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What style of graphics would you like to see in Avernum 5? in General
The Immortal BANNED Member # 4	written Wednesday, April 26 2006 04:56 Profile Homepage #24 Yes, poor him. Because the only way he could ever POSSIBLY keep his family going is to make the same game. Again. And again. Slight yet meaningless variation. Continued repetition ad infinitum. -------------------- * Posts: 6936 \| Registered: Tuesday, September 18 2001 07:00
International Bad Pun Day in General
The Immortal BANNED Member # 4	written Wednesday, April 26 2006 04:54 Profile Homepage #8 -------------------- * Posts: 6936 \| Registered: Tuesday, September 18 2001 07:00
Deux Mille in General
The Immortal BANNED Member # 4	written Wednesday, April 26 2006 04:50 Profile Homepage #12 Congratulations for achieving under 33% of my post count! -------------------- * Posts: 6936 \| Registered: Tuesday, September 18 2001 07:00
Question 1: Energy in General
The Immortal BANNED Member # 4	written Tuesday, April 25 2006 20:55 Profile Homepage #2 A good first step would be "not hogging all of it." -------------------- * Posts: 6936 \| Registered: Tuesday, September 18 2001 07:00
What style of graphics would you like to see in Avernum 5? in General
The Immortal BANNED Member # 4	written Tuesday, April 25 2006 16:49 Profile Homepage #14 ...a4's graphics BETTER than the Exile trilogy's? Are you people all clinically retarded? As for which graphics I'd like to see in a5: I'd prefer that a5 never be made. -------------------- * Posts: 6936 \| Registered: Tuesday, September 18 2001 07:00
Power Corrupts in General
The Immortal BANNED Member # 4	written Tuesday, April 25 2006 16:46 Profile Homepage #146 quote: Hell exists (or it doesn't, but you know what I mean) as a necessary consequence of free will. (From my reading of the bible, free will exists under a Judeo-Christian theology - I know you disagree, but bear with that assumption for the sake of argument) Okay, sure. I can go with that. quote: The Ecumenically-inclined Christian sects believe at least that virtuous members of other belief systems are free from damnation. Except for the current papacy: Remember, it was Ratzinger who originally censored the works of Rahner. quote: "Accepting Jesus" and "loving God" don't have to mean anything more than following "love your neighbor as I have loved you," because Jesus himself said that if you are kind to your neighbor, if you love your neighbor, then you love him, and acceptance is rather a necessary component of love, don't you think? Wow- nice use of logic. (Not being sarcastic here.) quote: As has been pointed out in this thread, it is by no means a universal Judeo-Christian belief that hell is torment; the only common belief is that hell is distance from God and lack of the joy derived from closeness to/unity with God. Well, okay. Let's take this definition, then. But let me make a proposition: Let's take a random person. We'll call this person "Pat." Now, Pat's parents abused her/him in the worst ways possible, Pat had no friends in school, and s/he was unsuccessful for her/his entire life. These things happen, unfortunately. Now certainly, Pat did not experience a life that was particularly condusive into making her/him a loving, caring person. And let's say that Pat had free will. But. Let's say there is another individual whom we will call "Chris." Chris grew up in a genuine, caring and economically stable household, and was placed into a situation by birth that was much more condusive into making her/him a loving human being. Now let's say that what is statistically bound to happen to both Pat and Chris respectively happens: Pat leads a loveless life and ends up being quite "far" from god, whereas Chris lives a wonderful live and ends up quite "close" to god. But this leads me to a proposition I made earlier: What of these two individuals who led lives so oppressive that the odds of their both going against what is statistically bound to happen is so slim as to be a macrocosmic impossibility? Is Pat truly held to the same standards as Chris? Is Pat's eternal afterlife supposed to be that much worse than Chris' because of what Pat's parents did to her/him? How can an ultimately fair god not take into account how alienated Pat was when allowing her/him to be so far away from it? -------------------- * Posts: 6936 \| Registered: Tuesday, September 18 2001 07:00
Power Corrupts in General
