2005 07:00
About the difficulty in Geneforge Series
Hume
Warrior
Member # 5870
 written Friday, June 17 2005 13:42 Profile #3
Actually I think the difficulty for agents are lower. since now quick action works as 2 dex in determine action sequence.
It was impossible for agents in g2 to act fast tha drakons or rots and it should not be invested at all. So you have to explore in combat mode.
Now with the help of canisters and equipments,
you dont have to spend much points before you can act fastest.
Posts: 122 | Registered: Tuesday, May 31 2005 07:00
Protection vs. shielding in Geneforge Series
Hume
Warrior
Member # 5870
 written Friday, June 17 2005 13:32 Profile #4
The in-game instruction tells paradoxical things.
The manual says shielding.
But when you select blessing magic,
and move you cursor on mass energize,
it says heals.
The latter tells the truth.
Posts: 122 | Registered: Tuesday, May 31 2005 07:00
About the difficulty in Geneforge Series
Hume
Warrior
Member # 5870
 written Friday, June 17 2005 03:44 Profile #1
For gardians, yes.
Melee in G1 does d7 damage,
d8 in G2, but only d4 in G3.
And parry is nowhere as good as in G2.

Shapers find their fire shaping changed much.
cyroa much strengthened, drayk weakened.

There is little difference for agents.
They are gods.
Posts: 122 | Registered: Tuesday, May 31 2005 07:00
Protection vs. shielding in Geneforge Series
Hume
Warrior
Member # 5870
 written Thursday, June 16 2005 20:12 Profile #1
Mass Energize doesn't shield or protect.
It hastes, blesses and HEALS.
Posts: 122 | Registered: Tuesday, May 31 2005 07:00
XP and Creations. in Geneforge Series
Hume
Warrior
Member # 5870
 written Wednesday, June 1 2005 00:16 Profile #8
quote:
Originally written by Dolphin:

quote:
Originally written by Hume:

]Every creation eat 1/16 exp.
So with a team of 4 creations you
and each of your creation get 3/4 exp.
Are you sure about those numbers? That sounds a bit high. How did you determine that?

Edit: and one creation getting 1/16 of XP becomes four creations getting 4/16 of XP, which brakes down to 1/4 of the total XP awarded going to creations and 3/4 goiing to the PC.
Not really high,
since the higher your level,
the less exp you get from slaying your foes.
Posts: 122 | Registered: Tuesday, May 31 2005 07:00
XP and Creations. in Geneforge Series
Hume
Warrior
Member # 5870
 written Tuesday, May 31 2005 15:34 Profile #5
Every creation eat 1/16 exp.
So with a team of 4 creations you
and each of your creation get 3/4 exp.
Posts: 122 | Registered: Tuesday, May 31 2005 07:00

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