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Jeff Vogel & BoA in Blades of Avernum
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As Ephesos said, I don't think we really want another Bandit Busywork. Bug fixes are the top thing. Adding new calls would be the next thing, if he felt generous, but making the program work as it is intended is the most important aspect of providing support to the community.

EDIT: Note that this post occurred well before this one.

[ Saturday, December 09, 2006 07:36: Message edited by: Kelandon ]

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

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in reply to the mystic in Geneforge Series
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I'm having trouble even finding which topic this is in reply to. Anyone know?

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

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Avernum 5 Early, Early Notes in Avernum 4
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Wow. I'm actually excited about Spidweb games again. I was mostly sticking around for BoA, but GF4 has gotten such good comments on the boards, and Nethergate 2.0 sounds like enough of a good thing, and A5 sounds so promising, that I'm genuinely looking forward to playing these games. It was getting kinda depressing in there around GF3 and A4, but I like the way things are turning now.

One thing: I hope that this "new area of Avernum" will have a reasonable justification for it and will fit within the sense of the Avernum world. Here I'm thinking of ZKR and how difficult it was to make sense of the geography of the scenario in relation to what we knew of Avernum — it was just some new place that we'd never heard of before, without any explanation why we'd never heard of it or really even where it was.

A2 did a really good job of opening up a new area of the caves: of course we didn't know about the route to vahnatai lands, because it was opened via a cavequake. I hope that some similarly reasonable explanation will be included in A5.

[ Friday, December 08, 2006 12:36: Message edited by: Kelandon ]

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

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1001 in General
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quote:
Originally written by The Life Pneumatic:

Ah, but no innocent word could ever include "sfhh" anywhere, especially in the beginning. It practically reeks of malice and unsavory intent.
I shiver to think of the sense, then, of MANIOS MED SFHHEFHAKED NUMASIOI.

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

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Jeff Vogel & BoA in Blades of Avernum
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Probably not.

After a while in BoE, he said that he just looked through the scenario with some sort of super-editor that allowed him to see the whole scenario all at once (or something like that), so he probably just skims through the scripts and the stuff in the editor and leaves it at that.

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

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Beta Call for Exodus in Blades of Avernum
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quote:
Originally written by Dikiyoba:

So, Kelandon, I don't know what's up with me, the Bahssikava series, and unhandled exceptions, but I just got one in Exodus.
What it is is that I'm a designer on a Mac and you're a player on Windows. That almost invariably causes Unhandled Exceptions. :P

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It happened in Thanopolen Tower during the cutscene after killing the chief. It worked fine before that point. I haven't tried redownloading or even replaying the fight, but from my experience with the ones I got in Bahssikava, they occur consistently. I'm running Windows XP. Has anyone else experienced a similar problem?
I have not heard of such an issue from anyone else, but that doesn't mean that it won't happen for others. If you can send me a save file right before it occurs, I can try to fix it. Otherwise I'm not sure that I can do anything.

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

Kelandon's Pink and Pretty Page!!: the authorized location for all things by me
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Avernum 5 Ideas in Avernum 4
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Now that I think about it more: I really hated the lack of outdoors. It might be a problem that I have with GF, too.

Lack of elevation was also a problem.

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

Kelandon's Pink and Pretty Page!!: the authorized location for all things by me
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Avernum 5 Ideas in Avernum 4
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No, like, Exodus, the BoA scenario. The premise of my most recent scenario is exploring a large, newly-opened area of the caves.

[ Thursday, December 07, 2006 09:17: Message edited by: Kelandon ]

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

Kelandon's Pink and Pretty Page!!: the authorized location for all things by me
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Posts: 7968 | Registered: Saturday, February 28 2004 08:00
Avernum 5 Ideas in Avernum 4
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Yeah, and Solberg's homeland sliths idea is kinda treading on my territory, too. :P

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

Kelandon's Pink and Pretty Page!!: the authorized location for all things by me
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Posts: 7968 | Registered: Saturday, February 28 2004 08:00
All good things must come to an end... in General
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About Clam: You know, his name means "secretly" in Latin, so it sorta makes sense that he doesn't post much.

That's how.