The Immortal BANNED Member # 4	written Tuesday, April 25 2006 06:40 Profile Homepage #133 quote: Believe me God has good reason to look full of himself. He really is just that great. He's also, oddly enough the nicest person I've ever met. Seriously, once you know him you see that he's completly right in all that he does. Yeah, I gotta admit, Hitler was a surprisingly nice man. Sure, he let a lot of people burn, but oddly enough he's the nicest person I've ever met. Seriously, once you know how truly awful those nasty jews, communists, gypsies and homosexuals are you see that he's completely right in all that he does. ... I am not using this argument lightly OR sarcastically. This entirely blind faith you are preaching makes ANY moral or ethical proposition instantly correct. If I were to say ANYTHING here (including, sadly enough, this small bit of text), I would be repeating myself. I have already pre-empted your argument before you made it, and you have post-emptively ignored it. -------------------- * Posts: 6936 \| Registered: Tuesday, September 18 2001 07:00
Stereotypically Yours in General
The Immortal BANNED Member # 4	written Tuesday, April 25 2006 06:33 Profile Homepage #60 quote: Originally written by Delicious Vlish: Taps tentacle on desk That's not what tentacles were designed to tap. -------------------- * Posts: 6936 \| Registered: Tuesday, September 18 2001 07:00
Power Corrupts in General
The Immortal BANNED Member # 4	written Monday, April 24 2006 21:02 Profile Homepage #128 quote: Originally written by Lenar Labs: quote: Originally written by I Would Have Been Your Daddy: [QB]If God is all about forgiveness, then why is there Hell? [QB] Justice. Perfection. I once heard "balance" thrown into the mix, but I don't necessarily agree with it. Essentially, a perfect God must have a perfect, balanced judicial system. Everyone who intentionally violates His perfect will must be punished, because it is an act of defiance (or somesuch). Justice must be served out because this is a perfect system. Locke and Plato, sitting in a tree, K-I-S-S-I-N-G... I'm sorry, but when I think of "perfection," "people suffering for all of eternity" is not what I had in mind. Consider: 1. You take my cookie. I punch you in the face and break your nose. End results: you no longer take my cookies (hopefully, unless you're dumb enough to get your jugular ripped out next time), and I got my rocks off to beating the living tar out of you. 2. You take my cookie. I explain to you that I was going to eat that cookie, and how it was inconsiderate for you to have taken it without asking. End results: you no longer take my cookies. For (1) to be somehow better than (2) implies that there is an inherent value to vengeance (hence my referencing Locke earlier), which is: 1. Incredibly unproductive, since you now have a gaping wound after I mauled you 2. Outright evil, since if harming people is evil, I have perpetrated an evil myself (which is why I find it strange that you discount "balance," seeing as how you need as many ideological props as you can scrounge up to justify your insatiable yet holy bloodlust). If your god is truly as vengeant as it says in the bible and as you are claiming, then send me to hell PLEASE, since I would much rather burn for eternity than spend five seconds in a room with such a self-centered asswipe. quote: The forgiveness bit comes in because there is apparrently a loophole in the perfect system (makes you wonder about the nature of perfection), ...makes you wonder about the nature of perfection? There are only two interpretations of this: 1. Perfection does not involve brutally slaying people, in which case I would be curious as to how hell could EVER be justified by such a so-called "perfect" god 2. Perfection involves the most gory violence and carnal torture as possible, in which case offering all white males a legal loophole out of torture is somehow sparing those who can and must be butchered for sake of perfection On the one hand, you're defeating yourself. On the other hand, you're abjectly evil. Eh, your pick. But anyway: quote: in that even though someone has to be punished, it doesn't have to be the one who transgressed. So, *through some strange working of great theological and metaphysical significance that I don't really understand (i just know that it works), the way things work out is that hell is for two kinds of people: People who are still defiant of God, and those that don't want forgiveness. Emphasis. Added. IF YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY* IT WORKS, THEN WHY ARE YOU FOLLOWING IT? If you're saying that to deny the almighty chirst is to continue to sin, and yet christ died to forgive all sins, then wouldn't your sins become forgiven as you made them, up to and including defiance of god? Or alternatively: If your argument is that all of the sins you could ever commit are wiped away only by accepting christ, then you've changed the game a bit. It's