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Item storage in Avernum 4
The Mystic
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 written Thursday, November 16 2006 13:12 Profile #16
quote:
Originally written by Nioca:

You have eight Demonslayers?

*narrows eyes skeptically*

Either you have the character editor, or have encountered some sort of unusual bug.
My guess is the character editor.

I've never heard of someone honestly acquiring that many of a good item, except via the junk shops in E3.

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my stats and greetings in Avernum 4
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 written Thursday, November 16 2006 13:05 Profile #16
quote:
Originally written by Nija_Halycron:

art?

tell me more (drools)
First, clean up your drool (digitally hands you a virtual towel).

Second, it's really a rather simple art, it's more just a way to get some quick cash when I need it. As I've said in previous forums and threads, all I do is take anything I can get my hands on, even if it means stealing (when I can get away with it, of course). If I can equip something better than what I currently have, I do so. Then I separate everything else into 3 categories: treasure, possibly useful stuff, and junk. The treasure and possibly useful stuff gets put in a cache, the location of which depends on the game; the junk gets sold. If I need money, I sell treasure. If I collect an item that I think might be useful but later find out it isn't, I sell it.

That's all there is to it. I'd show you my aforementioned GF1 screenshot showing what can happen, but I don't know how to post an image here without first posting it on a website.

quote:
Originally written by Ephesos:

Real hoarders use Hawke's Manse. :P
To each their own, I guess. We all have our favorite places to use as caches. :)

I just use that room in Fort Emergence out of force of habit from playing E3. Plus, overall, I find it's by far the easiest to get to.

[ Thursday, November 16, 2006 13:07: Message edited by: The Mystic ]

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Complete Exile 2 outdoor map (massive spoilers) in The Exile Trilogy
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 written Thursday, November 16 2006 07:37 Profile #13
quote:
Originally written by Mab:

I once had lots of spare time :rolleyes:
So I saw. In a word, WOW. There was even a couple of things you mentioned that I didn't know, which was rather surprising.

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my stats and greetings in Avernum 4
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 written Thursday, November 16 2006 07:32 Profile #12
quote:
Originally written by Nija_Halycron:

I recon I've got some half-million or so stored up as a singleton in A4 now all I have to so is woo that pretty metris girl.... ;)
She's all yours. As for me, my gal's in Formello. :D :D :D
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Originally written by Behold the Inescapable Pump:

Maybe, but how many people can claim the same level of hording?
Obviously, you've never met me. I've been known to take hoarding to an art form. Remind me to post a screenshot from GF1 when I'm near the endgame.

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Item storage in Avernum 4
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 written Thursday, November 16 2006 07:18 Profile #12
The following is some advice from a pack rat extraordinnaire.
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Originally written by Peter Principle:

Is there any problem or bug associated with leaving all of the items that I collect and don't want to sell sitting on the ground in one particular spot?
I've been doing that for years with the GF and Avernum series, as well as E3. I have yet to find any type of bug, except that GF games have a limit as to how much you can put in one spot. And with E3, if there's too many items in a town or dungeon, you get a message like "too many items, some item destroyed" when you drop something, but you need a lot of items on the ground before that happens.

quote:
Originally written by Peter Principle:

So far I've been dropping all the niffty stuff I want to keep ("just in case") at Pylon Grand Central Station, and I've recently started putting the jewelry in the jar that's in the cage area nearby. Is there anything I need to watch out for associated with this type of procedure?
The only thing you really need is to remember what you've picked up, and you've put it. For example, in E3, I use the storage room where you get your gear, both as an item cache and as an alchemy lab (for the alchemy part, mostly I make and store Knowledge Brew and Strong Energy potions when my skill is high enough).

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Now for some general tips:

First, there's no thieves (except maybe you), so there's absolutely no worry that your items will sprout legs and walk off. :)

Second, if you think something might be even remotely useful, keep it. You never know what piece of junk might come in handy someday.

Third, you can use your cache for, well, cash. If there's some item I've collected but will never use, I have very few qualms selling it.

