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Avernum 4 in General
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Hope springs eternal
(this regarding the death of a begin who was never alive to being with and a good A4)

Understandable that Jeff needs the money to maintain a family and so on.
However, that doesn't necessarily mean he has to. . . for the love of what is lovable, what of BoA, then? It began to grow, we've got a scenario on the quality list. So, then what?
Is this like Lucas? Where he does what he want with his movies and everything else exists in some kind of weird kind of sort of parallel universe with perpendicular and traversing moments?

Okay, so Nethergate didn't do so hot for him.
But Exile, way back, an original game (in as far, to avoid controversy on the original part, that he hadn't made a prequel before he did Exile) did good for him. Enough to merit #2

Geneforge, which was also original, did also do good enough for 2 and soon 3.

So he could have gone and done an original game and if it was good, and taking into account that his consumer base is higher now than with Nethergae, it would have sold well. Heck he could have created a third franchise.

Bah. I'm probably gonna love it and be here some months from now defending it.

At least it looks like he has revamped, graphics wise, Geneforge slightly. At least the characters are displayed in a different way than the other two.

Enjoy them!

Edit: in the second line, the "g" of begin was toying with me and placed itself at the end of the word, thus completely altering the meaning of the sentence with possible apocalyptic results.

[ Wednesday, December 22, 2004 07:06: Message edited by: Berkelium steroid causistry ]

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"I suffer from spiritual malaise," said Cugel meaningfully. "which manifest itself in outburst of vicious rage. I implore you to depart, lest, in an uncontrollable spasm, I cut you in three pieces with my sword, or worse, I invoke magic."
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Morality question in General
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1) Ask. Shoot. Since the rules of the scenario indicate that there's no way to get the person out. Since it is an imaginary scenario maybe it is possible to pull a Kobayashi Moru and change the rules, by, for instance, using the single bullet to hit the car in such a way that it creates a secondary explosion which pushes in the flames from the first explosion and at the same time creates a space in car from which the person can escape, though with the cost of being horribly and irreparably burned, but since it is the person I love most in life, that won't matter to me. In fact, to bring balance to the relation ship I'll breafly bathe myself in flames so that I, too, am horribly and irreparably burned.

2) If we were idiotic enough to enter this pact we both deserve to die. Good riddance, I say.

Anyway, thanks Alec and Xan K for these scenarios they have a semblance with the prisoner's dilemma or game theory.

Kind of like:
You are in the jungle of some African country, say Zambia. You're walking, with your shotgun and one bullet left down the shore of a river.
Suddenly, on the opposite shore you see a magical, evil, talking giraffe who has in its grip both your daughter and your wife. You take aim to shoot. It laughs manicaly and evily (and magicaly) and screams:
"If you kill me, your wife dies, if you let me live your daughter dies."

Or:

You, your mother (whom you deeply love) and beloved spouse (whom you also deeply love) have been trapped by a mad scientist. He has trapped your two loved ones in separate rooms, where communication with one another is impossible.
He says in his mad, evil (not magical) voice:
"A time bomb has been put in each of their rooms. It will detonate in one minuter and thirty seven seconds.
"In front of you is a little mauve button. If you press it, your mother dies. If you don't press it, your spouse dies."
Your mother is only 12 years older than you, still young.
What do you do?

And others like that.
You can only decide what to do. You can not be guilty by you decision. Whatever you do, someone dies.
These are simple, in a way.

What about if the same mad scientist only managed to capture you and your spouse because your mother used her reliquiary of an umbrealla to make a spectacular escape.

You and your spouse are trapped in separate rooms.
In front of you is a daunting mauve button.
A bomb will go off in 1 minute and 34 seconds.
The first person to press the button saves the other one, but sacrifices him or herself.
What do you do?

A more serious approach than these silly scenarios was used, believe it or nut, during the cold war.
It has also been used in many differen real life scenarios.
Game theory is neat.
Salud!