not that jesus had died to forgive all sins anymore, merely those commited by those who believe. And okay, maybe he had the intentions that all would come to believe in him, preferably making it so that all sins would be forgiven through him. Fat chance. Consider that his religious movement, starting post-partum, starts with a very small and concentrated number of people, globally speaking. Which poses a riddle: What if someone in China dies 2-3 days after christ ascended into heaven, with no chance of hearing of Judaism, nevermind jesus? But let's ignore people who had absolutely no chance to hear of christ in their entire lives, since it would be incredibly vindictive to damn them, right? Well, okay. But let's say we're talking about modern-day times in an area that isn't totally christian, but in which christianity might be spread. Say, ohh, Iraq, in which missionaries are (or at least WERE, under saddam-- though that's likely no longer the case) allowed, but Islam is very much the dominant religion. And what if Ahmed speaks with a missionary one day for a little while-- say, a 5-10 minute discussion-- but they can't (for whatever reason) find a way to continue communications after the first meeting. (Let's say, for instance, that this was the missionary's last day in the country.) Can Ahmed reasonably be damned for not accepting christ? Ahmed knew that christ existed, and he even had a missionary chat it up with him for a while! But it might be considered unfair to damn him, since he hasn't been given any exposure beyond a glossing and whatever his culture might say about this bizarre, seemingly cannibalistic religion. Let's say that god damns Ahmed. This presents two situations: (a) Ahmed had a message in his "soul" when the missionary spoke to him, and it was actually his "choice" to deny christ (b) Ahmed had no such message in his "soul," and god judged him equally in comparison to someone from the bible belt, whose exposure to christ is far more prevalent (and perhaps even cult-like, but that's extraneous). Under scenario (a), you are making the assertion that all people are truly equal under god, which is better than (b) (but more on that in a bit). But then, why the extreme prevalence of christians being raised in areas that are predominately christian? Aren't all people compelled to convert to christ equally, allowing their free will to determine whether or not they accept jesus? The math simply doesn't add up: if all souls have completely equal opportunity to be saved, then wouldn't the distribution of christians be more equalized than what we have today? But let's assume that the inequal distribution of saved persons is sheer happenstance, or (as pastors might love to say) that many people in the bible belt are less saved than they might think. (And again with the south being one big cult, but let's skip that.) Still, your argument has one striking conclusion that makes it absolutely unpalatable: If accepting christ or not is ultimately a test of merit and nothing more since all souls have equal opportunity, then you are saying that you have merit over all of the unsaved for having made the transparent (ie, easily discerned) choice of buying into true christianity. And when "look at how much better I am than you" is a consequence of your argument, you will find that you might even hinder attempts to convert others. Which brings me to scenario (b). If Ahmed (or, more accurately, Ahmed's soul) actually DIDN'T have the same opportunities as yours did, then why? Many reasons begin popping up (one of which might be "because he's not stupid enough to believe such nonsense," but we'll leave that one be). Being born in an Islamic country is probably a huge influence. OR it could be that missionaries did a terrible job at converting him. But wait, doesn't that mean that Ahmed's soul was disadvantaged from the get-go? And that even if there is some element of free will in whether or not Ahmed accepts christ, that you have automatically been given a handicap that he hasn't had the chance to accept? And what if his odds of accepting chirst become so minimal based on everything that happens to him, whereas your odds of accepting christ are somewhere approaching 90%? Can your god truly be so cruel? Or perhaps it truly was your duty to convert Ahmed before he died in his sins, only to be slain by a snake-tongued redskin for all of eternity over and over again. But doesn't that mean that you, a man of god, are at least partially to blame for Ahmed's fall into the pit? And yet he suffers all of the consequences of his actions, whereas yours are entirely forgiven. And if that is the closest your god can ever come to justice, then it is either cruel and merciless to the extent that heaven is hell-times-hardcore, or it is stupid to the extent that not even the outhouses in heaven work, and the ground is strewn with the true believers' fecal matter, intellectual or otherwise. ... So okay. Let's just go with my point from a few pages above stating that jesus, by his own logic, should forgive all sins, even the sin of not wanting to be forgiven. In other words, everything is forgen. And that's nice. But at that point, why believe? And if you disagree with any of this points, you are now well obliged to respond. -------------------- * Posts: 6936 \| Registered: Tuesday, September 18 2001 07:00
