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Homeland since there isnt a place in General
Shaper
Member # 496
Profile #12
This thread finally prompted me to play beyonmd the demo borders. I wish I hadn't. I found having to kill 1,000+ snakes for experience and equipment enough to survive the compulsory melees in the first dungeon tiresome, but things got worse, not better thereafter.

After clicking through featureless terrain for 20 minutes (real-time!), you finally reach the next town (one of only three on the 'continent' of Octavia). You can buy things from merchants or find out who's the local werewolf. As you're dealing with one option dialogue, this doesn't take too long (bad like the riddles in Avernum, where the dialogue gives you the answers...). A servant telling you not to kill wolves as he's concerned about the local ecological balance ("you feel he is not telling you the whole truth") was a bit of a giveaway too. The 'boss' turns out to be the local lord's grumpy mistress - not exactly an awe-inspiring challenge, combat-wise.

Thence another 20 minutes tedious clicking to the capital and another non-mystery to chase. You do get to learn magic here, though the 'tests' basically consist of 'cast the spell you've just been taught and go through the next area before it runs out'. Very testing - or trying, rather! During a sidequest, your dog learns to talk, but never says anything more interesting than 'get on with the next mission', like all the other NPCs do.

After this, you get teleported to a tower and have to do three simple things in the right order - and typically total darkness as the Light spell is so inconsistent and crap. This done, you have completed just about everything there is to do on the Octavian 'continent' other than bash randon, annoying monsters. One of the few sidequests left was clicking for 20 minutes up a ravine. For the effort, I'd expect the Holy Grail at least, but at the end is a hut with a slightly-better-than-usual bow in and a few big scorpions to squish randomly whilst trekking back. IMAGE(Spiderweb Software Boards Homeland since there isnt a place_files/mad.gif)

Anyway, you're told to leave for the neighbouring 'continent' (two towns there, I believe) by following the coast to the northern ice. You do, but a game bug won't let you go more than a few leagues - no ice, no new 'continent', no end to 'Homeland'. Well, it was for me - off to the Trashland of No Return. I want those two days of my life back, please sir!
Posts: 2333 | Registered: Monday, January 7 2002 08:00
What could be next, I wonder? in General
Shaper
Member # 496
Profile #19
Same here. Amzing exercise in crowd psychology, eh?
Posts: 2333 | Registered: Monday, January 7 2002 08:00
Poor, poor Drakey in General
Shaper
Member # 496
Profile #26
I can't believe someone revived at two year old topic. I can't believe I am contributing to it.
Posts: 2333 | Registered: Monday, January 7 2002 08:00
Homeland since there isnt a place in General
Shaper
Member # 496
Profile #4
I've only got as far as the demo for Homeland and thought it was OK. The plotting is quite clever in places, though I haven't really got round to using the magic system yet. Killing all those snakes at the start to raise dosh enough for decent equipment was a bit tiresome, I'll concede.
Posts: 2333 | Registered: Monday, January 7 2002 08:00
To speak english or not to english speak veeri vel... in General
Shaper
Member # 496
Profile #5
This poll is sort of biased by context. Naturally it'll atract more non-native English speakers to vote as its primarily directed at them!
Posts: 2333 | Registered: Monday, January 7 2002 08:00
Book-burning? in General
Shaper
Member # 496
Profile #18
You're assuming manufacturing computers (esp. chips, typically etched with highly reactive hydroflouric acid!) is pollution-free. In terms of resource extraction, tree farming for wood pulp is probably comparible to silicon mining. And I suspect books are more recyclable than dead PCs. I think environmental arguments here are a bit of a red herring really.
Posts: 2333 | Registered: Monday, January 7 2002 08:00
Goodbye, sort of in General
Shaper
Member # 496
Profile #17
Well, did you enjoy it then, SD? I'm surprised to see no posts from you on the GF2 boards. Inner Gazak-Usss anyone?
Posts: 2333 | Registered: Monday, January 7 2002 08:00
I am new here...... in General
Shaper
Member # 496
Profile #13
Hi, BotN, though your acronym does sound a bit like 'bottom'. Or even 'button', though that's less amusing.
Posts: 2333 | Registered: Monday, January 7 2002 08:00
How many of you people are above 35 years old and still.. in General
Shaper
Member # 496
Profile #4
I am (over 35, that is).
Posts: 2333 | Registered: Monday, January 7 2002 08:00
Book-burning? in General
Shaper
Member # 496
Profile #9
In my experience, people read books (even those dreadful condensed books so slagged off in 'Fahrenheit 451') with more concentration and for longer than on-line text. They take the information more seriously, and given that a society has to be properly informed to be properly democratic, people's attitudes to information gathering are pretty important.