[ Wednesday, December 22, 2004 14:25: Message edited by: Berkelium steroid causistry ]

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"I suffer from spiritual malaise," said Cugel meaningfully. "which manifest itself in outburst of vicious rage. I implore you to depart, lest, in an uncontrollable spasm, I cut you in three pieces with my sword, or worse, I invoke magic."
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I AM TEH SPAMER in General
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Cool beans Kel!!! And a good number of those posts were not even remotely spam either.

Besides where would new guys with questions be without people like you and Thudyl to help them?

(aside note: if I have a sex change operation done, and write your name in smoke as I glide from ten thousand feet will you date me? Or is that just another pipe dream I need to pawn asap?)

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"I suffer from spiritual malaise," said Cugel meaningfully. "which manifest itself in outburst of vicious rage. I implore you to depart, lest, in an uncontrollable spasm, I cut you in three pieces with my sword, or worse, I invoke magic."
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THE WORST MAN EVER: Round 1 in General
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It seems to me Nobody can beat anybody facing nobody. Can Charlton Heston and Arnold S. face each other? Even though Heston is in poor health, he could still bring down the power of god against Arnold who can barely call upon his cybernetic powers, as much. Though he did defeat the big bad daddy by killing himself and will that count? Heston has, lest we not forget, practice his fist fighting against futuristic sand, that's gotta count.

Even though Secretariat is a hell of a racehorse, I'd assume that Alcibiades, and important man as he was, could get the fastest horse around for this fight, or couldn't he?

One question before I keep assuming wrong:
Can you pitch people from the same subdivision, or do you have to pitch them from different ones? Can anybody basically choose the contestants?
(nevermind, re-reading the posts has answered me how this fights are arrenged)

Wiseman vs. Siberia. Tough to veer it on Wisey's favor. If he could somehow wrangle Haley's comet and bring it upon that heretic land. . . nah, it already survived a meteor, maybe haleuy's comet might be better unless it melts by overtaxing of the gulag's citizens as they apply a gigantic blowtorch made out pine wood at it as it comes down. Hmmm. That big asteroid with the female's name might do it, though it'd likely take a bit more of the world in the process, thus, probably, disquilifying Wiseman for overzealous disregard for the well being on non-costentants.

As far as Alcibiades and Secretariat, on second thought great horseman as he might have been, this pitches him, the man, against Secretariat, the Stallion. No chance. Unless he can somehow use all he learned in those lonley nights in the battle field and somehow seduce Secretariat before the Mighty Steed kicks the brains through the vertebral column making the poor hoplite develop an unnatural tail.

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"I suffer from spiritual malaise," said Cugel meaningfully. "which manifest itself in outburst of vicious rage. I implore you to depart, lest, in an uncontrollable spasm, I cut you in three pieces with my sword, or worse, I invoke magic."
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RPG Recommendations in General
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Hey TM, here's my list (some have been mentioned already)

Arcanum: very cool character development. Cool story line. Stupidly boring last act (you basically fight your way in what seemed too Diabloesque, and Diablo worked for whatever reasons it did all by itself)

KotOR: The second one (which I hear is pretty much like the first) is coming to PC soon. I played it on my relatively crappy computer without problems but with the graphics turned down. Very cool game, specially if you like SW (better storyline than the sequels, feels like a movie.)

ToEE: I mention this as a counterpoint since it was recommended. It is indeed a cool game. As it was noted you need a good system to truly enjoy it, turn base as it is, it gets extremely sluggish on slower system with the big fights (there are a few)
The problem I had with it is that it's way too damn short. Better spend your money elsewhere unless you love Greyhawk on an outlandish level and have plenty of money to spend.

Fallout 1 and 2, of course. 'Nuff said.

Planetscape. Awesome. One of the best RPGs to come out in the last 10 years. The storyline is cool, and the character interaction is great.

Morrowind: I hated it. Granted it was kind of cool to wonder all over the world for days on end doing quests, but I hated the combat system. That's just me, how I can oppose so many lists?

Lionheart: great idea. Cool character development. However, it has an atrocious combat system. One of the worst I've seen.

Space 1869 (I think that was the name) it's a very old game, from the late 80's, early 90's. But it is free.

FF7.