Zoophilia in General
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Stereotypically Yours in General
The Immortal BANNED Member # 4	written Monday, April 24 2006 19:09 Profile Homepage #42 Your rear, my gear. Savor the flavor. EDIT: My bowdlerisations are lamer than usual to fit the stereotype. [ Monday, April 24, 2006 20:51: Message edited by: Imban ] -------------------- * Posts: 6936 \| Registered: Tuesday, September 18 2001 07:00
Stereotypically Yours in General
The Immortal BANNED Member # 4	written Monday, April 24 2006 18:57 Profile Homepage #37 quote: Originally written by Dikiyoba: Dikiyoba is slightly weirder than the average Spiderwebber. Dikiyoba perhaps is best known for Dikiyoba's fan-fanfic. Dikiyoba is mellow enough that Spiderwebbers can imitate Dikiyoba's posting gimmick and misspell Dikiyoba's name without having Dikiyoba complain. Edit: Typo. Go * yourself, you ****-* *****. [ Monday, April 24, 2006 19:03: Message edited by: Imban ] -------------------- * Posts: 6936 \| Registered: Tuesday, September 18 2001 07:00
"'s and .'s in General
The Immortal BANNED Member # 4	written Monday, April 24 2006 16:07 Profile Homepage #16 quote: Originally written by The Worst Man Ever: s' happens when there's a plural. Period. For singular words ending in s, the situation demands an ugly but nonetheless necessary s's. (You certainly wouldn't say "Gus bus", would you? No. You would say "Gusses bus", because it is supposed to be Gus's bus.) Nice try at that whole "bass-ackwards logic" there, but since when has ANYTHING in English been written the way it is pronounced? It is easier to say "gus-es," but it is ugler to write "gus's." I can tolerate "s's," but it's absolutely hideous on the eyes. (And for what it's worth, it also wastes a letter.) -------------------- * Posts: 6936 \| Registered: Tuesday, September 18 2001 07:00
A Change of Structure in General
The Immortal BANNED Member # 4	written Monday, April 24 2006 15:22 Profile Homepage #146 . . . -------------------- * Posts: 6936 \| Registered: Tuesday, September 18 2001 07:00
"'s and .'s in General
The Immortal BANNED Member # 4	written Monday, April 24 2006 15:13 Profile Homepage #14 I've always considered "s's" (ie, "Gus's") to be ugly and redundant. And as for quotations, I almost always place punctuation inside of the quotation marks when the intention can be gleaned from context. -------------------- * Posts: 6936 \| Registered: Tuesday, September 18 2001 07:00
Earth Day (belated) in General
The Immortal BANNED Member # 4	written Monday, April 24 2006 15:07 Profile Homepage #2 Well, whatever the problems and its varying causes might be, "stop raping the planet" would be a good place to START. Honestly- considering how we still depend massively on the environment, I'd consider this one of the LEAST politically charged propositions around. -------------------- * Posts: 6936 \| Registered: Tuesday, September 18 2001 07:00
Death Penalty in General
The Immortal BANNED Member # 4	written Monday, April 24 2006 15:01 Profile Homepage #25 quote: Originally written by Kelandon: Crucifixion was truly egregiously cruel. Crucifying thousands of slaves in response to a slave revolt was probably the single most gruesome thing the Romans ever did. The reason why there are no forests left in Italy is because they were all cleared to make wood for more crucifixions. Anyway, another particularly terrible method of death is quartering. It's not that it works-- more often than not, the victim is left in a state of purgatory until the executioner has to whip out a saw and begin cutting limbs off to help the horses along. -------------------- * Posts: 6936 \| Registered: Tuesday, September 18 2001 07:00
Power Corrupts in General