Reading a book also takes more commitment - you have to go out to get it, maybe from a library, rather than just clicking your mouse a couple of times. I like to think of this as some small commitment to the external physical / social world - a heartening contrast to VR, which will soon see us all disappearing up our own fundaments a la 'The Machine Stops'.

Lastly, some have noted a trensd in civilisations where information gets more impermanent the more 'advanced' (complex) they become - from ancient stone blocks and clay tablets, through vellum and paper, to electronic texts actually unreadable without a power source. Potentially, in the far future the knowledge of this (or a near-future) society would be as lost as that of a pre-literate society if information storage techniques change radically again. More importantly, disposable, transient info like this creates '1984' style attitudes to historical truth - i.e. what is inconvenient about the past just gets disposed of or endlessly rewritten to suit the interests of those powerful enough to do it, which goes back to the issue of democracy above.

Oh dear - all not very postmodern, though that fraudulent fad looks like it's running its course too now, even in academic circles.
Posts: 2333 | Registered: Monday, January 7 2002 08:00
Time in General
Shaper
Member # 496
Profile #1
15:16 GMT, at time of writing.
Posts: 2333 | Registered: Monday, January 7 2002 08:00
Sorry if this is not Spiderweb related. I need advice, and ideas... in General
Shaper
Member # 496
Profile #11
All the above seems sound enough advice (except Lemur's), though I'll add Mercucio's: "Take another", etc. It's unlikely to give you a better sense of perspective, but will at least prove satisfactorily distracting.

BTW, in defence of 'airheads', it takes me a little longer than 10 minutes to get bored with them. Conversation is incidental, you know... IMAGE(Spiderweb Software Boards Sorry if this is not Spiderweb related_ I need advice, and ideas__1_files/wink.gif)
Posts: 2333 | Registered: Monday, January 7 2002 08:00
How long you been playing Spiderweb in General
Shaper
Member # 496
Profile #9
I suppose I'm a relative newbie, first (badly) playing the E3 download Spring 2001 and getting the Trilogy CD Xmas that year.
Posts: 2333 | Registered: Monday, January 7 2002 08:00
Extrapolated 100m (4.972chains or 109.4yards) spirnt times in General
Shaper
Member # 496
Profile #25
Not as fast as me getting from curry to toilet to curry again, etc. See, I can be quite athletic when I need to be. IMAGE(Spiderweb Software Boards Extrapolated 100m (4_972chains or 109_4yards) spirnt times_files/wink.gif)
Posts: 2333 | Registered: Monday, January 7 2002 08:00
Weird Dreams in General
Shaper
Member # 496
Profile #6
I dreamed I was smoking a huge cigar, at least 12' long. I wouldn't possibly want to try interpreting this... IMAGE(Spiderweb Software Boards Weird Dreams1_files/biggrin.gif)
Posts: 2333 | Registered: Monday, January 7 2002 08:00
Reoccurring Dreams in General
Shaper
Member # 496
Profile #14
Deja-vu is fun - when you think you've experienced something before (inc. possibly a dream) whether you have or not.