System Shock (old and good and free)
Super Hero League of Hobboken (it is more a graphic adventure with role playing elements than anything, but it is entertaining and free. Done by Legen entertainment and writter by Steve M. from Infocom fame)
Betrayal at Krondor (also old and good and free)
Albion.
Centauri Alliance, if you have a Commodore 64 emulator.

This one is a strategy game but a neat one: Rise of Nations.

I'll try to think of modern ones.
I guess, of those you can buy in stores right now, I'd recommend Arcanum and KotOR.

Well. . . if you like mindless killing, Diablo style, I guess Dungeon Siege. Though it is just like Diablo, more characters in your party, more basic stat system and biggger. So, just in case you dig that, which somehow I think you don't since your scenarios rely heavily on plot and design not on mindless hack and slash.

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"I suffer from spiritual malaise," said Cugel meaningfully. "which manifest itself in outburst of vicious rage. I implore you to depart, lest, in an uncontrollable spasm, I cut you in three pieces with my sword, or worse, I invoke magic."
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hey ppl in General
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Hey Waffly welcome! You've got a good reception, which is nice to see. Hope you stay and post and don't become like those leeches who post a little and then go away.

Has there been any talk about somehow resurrecting (if that's the right word) Ukranian as a language to substitute Russian? How different is one from the other? (I hesitate to bring this up but to any who may know: are they like say, for instance, portuguese and spanish?))

Excellent to have a member from Ukraine!!!

(TGM: Man enjoy that vacation the *censored* fullest!!!)

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"I suffer from spiritual malaise," said Cugel meaningfully. "which manifest itself in outburst of vicious rage. I implore you to depart, lest, in an uncontrollable spasm, I cut you in three pieces with my sword, or worse, I invoke magic."
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WBS: Yup, you should definitely check the Lyceum. They have a nicer system of rating scenarios, and, indeed, there are people who hang in there and not here. Indeed.

(Er, about that Tucan. . . hope Ivan didn't get to him. Man. Hurricanes this year are being. . . whew. If any of you folk live in Florida or around the areas the Hurricanes have passed through, hope you and your loved ones are doing good!

And welcome Livid Fire. I'm gonna use this sling here to shoot a couple of Mangos in your direction. The way the weather's been lately, you should get them.

Cheers!

Edit: Norkis says hello as well:

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[ Thursday, September 09, 2004 00:29: Message edited by: Bacilli simplify conversations ]

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"I suffer from spiritual malaise," said Cugel meaningfully. "which manifest itself in outburst of vicious rage. I implore you to depart, lest, in an uncontrollable spasm, I cut you in three pieces with my sword, or worse, I invoke magic."
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Favourite SPIDWEB game in General
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Nethergate, E2/A2, E3/A3, E1/A1, GF1, GF2.

BoE (from what I remember), BoA (it's getting there. . .!!! :) )

(Hope GF3 is better than 1 and 2. Hope whatever the secret one is not A4 or, PLEASE, not a BoG (or whatever), and that it is something new and exciting. But we've talked about this a lot recently.)

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"I suffer from spiritual malaise," said Cugel meaningfully. "which manifest itself in outburst of vicious rage. I implore you to depart, lest, in an uncontrollable spasm, I cut you in three pieces with my sword, or worse, I invoke magic."
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Fair Fun in General
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Protest Marches. Oh, and sometimes we do have dance thingies and such. No fairs as such. We used to have pop festivals where rock stars would come and play stuff. As well as the usual big city activities.

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"I suffer from spiritual malaise," said Cugel meaningfully. "which manifest itself in outburst of vicious rage. I implore you to depart, lest, in an uncontrollable spasm, I cut you in three pieces with my sword, or worse, I invoke magic."
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Hello WBS!!! Bienvenido!!!

I've prepapred a nice chicha for you. I'm sending it via supersonic tucan, so you should get it in a day or so. It might be a little shaken by that time, so just put it on the freezer for exactly three hours and seventeen minutes, then wait until it melts, and just enjoy it. It's high in good food stuff and low in the bad ones.

Salud!