The Immortal BANNED Member # 4	written Monday, April 24 2006 03:49 Profile Homepage #106 quote: Originally written by rantalot: He said that in his minds both are parallel lines he never lets one get involved with the other one. Science is for the portion of his brain that only looks at facts and religion is for the part that believes that there is more to life than meets the eye. (something seemed and felt so freaken right about that answer) I believe without any external evidence that all racial minorities can and must be subjugated for the good of god's chosen people. Something seems and feels so freaken right about not taking a fellow human being at face value to me too. -------------------- * Posts: 6936 \| Registered: Tuesday, September 18 2001 07:00
Scenario Processing in Blades of Exile
The Immortal BANNED Member # 4	written Sunday, April 23 2006 20:15 Profile Homepage #25 quote: Originally written by Mc 'mini' Thralni: The hardest part for me, was the alpha-testing. Alpha-testing only sucks if your scenario does. (In all actuality, I agree with Thralni that alpha-testing can be incredibly difficult if you have complex bits of coding to do. I usually alpha-test these bits in particular immediately after I've made them to avoid incredible pains down the road.) -------------------- * Posts: 6936 \| Registered: Tuesday, September 18 2001 07:00
Difficulty of Bahssikava in Blades of Avernum
The Immortal BANNED Member # 4	written Saturday, April 22 2006 18:41 Profile Homepage #14 BoA designers haven't had the greatest success with most things, but all BoA combat has been deliberately chosen, whether it be good or stupid. Plus, considering how mind-bendingly tough some scenarios are with normal tactics... -------------------- * Posts: 6936 \| Registered: Tuesday, September 18 2001 07:00
Spidweb Community Xbox Live Party! in General
The Immortal BANNED Member # 4	written Saturday, April 22 2006 12:13 Profile Homepage #65 Buying previous-generation consoles is generally the way to go. Even if the consoles might not decrease that much in price, you can still get most games at a bargain. -------------------- * Posts: 6936 \| Registered: Tuesday, September 18 2001 07:00
OoC Thread for "An RP in the World of Avernum... Reloaded" in General
The Immortal BANNED Member # 4	written Saturday, April 22 2006 12:12 Profile Homepage #403 Well, the star was in the sky for a day. Although it could be that Mernal simply didn't figure out that the book could be opened during that period until near the end. (And if you must know what the purpose is, it's two-fold. It sends a psychic message to all Rakshasi on Ermarian, and it also has a hidden message written in the Rakshasic tongue telling them where the star actually is and how to get to it via magical portals. That it would cause a book to open as well is also feasible.) EDIT: Not to be a nitpicker, but the notion of a human faction being better with illusions than the rakshasi is a bit outlandish. (I'm talking about the Dominion forces that fled from Angel's Rest.) A better explanation would be "we saw them and ran before they noticed us," not "we used the type of magic they are masters of better than they did." [ Saturday, April 22, 2006 17:45: Message edited by: Butt Paladin ] -------------------- * Posts: 6936 \| Registered: Tuesday, September 18 2001 07:00
Spidweb Community Xbox Live Party! in General
The Immortal BANNED Member # 4	written Saturday, April 22 2006 07:35 Profile Homepage #61 I played Halo once, for about six hours. And then, I actually figured out which way I was supposed to go. It's as if Halo was marketed exclusively to the "people who like to cut themselves" demographic. -------------------- * Posts: 6936 \| Registered: Tuesday, September 18 2001 07:00
Difficulty of Bahssikava in Blades of Avernum
The Immortal BANNED Member # 4	written Saturday, April 22 2006 07:28 Profile Homepage #9 Bahssikava is a lot more "standard" in its combat practices than, say, Canopy-- which is to say that a lot more leveling is involved than tactics. Canopy is more like (although not nearly as good as) Bandits II. Which is to say, Canopy and B2 are really hard, but if you know the tricks to 'em, they're a LOT easier. (Imban managed to beat B2 at level 5, whereas Thuryl beat Canopy at level 20 while on Torment.) -------------------- * Posts: 6936 \| Registered: Tuesday, September 18 2001 07:00
OoC Thread for "An RP in the World of Avernum... Reloaded" in General
The Immortal BANNED Member # 4	written Friday, April 21 2006 20:56 Profile Homepage #392 Oh, and before I forget: I need to know what is going on in Pralgad, who is allied with whom, and where armies are currently situated, so I can position the rakshasi correctly and so I know how to deal with the various factions there. And if there are any factions on Aizo, which I doubt, let me know- or else I'm simply going to assume that the rakshasi win there. ~_~ -------------------- * Posts: 6936 \| Registered: Tuesday, September 18 2001 07:00

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