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Editing the Game files in Avernum 4
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 written Monday, November 13 2006 05:50 Profile #16
quote:
Originally written by Kelandon:

Anyone wanting to script in A4/GF should probably get a reasonable feel for BoA scripting first, which is very similar and actually has documentation.
Similar, my (censored). They're nearly, if not totally, identical, both in terminology and in syntax.

Anyway, I agree that getting some practice first is a very good idea when playing around with scripts. And even after you've had some fun with scripting before attempting the real thing, be careful. I once caused my computer to crash by forgetting a semicolon when fooling around with the GF1 script.

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Complete Exile 2 outdoor map (massive spoilers) in The Exile Trilogy
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 written Monday, November 13 2006 05:38 Profile #7
Thanks, but I already have a more complete version of the map. Mine also includes the "Easter Egg" section, which I think is the only one missing from yours.

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Editing the Game files in Avernum 4
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 written Saturday, November 11 2006 14:41 Profile #2
I'd tell you, but I don't know myself; however, here's one way you can at least find the right file.

I'm assuming you want to change the actual item definition, so just find where the item is defined and change it. Search the "Scrpits" folder to find the text "begindefineitem" within a file.

Remember to make yourself a backup copy of the original file, just in case.

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Avernum 3 -- Barrier Tunnel Entrance? in The Avernum Trilogy
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 written Wednesday, November 8 2006 07:05 Profile #2
Despite the fact that you answered your own question, I have some advice for finding things on the map.

You know that mage spell Far Sight? It adds an area to the automap, and when you can cast it at level 3, it'll even work outdoors. It can come in handy when you're looking for just about anything.

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New Comp Questions in Geneforge Series
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 written Wednesday, November 8 2006 06:52 Profile #9
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Originally written by Dominator52:

Doesn't ordering on CD-ROM take longer and cost more?
It takes about a week or two in the U.S. to get the CD (which doesn't faze me too much, I'm a very patient person), and yes, it does cost a few dollars more. However, you can submit the game code along with your email address, so you can be sent a regstration code right away.

And there's a plus side to getting the games on CD: You'll always have a registered copy on hand, in case you ever need to re-install or re-register it.

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Random Questions in Geneforge Series
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 written Wednesday, November 8 2006 06:41 Profile #21
quote:
Originally written by Dikiyoba:

Originally by The Mystic:

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It's just my opinion, nothing more; that's why I said "I think." I do know it's possible to be crazy and hide it. And I still say he's nuts.
Dikiyoba glances at Mystic's signature and guesses that Mystic knows this from personal experience. :P
Somewhat. I have a lot of oddballs in my family; I'd tell you something about it (especially about my one wacky aunt), but that's way off topic.

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Noob question: why can't I make a Searing Artila? in Geneforge Series
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 written Tuesday, November 7 2006 16:55 Profile #1
You need at least shaping skill level 3 to create an artila, and possibly more to create a searing artila.

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Random Questions in Geneforge Series
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 written Tuesday, November 7 2006 10:12 Profile #19
quote:
Originally written by Micawber.:

quote:
Originally written by The Mystic:

Actually, I think Trajkov is as insane as your character, maybe more; it just doesn't show as much in the game.
Hmm, let's see, it doesn't show in the game. So basically, you have no grounds whatever to say that and you've made it up :P

Sorry, but I think the whole thing about Trajkov is that he is a stronger character than the PC; he can cope with the power of the Geneforge while you -- a mere apprentice -- cannot.
It's just my opinion, nothing more; that's why I said "I think." I do know it's possible to be crazy and hide it. And I still say he's nuts.

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GF2: What? in Geneforge Series
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 written Tuesday, November 7 2006 09:53 Profile #6
quote:
Originally written by Randomizer:

Generally if no one can see you, then you can steal. I keep forgetting to close the door.
As I've said in many threads across the Spiderweb forum, I'll take anything that's not nailed down, as well as a few things that are. And I never forget to close the door.

Another thing that helps is to save right before stealing; that way, if I am seen (usually very rare), set off an alarm, or get killed by a trap, I can just reload and try again from a different approach.