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"I suffer from spiritual malaise," said Cugel meaningfully. "which manifest itself in outburst of vicious rage. I implore you to depart, lest, in an uncontrollable spasm, I cut you in three pieces with my sword, or worse, I invoke magic."
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A Perfect Forest Released!! in Blades of Avernum
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Excellen! It was an awesome experience beta testing it. Thanks Stareye!

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"I suffer from spiritual malaise," said Cugel meaningfully. "which manifest itself in outburst of vicious rage. I implore you to depart, lest, in an uncontrollable spasm, I cut you in three pieces with my sword, or worse, I invoke magic."
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Needing Betatesters in Blades of Avernum
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v1.3 report sent. All quiet on this front.

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"I suffer from spiritual malaise," said Cugel meaningfully. "which manifest itself in outburst of vicious rage. I implore you to depart, lest, in an uncontrollable spasm, I cut you in three pieces with my sword, or worse, I invoke magic."
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A Perfect Forest Beta Call in Blades of Avernum
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Sent v1.4 report. My *no words to describe* computer didn't like that document. Tried to download it at the web site, and still my computer behaved badly. Got a few errors, described in the report. Sorry about that.

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"I suffer from spiritual malaise," said Cugel meaningfully. "which manifest itself in outburst of vicious rage. I implore you to depart, lest, in an uncontrollable spasm, I cut you in three pieces with my sword, or worse, I invoke magic."
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Aspirations in General
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Now, my ambitions tend to be on a day to day basis.

But I'd like to hold a book, hot off the printers, in my hand with my name printed on it. That'd be swell.

(and go on a date with Nicole Kidman, but never mind that.)

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"I suffer from spiritual malaise," said Cugel meaningfully. "which manifest itself in outburst of vicious rage. I implore you to depart, lest, in an uncontrollable spasm, I cut you in three pieces with my sword, or worse, I invoke magic."
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french translation in General
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Ja ja! Gracias MataDemonios! La verdad siempre sale a relucir! Jo jo jo!

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"I suffer from spiritual malaise," said Cugel meaningfully. "which manifest itself in outburst of vicious rage. I implore you to depart, lest, in an uncontrollable spasm, I cut you in three pieces with my sword, or worse, I invoke magic."
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(A brief interruption.
(RC, Nico: Alo's referrence to Cathrac's Eye is from the game Nethergate by some company whose name I forget. Not a shabby game, kind of poor graphics and not very comfortable gameplay, but, hey, you can download a free demo and waste your time with it. Though, of course none of the games by that company compare with Dreamcatcher's stuff which is awesome, really well plotted, brilliant puzzles, and the reason why we are all here, anyway.
(Please continue with the thread, sorry about this interruption, a dozen carnivorous dominatrix goats are waiting for me to post this and punish me accordingly. Yes. I'm sure I can send you a video copy for you laughing enjoyment)

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[ Wednesday, September 01, 2004 13:24: Message edited by: Bacilli simplify conversations ]

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"I suffer from spiritual malaise," said Cugel meaningfully. "which manifest itself in outburst of vicious rage. I implore you to depart, lest, in an uncontrollable spasm, I cut you in three pieces with my sword, or worse, I invoke magic."
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Hope we didn't scare him. At least he began a topic, what's with all the people who create an account and then never make even write one post, and I don't mean only here, it seems to be common. I imagine some are secondary accounts just for kicks and grins, but there are so many.

Ben: tu hablas frances? Evidentemente si. Hmmm. Interesante.

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"I suffer from spiritual malaise," said Cugel meaningfully. "which manifest itself in outburst of vicious rage. I implore you to depart, lest, in an uncontrollable spasm, I cut you in three pieces with my sword, or worse, I invoke magic."
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"I suffer from spiritual malaise," said Cugel meaningfully. "which manifest itself in outburst of vicious rage. I implore you to depart, lest, in an uncontrollable spasm, I cut you in three pieces with my sword, or worse, I invoke magic."
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spy.there: My subconscious sometimes acts faster than my consciousness. ;)

Ben: You terrify me. Please announce yourself if I see you in a dark alley so I may run away or scream for my mommy to save me. Or the Flaming Carrot. I'm not picky. I beg thee.

zeitweilig schön

"Hace tanto calor que las ranas van con cantiplora." Refran Venezolano.

