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No, the comprehension is easy too. Basically, it means that the little piece of paper in my hand contains enough energy to make a huge explosion when merged with anitmatter. But I doesn't say a thing about antimatter.

Anyway, the equation also says that matter is energy.

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Yes, energy and mass are the same thing, but that is conceptually difficult and not really applicable to the everyday world.

—Alorael, who certainly thinks everyoen would be better off knowing about electroweak force instead of E=mc^2. That's a definite everyday (and every second) event.
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From the 19th to the mid-20th century, chlorodyne was one of the most popular patent medicines (although "patent" is something of a misnomer, as its formula was widely known and copied). Its active ingredients varied from preparation to preparation, but typically included chloroform, morphine, alcohol, cannabis and just a dash of cyanide. Further explanation of its effects seems redundant.

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This was used for a century? Near-instant death seems to me like a side-effect that wouldn't go unnoticed for long...

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It didn't have very much cyanide in it. You were actually more likely to die from the morphine in it than from the cyanide. :P

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Oh. A "dash" is a vague amount. :P But I gather that it was still a rather unhealthy mixture.

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I'll quickly hail back to the E=mc^2 thing. Knowing the variables probably would help. But having a mind that is able to comprehend any kind of physics apart from basic elementary stuff would help more.

Chlorodyne sounds kinda like death-in-a-bottle. I'm sure consuming all those things at once caused the deaths, instead of just one ingrediant taking all the credit.

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Eh, I'm sure that is was so popular because it did its job quickly and efficiently. They should have used it for another one of those luxury anesthetics. ;)

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There's a big difference between anesthesizing and euthanizing someone. :P

quote:
Originally written by SupaNik:

I'll quickly hail back to the E=mc^2 thing. Knowing the variables probably would help. But having a mind that is able to comprehend any kind of physics apart from basic elementary stuff would help more.

Chlorodyne sounds kinda like death-in-a-bottle. I'm sure consuming all those things at once caused the deaths, instead of just one ingrediant taking all the credit.

E is energy, m is the mass of the matter, and c is the speed of light. Completely converting any matter into energy produces an amount of energy equal to the mass times the speed of light squared.

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Today's name, Calomel, is a chloride salt of mercury. In past centuries it was commonly used as a purgative (a powerful laxative), for a broad and mostly spurious range of medical indications. As if that wasn't bad enough, long-term treatment could lead to chronic mercury poisoning, damaging the nervous system and many other organs.

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*dons pedant hat*

E = mc^2 is not about translating matter into energy, but mass into energy. Energy, like mass, is a property. It is not, like matter, a kind of stuff. You have energy not in the way that you have blood, but in the way you have height. All the Star-Trekky stuff about 'things made of pure energy' makes as much sense as 'things made of pure height'.

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quote:
Originally written by Student of Trinity:

'things made of pure height'.
I'm going to have to find a good occasion to steal that analogy. :P

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As a little side question: Light has no mass, right? If so, how can it then have any energy?

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quote:
Originally written by Frozen Feet:

As a little side question: Light has no mass, right? If so, how can it then have any energy?
I have it on good authority that light is a wave. Why that gives it more energy (or even ANY energy) is beyond my comprehension.

And AA, another corker. Unfortunately, I also spilled hot coffee on myself, so... ouch.

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To make matters worse, it has momentum.

I like to think of it this way: E=mc^2 is just a special case of E^2=m^2 * c^4 + p^2 * c^2, where E is energy, m is mass, c is the speed of light, and p is momentum. This means that energy takes two forms: mass and momentum (where relativistic momentum is conceptually a lot like classical velocity). Light has a speed, so it has a velocity, so it has — don't think too hard about it — a momentum.

Light has no rest mass, though. An electron just lying around has energy packed into its structure, into the fact that it is matter, despite not being in motion. Photons don't.

EDIT: And light is a wave. And also a particle. It's a particle when you're looking at it and a wave when you're not. If this sounds entirely silly, well, it probably is, but it's true.

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Ah, so there's the part I've been looking for. Momentum. I have to write this down.

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quote:
Originally written by Kelandon:

EDIT: And light is a wave. And also a particle. It's a particle when you're looking at it and a wave when you're not. If this sounds entirely silly, well, it probably is, but it's true.
Ah, quantum mechanics brings everything into the light so very fast. :P

I never knew that about momentum though. So even if you're massless, you can gain energy by traveling. Hmm, I s'pose that makes sense.

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Today's name, Blistering, is another of those wonderful Victorian-era treatments based on the premise that everyone would be in perfect health if only it weren't for all those annoying bodily fluids. Blisters were raised on a patient's skin using either hot compresses or chemical irritants. Since this was in a time before antibiotics, infections were a common cause of serious complications in this procedure.

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quote:
Originally written by Blistering:

Today's name, Blistering, is another of those wonderful Victorian-era treatments based on the premise that everyone would be in perfect health if only it weren't for all those annoying bodily fluids. Blisters were raised on a patient's skin using either hot compresses or chemical irritants. Since this was in a time before antibiotics, infections were a common cause of serious complications in this procedure.
Wow. I bet people paid good money for a few blisters. :P You'd think they'd figure out in due time if something didn't work.

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you'd think they'd learn how to blister themselves.

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