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Random Questions in Geneforge Series
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 written Tuesday, November 7 2006 09:43 Profile #17
quote:
Originally written by SNM:

Okay, thanks a lot. I appreciate that. :) Kinda sucks about the insanity, though. It makes me angry that Trajkov is a stronger man than my character. :mad:

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No wonder I was confused about the batons. I'd forgotten how much changed between G1 and G2.
Actually, I think Trajkov is as insane as your character, maybe more; it just doesn't show as much in the game.

As for the batons, I prefer how they fire in G2 & G3, because they don't require you to use a full turn, like I said before.

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New Comp Questions in Geneforge Series
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 written Sunday, November 5 2006 15:55 Profile #6
I buy the games on CD just to avoid that situation, and I use windows xp. All I transfer over from the games is the save states, and the parties I created to use as templates.

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Either I'm crazy, or everybody else is nuts. And I know I'm not crazy because the little man who lives on my shoulder told me so.

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Random Questions in Geneforge Series
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 written Sunday, November 5 2006 15:50 Profile #15
I hate to double-post, but I don't want to have to edit and create a single, massive reply.
quote:
Originally written by Dikiyoba:

If you train first and then use the spellbook, you can get level 4 in fyora. Dikiyoba doesn't know if it makes much (if any) difference in the long run, but Dikiyoba still likes to have it.
I do that type of thing too.

It makes some difference, but not that much. Your fyoras will start off at a higher level, and therefore have slightly better combat stats.

By the way, I think you can also do the same thing in the demo with clawbugs (but only to level 3 in the ability).
quote:
Originally written by Randomizer:

Batons reload automatically in combat. I think you could go into fight mode when there is nothing around and target something with it to get it to reload, and then hit escape to cancel.
Batons take an attack to reload in G1, and will also fire immediately afterwards in G2 & G3. What I do to reload in G1 (if I can't get to a friendly town) is go to an area with a neutral monster, and target it; otherwise (this applies to all Geneforge games), I just sell the empty baton and pick up a new one from the hoard I'll have collected by then.

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Either I'm crazy, or everybody else is nuts. And I know I'm not crazy because the little man who lives on my shoulder told me so.

If people don't think there's something wrong with you, there's something wrong with you.
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Random Questions in Geneforge Series
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 written Sunday, November 5 2006 15:29 Profile #14
quote:
Originally written by SNM:

1) Is it possible to get an ending for G1 in which you rejoin the shapers (after destroying the Geneforge) where they don't distrust you? (ie, you don't get the "always wonder what might have been" thing). Similarly, is there a way to use the Geneforge without going insane?
2) I played G1 as a Shaper and just started G2 as a Guardian. The fyora I created at the beginning really sucks (he misses his shots as often as not, and I don't think that ever happened in G1). Is this because I'm a Guardian or because in G2 fyoras suck?
3) In G1 you can pause the game by hitting escape and then switch into some other applications. I haven't found a way to switch out of G2 yet; is there one?

Think that's it for now; thanks in advance for any answers. :)
1) Yes, they can trust you if you don't use the Geneforge, and don't join any factions (and I think also if you kill Trajkov and Gottesch). And no, you'll always go insane if you use the Geneforge; I think I've found all possible endings, and there's no way around the insanity.

2) It's because you only know "Create Fyora" at level 1, and your fire shaping skill is probably level 1 also; therefore, your fyora will suck. Plus, the G2 creation engine is different from G1, so your fyora will suck for a longer period than in G1. There's nothing you really can do, except train in those skills to make stronger creations.

3) You don't need to pause to switch to other tasks; just hit alt-tab (works for me).

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Do you play music when playing Avernum? in The Avernum Trilogy
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 written Saturday, November 4 2006 07:00 Profile #13
I have a rather odd taste in music.

My preference when doing anything on the computer is Spike Jones and His City Slickers, which parodied the big bands of the '40s and '50s.

Another favorite is a vinyl album: "Dr. Fritz Guckenheimer and his Saurkraut Band: Music for Non-Thinkers." The entire recording staff, including the band, while highly inebriated (the bandleader himself consumed 4 liters of lager), recorded this record inside a shop full of expensive glassware.