PARENTAL ADVISORY: I've often dreamed of blowing myself, but am still not up enough on the yoga exercises to realise it.
Posts: 2333 | Registered: Monday, January 7 2002 08:00
Problem (bigggg problem) in General
Shaper
Member # 496
Profile #3
I suspect Jeff was a bit preoccupied by getting BoA and the PC version of GF2 out. A reminder would do no harm, as he's scrupulously honest in my experience, and certainly wouldn't deliberately fail to supply you with something you ordered.
Posts: 2333 | Registered: Monday, January 7 2002 08:00
Extrapolated 100m (4.972chains or 109.4yards) spirnt times in General
Shaper
Member # 496
Profile #1
Sprint!? What are you on? Half of us can't even get out of our chairs! IMAGE(Spiderweb Software Boards Extrapolated 100m (4_972chains or 109_4yards) spirnt times_files/biggrin.gif)
Posts: 2333 | Registered: Monday, January 7 2002 08:00
My pity for the people of California.... in General
Shaper
Member # 496
Profile #18
Maybe Arnie was super-intelligent living on the family farm in Austria and the LA smog got to his brain when he arrived in Hollywood. Still, seeing as he was a bodybuilder before he was a film star, I doubt it.
Posts: 2333 | Registered: Monday, January 7 2002 08:00
kobalds, Rakshasi and Beholders, i wonder what is everybodies favorout RPG monster in General
Shaper
Member # 496
Profile #1
Yep, I'm a fan of rakshasi too, especially their lifestyle.
Posts: 2333 | Registered: Monday, January 7 2002 08:00
I have an intriguing question for my fellow Spidweb users in General
Shaper
Member # 496
Profile #59
I imagine none of those so dedicated to keeping women 'in their place' (i.e. c.1800) with this sort of homophobic BS are very attractive, frankly...
Posts: 2333 | Registered: Monday, January 7 2002 08:00
Spiderweb Boards Demographics in General
Shaper
Member # 496
Profile #12
By the time I got to this poll, the Europeans were dominating. I guess the N. Americans aren't up yet, as I'm sure there are more of them.

I'd like to add here that polls seem the way to go in terms of saving bandwidth on personal details, rather than pages and pages of basically repetitive "I am 14" type posts.
Posts: 2333 | Registered: Monday, January 7 2002 08:00
suicide methodes in General
Shaper
Member # 496
Profile #41
Very interested in the superstition about the poppy seeds, opium being one of the first narcotics (as in 'sleep-inducers') yused by humanity. Is poppy indigenous to south America, I mean is it pre-Columbian? I'm just wondering where that one came from. In Brazil, of course, santeria is a rich source of west African folklore and herbal wisdom.

Apologies for drifting off-topic somewhat, though it is a rather depressing topic, of principal interest to Goths and the like.
Posts: 2333 | Registered: Monday, January 7 2002 08:00
suicide methodes in General
Shaper
Member # 496
Profile #35
That'd make a lot of dioctors homocidal maniacs then.... I generally agree with the rest f what you said though.

BTW, I'd specifically disrecommend drowning as a suicide method. Try not breathing for a while and you'll discover its distressing as a matter of nstinct. Swallowing excessive fluids only accentuates this. Death by 'Chinese water torture' anyone? Similarly, poisoning is not necessarily either quick or painless. You know how they treat people ODing on aspirin? A liver transplant. A waste of (human) resources, IMHO. If you're serious about it, you'd be advised to research toxins carefully before using them or you might end up swallowing the chemical equivalent of drain cleaner or something - I'm assured being dissolved from the inside out is a very painful way to go... Lastly, killing yourself with massive trauma--shooting, falling from great heights, car wrecks--is all very well, but bits of you are going to get splashed all over the place. This is pretty traumatic to and inconsiderate of those that have to clear you up afterwards, starting with ambulance staff and ending with the undertaker. Those that delay trains by throwing themselves under them are particularly anti-social, especially when they do it from the platforms of mainline stations or on the subway.
Posts: 2333 | Registered: Monday, January 7 2002 08:00
My pity for the people of California.... in General
Shaper
Member # 496
Profile #14
Don't they have a ban on Chinese people in California too, or was that repealed just a few years ago...?
Posts: 2333 | Registered: Monday, January 7 2002 08:00

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