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"I suffer from spiritual malaise," said Cugel meaningfully. "which manifest itself in outburst of vicious rage. I implore you to depart, lest, in an uncontrollable spasm, I cut you in three pieces with my sword, or worse, I invoke magic."
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Bye, 'n' all that. in General
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Ay ay ay ay!
Canto y no lloro!
Porque cantando se aprende
Los mil dolores!
Sorry about that ranchera.
Sniff.
Bye Motrax.
Sniff.
Norkys says bye too.
Sniff.
(bah, the truth is I envy you, going to college. Enjoy it man! And may the laws of physics don't make too many quantum jumps while you're there!)

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"I suffer from spiritual malaise," said Cugel meaningfully. "which manifest itself in outburst of vicious rage. I implore you to depart, lest, in an uncontrollable spasm, I cut you in three pieces with my sword, or worse, I invoke magic."
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Towns vs Dungeons in Blades of Avernum
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Though it is not a direct comparison, it seems in your game towns are taking part of the function of dungeons (or at least some dungeons, and only sometimes) that is, combat.
I haven't seen it, but from what you've said, I wouldn't add more dungeons, unless they can fit with the story. Your use of dungeons seems cool and balanced with your use of towns.

If you want to add anything else, maybe a little travel--> side quests. How many outdoor areas do you have? Does it feel clutted?

How many quests do you have so far?
(sorry to ask so many questions, just want to get a feeling of what you've got so far)

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"I suffer from spiritual malaise," said Cugel meaningfully. "which manifest itself in outburst of vicious rage. I implore you to depart, lest, in an uncontrollable spasm, I cut you in three pieces with my sword, or worse, I invoke magic."
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spy.there: Yes, a typo. Many many sorries! Normally I catch those, this one escaped. (I'd blame it on being tire, but it's no excuse since if I were tire then I shouldn't have typed anything.)

Thanks Kel.

Slainte Mhath!

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"I suffer from spiritual malaise," said Cugel meaningfully. "which manifest itself in outburst of vicious rage. I implore you to depart, lest, in an uncontrollable spasm, I cut you in three pieces with my sword, or worse, I invoke magic."
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Ben, I wouldn't say there was any spam in your thread. Everything was according to the topic. There was a bit of a chain of corrections of typos, but that is not spam, I'd say that is helping the community to learn better grammar. Which some of us needed it badly. I found it particularly enlightening. RC must have had a good reason to lock it, and it may have been explained in that string of code he posted.
Besides, I doubt you're too worried since you'll probably begin a new thread in about a week to announce to the whole community how you reach 500 posts.

spu.there: please don't change your signature, you may get into trouble with Interpol for doing it, and if they arrest you and deprive you and you can't post anymore. . . well that'll be too depressing. But, on the other hand, I do agree with Ben. The whole "ben*" may need to be changed. I was very confused trying to figure out which "ben" you meant. But now I now it meant The Great 4808. Confusion has been abated. Wheew.

Oh, and hello Jimda! Bienvenido!!! As you've seen, there are a few folk around here who can speak French. I hope your stay is long and full of coolness!

Cheers!

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"I suffer from spiritual malaise," said Cugel meaningfully. "which manifest itself in outburst of vicious rage. I implore you to depart, lest, in an uncontrollable spasm, I cut you in three pieces with my sword, or worse, I invoke magic."
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I hardly ever use the mouse in any SW game. Except for saving.

Besides. . . never mind. I fell in the trap. Damn!

[ Sunday, August 29, 2004 23:34: Message edited by: Bacilli simplify conversations ]

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"I suffer from spiritual malaise," said Cugel meaningfully. "which manifest itself in outburst of vicious rage. I implore you to depart, lest, in an uncontrollable spasm, I cut you in three pieces with my sword, or worse, I invoke magic."
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Could some one PLEESE tell me how to reacivate the charactor editor??? in The Avernum Trilogy
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Stupid question: what is the "remote linking forbidden" thing? What does that mean? How do I make sure that doesn't happen again?

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