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Only Marathon 2 works for PCs.

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Originally written by Laudanum:

Today's name, Laudanum, is an extract of opium in alcohol, popular in tonics in the 19th century. Laudanum was prescribed to men, women and children alike for all kinds of ailments, and while it undoubtedly granted a certain measure of short-term relief from the stresses of life, its widespread usage would hardly be considered responsible medical practice today.
It's getting time for the next name... isn't it evening already in Australia?

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It's still 11 pm. I'm not late, just somewhat delayed. :P

My new name, Trephination, is the drilling or cutting of a hole in the skull. Not for the sake of performing brain surgery, mind you -- just for the sake of making the skull have a hole in it. Centuries ago, surgeons (or at least, what passed for surgeons in those days) used to perform this procedure to treat mental illness or epilepsy, among other conditions.

The fact that this procedure was mostly carried out before the days of aseptic surgery and antibiotics probably didn't have a beneficial effect on the patient survival rate.

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I've heard it referred to as "trepanation". Is there a difference?

Edit: Wikipedia says there isn't.

[ Thursday, September 08, 2005 04:23: Message edited by: Arancaytar ]

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Nope. The practice also predates standardised spelling. :P

Well, I have a cold and shouldn't be a awake now. I'm off to down a couple of antihistamine tablets and go to sleep. Hey, wouldn't it be ironic if those were later found to have some horrible side effect?

[ Thursday, September 08, 2005 04:13: Message edited by: Trephination ]

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That's that thing from the Northern Lights books.

I can hardly believe that's real.

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Posts: 1112 | Registered: Friday, July 19 2002 07:00
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quote:
Originally written by stranger:

That's that thing from the Northern Lights books.

I can hardly believe that's real.

It is. Just before I read "His Dark Materials", we learnt about trepanation in the Stone Age in history class. Lack of both antiseptics and anesthesia quite delineate the difference between surgery and human sacrifice. o_o

[ Thursday, September 08, 2005 04:26: Message edited by: Arancaytar ]

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This has been happening for thousands of years. Archeologists have seen evidence of brain surgery in Eygption tombs, including healing scars on some of the treated. Debatable evidence exists that similar work was done prior to that, specfically by Cro-Magnon. Also, given the surgical prowess of the Middle Eastern countries between 1000BC and 1000AD, I wouldn't be shocked if such surgery was practised. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if they discovered and used anasthesia, and did have specific maladies that required this treatment.

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quote:
Originally written by Jumpin' Salmon:

This has been happening for thousands of years. Archeologists have seen evidence of brain surgery in Eygption tombs, including healing scars on some of the treated. Debatable evidence exists that similar work was done prior to that, specfically by Cro-Magnon. Also, given the surgical prowess of the Middle Eastern countries between 1000BC and 1000AD, I wouldn't be shocked if such surgery was practised. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if they discovered and used anasthesia, and did have specific maladies that required this treatment.

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Allegedly, anesthesia in ancient times was considered more of a luxury than a necessity.

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I wonder if there was whiskey then. Or was that the luxury?

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Getting someone boozed out of their mind was a pretty common early form of anaesthesia, yes.

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(Hope nobody minds the double post to bump the topic.)

Today's name, Radium, is a radioactive element which has the interesting property of spontaneously emitting greenish-blue light. In the early 20th century, it was popular for painting clock faces and dials so they would glow in the dark. Radium was also used medically; in one popular product, a disc of radium was left to sit in water with the intention of infusing the water with radon, a radioactive gas which is the decay product of radium. Radium compounds were even administered by injection in some cases. Sellers of radioactive medicines proudly advertised the "health-promoting" effects of the radiation emitted by their product.

Radiation, unfortunately, turned out not to be so health-promoting after all. Of course, radiation is still used in modern medicine for procedures such as cancer treatment, but with somewhat more caution.

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quote:
Originally written by Drakefyre:

Only Marathon 2 works for PCs.
Still, at least one of them does.

And am I right in thinking that trepanning was used to release "evil spirits" that had manifested themselves in peoples heads?

[ Friday, September 09, 2005 04:40: Message edited by: SupaNik ]

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Trepanning was used for all kinds of things. That could easily have been one of them, and not necessarily distinct from medical applications. It may also have been done to let spirits in.

—Alorael, who requested double trepanning. One hole on each side to prevent traffic flow problems.
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Of course, being subject to radiation has had a powerful placebo effect on people taking it, many claiming to be cured of their ailments rapidly.

But I'm sure many were done for advertising purposes.

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I have to keep this up for another 20 days? What was I thinking?

Today's name, Lydia E. Pinkham's Vegetable Compound, was one of the most famous and popular patent medicines of the late 19th and early 20th centuries, advertised for the treatment of disorders of the reproductive system (a fairly common claim among patent medicines, for some reason). The fact that the medicine was over 15% alcohol probably contributed to its popularity.

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Oh, dear. Way to go, AA! How do you draw these things so fast?

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The 19th and early 20th century, as you are likely beginning to appreciate, was a fertile breeding ground for quackery. Another in the long list of the era's useless medical treatments was the electric belt, sometimes advertised with claims to cure every disease known to man. (If you're going to lie, you may as well make it a big lie.) Electric belts generally applied a weak electric current to the skin, which was unlikely to do anything but cause discomfort. Many belts had to be dipped in a solution of acid before use, which was likely to cause even more discomfort.

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Today's name, Snake Oil, surely needs no explanation. Yes, there really were patent medicines which claimed to contain snake oil. Some may have actually contained snake oil; most probably didn't. The ones that didn't probably worked just as well as the ones that did.

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