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I'm sure some of them did.

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Today's name, Hemlock, is a plant that falls into the category of medicines which, while quite possibly effective, are somewhat less than safe. The ancient Greeks used hemlock to treat the pain of arthritis. They also used it, in only moderately higher doses, to execute people. Go figure.

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Oh, I really like that last drawing of yours, Alex. I think I'm going to buy some Hemlock right now...

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There are too many funny drawings on this topic. Alex, the one on the last page is funnier than iGod is sometimes... And I agree with Thralni.

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It's nice to have fans. :D I shall hopefully continue to amuse you all.

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Yes excellence. :D

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Most famous death by hemlock ever? Socrates'.

Isn't it the case though, Thuryl, that in medicine, anything that has a medically useful purpose is nevertheless fatal in large doses? COX-2 inhibitors come to mind right of the bat. There's also our old friend, alcohol.

The Greeks' greatest discovery ever was moderation. It's a shame that this discovery seems to be lost frequently.

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Well, yes, practically anything can kill you if you take enough of it -- some antibiotics are almost harmless even in massive doses, but that's the exception rather than the rule. It's when things frequently kill people even when used at therapeutic doses that you start to worry. :P

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A bit of a twist on the formula today. Today's name, Puerperal Fever, isn't a treatment but a disease -- a disease mostly caused by doctors. It's a highly dangerous infection which occurred in many women who gave birth in hospitals in the 19th century.

A physician named Ignaz Semmelweis suggested that maybe fewer women would be infected if doctors would wash their hands after performing autopsies and before delivering babies. This suggestion drastically reduced the death rate from puerperal fever in his ward, but also made him very unpopular among his colleagues, who thought his ideas were ridiculous and didn't like being told what to do. Semmelweis was ostracised from the medical establishment and ended his days in an asylum. Today, of course, doctors routinely wash their hands before and after treating patients -- at least, most of the time.

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Just goes to show... great minds are rarely understood. :P

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quote:
Originally written by Archmage Alex:

It's nice to have fans. :D I shall hopefully continue to amuse you all.
Don't forget your biggest fan Alex. I liked you before you were funny AND famous.

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Semmelweis didn't recommend washing with soap and water, though. He prescribed rinses with a rather caustic chlorinated lime solution. If I were one of his students, I would have protested that the man was crazy too.

The other interesting fact is that the hospital at which Semmelweis worked had two obstetrical clinics, one staffed mostly by the aforementioned medical students and one staffed by midwives. The midwives had a neonatal mortality rate that was something like 10% of that of the students'. Nobody ever questioned the need for doctors.

—Alorael, who wants to know the effects of chemically intriguing solutions on babies. Less than puerperal fever, yes, but all that great?
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You know, that's one of the more depressing ones on this thread... particularly since the solution doesn't really sound all that much better. Caustic chlorinated lime... sounds fun!

Alex, you're way too good at these. Seriously.

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Another medically intriguing problem of hospitals in the 1800's was the transmission of other diseases by doctors visiting multiple patients without "scrubbing" between visits. I would be curious to know how doctors in other cultures dealt with this issue, or if indeed they had already discovered that cleanliness was a boon to their patients.

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Today's name, Mallets, is the first historically-recognised form of anaesthesia. In ancient times, when it was absolutely necessary to render someone unconscious for surgery, it was traditional to get them horribly drunk and/or beat them over the head with a mallet until they lost consciousness. Really.

... Okay, it's lame. But I'm tired and I've done 20 of these already. Give me a break.

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Since one of the primary purposes of anaesthesia was to stop the patient from feeling pain, the sense of this technique sounds questionable.

But then again, I suppose there is worse pain than a hammer to the skull. Also, surgeons can work more easily if they don't need to restrain a patient.

I am eager to see Alex's cartoon.

Because I am teh plagiator. Crudely drawn, bad text and overly unoriginal. As fan-art goes. :(

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Don't be so hard for yourself! I actually like the thing. :)

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Reminds me of a scene in "How the Grinch Stole Christmas." (The new one with Jim Carrey.)

"Max! Bring me my sedative!"
The dog brings a mallet.
*Clunk!*

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How can you expect anyone to object to one of these, Thuryl? Seriously, I can't think of many people that would've taken it this far, and you've got Alex to back you up with illustrations now.

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And still 10 more to go.

Anyway, I'd rather take a single wallop with a huge mallot than being beat multiple times. Less, pain, you know, before anyway.

I meant if I had to. Put down those mallets! :P

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What about a massive wallop, then after you're unconscious many smaller ones.

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quote:
Originally written by Jumpin' Salmon:

I would be curious to know how doctors in other cultures dealt with this issue, or if indeed they had already discovered that cleanliness was a boon to their patients.
How about past cultures? I just happen to be reading through Leviticus for fun (no really it is fun) and the culture recognized bodily fluids, skin rashes, dead bodies, and mildew as unclean. The people are regularly told to wash after contact with something unclean and stay away from other people for the rest of the day.

Of course, having sex also made you unclean. From this I speculate a few things. One - sex in the morning was out of the question unless you planned on calling in sick to work anyway. Two - there were no such things as quickies. I mean if you're gonna get dirty anyway and have to scream 'Unclean!' at everyone else you saw that day, you might as well take your time, right? :P

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