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Either I'm crazy, or everybody else is nuts. And I know I'm not crazy because the little man who lives on my shoulder told me so.

If people don't think there's something wrong with you, there's something wrong with you.
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Problem entering Grah Hoth's Fortress in The Avernum Trilogy
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 written Saturday, November 4 2006 06:45 Profile #3
quote:
Originally written by Randomizer:

I used to use the Orb to get around the Fort Spire checkpoint because it involved fewer keystrokes.
That's my preferred method too. Just make sure you can leave the Abyss again afterwards.

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If people don't think there's something wrong with you, there's something wrong with you.
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GF2 ending irritation in Geneforge Series
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 written Thursday, November 2 2006 11:58 Profile #12
quote:
Originally written by Micawber.:

How bureaucratic; nothing is done unless the paperwork is completed.
My guess is so that when you finally return to the Shaper council, there's a record of your deeds in Drypeak proving what you did on behalf of the Shapers. So even if you later kill Zakary before you leave Drypeak, you'll still leave behind evidence of your loyalty.

I don't have the registered version, so I can't say for sure.

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Either I'm crazy, or everybody else is nuts. And I know I'm not crazy because the little man who lives on my shoulder told me so.

If people don't think there's something wrong with you, there's something wrong with you.
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Avernum 1: The Hardest Part *spoilers* in The Avernum Trilogy
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 written Wednesday, November 1 2006 09:38 Profile #16
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Originally written by Askman:

The hardest part was me was the fight against Grah-Hoth, no doubt about it....Even the final battle against Hawthorne was easier for me.
For me, just the opposite is true. When going against Grah-Hoth, I bring a boatload of energy potions and potions of clarity, plus some speed items. I also make sure that by this time I also can cast "Repel Spirit" at level 3, so it affect demons.

Taking on Hawthorne was a lot tougher, mostly because of the path just to get to him.

quote:
Originally written by Nioca:

I only have the demo, but the hardest part in my opinion, was trying to figure out what to do first.
That's how it was with me when I first played E1; I had absolutely no idea what I was doing until I bought the Exile trilogy CD and hint book.

By the time I first played A1, I had beaten E1 once--and only once.

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I'm starting Avernum 2 soon, and I could use some party creation tips in The Avernum Trilogy
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 written Wednesday, November 1 2006 09:24 Profile #3
I play with 2 humans, 1 slith, and 1 nephil; as with all my Exile/Avernum PCs, all of them are both priests and mages. As you can see, I have a very heavy bias towards spellcasters.

It's always good to have at least 1 priest and 1 mage, regardless of whatever else you do.

For your mage, it's a good idea to give him/her the "natural mage" trait; it's a bit of a drain on XP, but worth the cost.

"Fast on feet" is a good trait for anybody, since there's always a fair amount of melee wherever you go.

After you master the game, the "completely inept" trait can make a fun challenge.

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If people don't think there's something wrong with you, there's something wrong with you.
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Should Geneforge have been a pure sci-fi game? in Geneforge Series
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 written Wednesday, November 1 2006 09:13 Profile #6
It doesn't really matter to me either way; I still would've bought it. Jeff has done a really good job on his games thus far, regardless of genre.

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Wealth. in General
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 written Wednesday, November 1 2006 09:02 Profile #122
quote:
Originally written by Zephyr Tempest:

Seeing as how I have the luck of a footless rabbit, I'm not sure if any 'get rich schemes' would work for me, short of someone deciding to give me the money right there and then.
You have that kind of luck too? That's why I avoid the "get rich overnight" crap myself; the only one who gets any real money from those is the person who operates it.

My plan for getting rich basically takes just a little money and a lot of time. Here it is:
1) Spend less than you make.
2) Invest in the stock market (or whatever), reinvesting any dividends along the way.
3) Wait 30-40 years, checking on your investment(s) annually, and making adjustments as needed.
4) Retire a millionnaire. :D

It looks like a scam and sounds a bit naive, but it works. I figured out one time that had I known at age 18 what I didn't learn until I was 25, I'd probably have close to a 6-figure net worth by now.

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If people don't think there's something wrong with you, there's something wrong with you.
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