[ Wednesday, December 06, 2006 21:33: Message edited by: Kelandon ]

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

Kelandon's Pink and Pretty Page!!: the authorized location for all things by me
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Posts: 7968 | Registered: Saturday, February 28 2004 08:00
Avernum 5 Ideas in Avernum 4
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For the record, this is what Jeff had to say about this a while back:
quote:
Originally written by Spidweb:

The way I currently picture Avernum 5 is:

i. In a whole new area of the underworld.
ii. On a much smaller scale, plot-wise. You have a major mission, but no monolithic power trying to blow up the world.
iii. More like Avernum 2 in details of storyline.
iv. Vahnatai are present.
v. More talk and diplomacy.
vi. More PC icons and graphical improvements, but the same underlying engine.

But I won't think about things in real detail for a year, at least.

- Jeff Vogel

I am in favor of i, iii, and vi, and I'm probably happy about ii. I'm unsure about v, and I'm a little anxious about iv.

[ Wednesday, December 06, 2006 08:01: Message edited by: Kelandon ]

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

Kelandon's Pink and Pretty Page!!: the authorized location for all things by me
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"The Order of Operations" in Blades of Avernum Editor
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I assume you mean scenario creation from the ground up, as opposed to something more specific. In that case, I tend to work from large to small. Here's what I've done, although it may not be the best way for everyone:

* Basic plot outline. Who are the major characters? What are their roles? What is the role of the party? What happens to the party, and what does the party do? This happens before I even touch the scenario editor.

* Basic engine adjustments. One of the first things I did in Exodus was design the special spells and artifacts, which turned out to be a very good thing to do. Then I was tinkering with them (although perhaps not as much as I should have been) for the rest of the design process. Similarly, I figured out the no-magic alchemy-based system in LP pretty early on.

* Outdoors. Not every detail in the outdoors need be accounted for (and most of the special encounters will not be, at this point), but some general map of the land is useful.

* Friendly towns, in approximately the order that they're visited. First layout, then encounters and dialogue.

* Hostile towns. Layout first. Combat and puzzles last. This has the advantage that one can focus on plot more in the beginning, which is fairly critical.

I may do something totally different for my next scenario, though. Who knows.

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

Kelandon's Pink and Pretty Page!!: the authorized location for all things by me
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All good things must come to an end... in General
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I have concluded, on the basis of this thread, that Alorael is simply a well-disguised but utterly shameless spammer.

Then I realized that I had already concluded this a long time ago, and I went back about my business.

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

Kelandon's Pink and Pretty Page!!: the authorized location for all things by me
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ItSoD in Blades of Avernum
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Looks neat. I look forward to seeing it.

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

Kelandon's Pink and Pretty Page!!: the authorized location for all things by me
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Wanted: Parties in Blades of Avernum
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quote:
Originally written by Nioca:

Also, it doesn't explain how to counter-act this:
Character editor. If you think that your party would've had higher skills, you can just edit your party's skills.

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

Kelandon's Pink and Pretty Page!!: the authorized location for all things by me
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Scenarios in Blades of Exile
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Of course, that scenario is not by any stretch of the imagination more recent than Tomorrow.

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

Kelandon's Pink and Pretty Page!!: the authorized location for all things by me
The Archive of all released BoE scenarios ever
Posts: 7968 | Registered: Saturday, February 28 2004 08:00
All good things must come to an end... in General
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quote:
Originally written by wz. As:

Less posting more drinking!
Quoted for truth.

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

Kelandon's Pink and Pretty Page!!: the authorized location for all things by me
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Item Question in Blades of Avernum
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Yes, if that wasn't clear, here it is again: the Crystal Wand is in Exodus, in Fort Alora (between the Strange Cave and the Peninsula), in the northeast corner, in the tomb.

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

Kelandon's Pink and Pretty Page!!: the authorized location for all things by me
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Wanted: Parties in Blades of Avernum
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Have you tried a HLPM-Artifacts Hall party? The HLPM is supposed to be used with the Artifacts Hall, you know.

The new version out later this month (read: after I'm done judging scenarios) will spell this out much more explicitly.

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

Kelandon's Pink and Pretty Page!!: the authorized location for all things by me
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Posts: 7968 | Registered: Saturday, February 28 2004 08:00
All good things must come to an end... in General
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I am now simply mortified on your behalf. This is, um, much better.

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

Kelandon's Pink and Pretty Page!!: the authorized location for all things by me
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Posts: 7968 | Registered: Saturday, February 28 2004 08:00
All good things must come to an end... in General
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quote:
Originally written by saunders:

L'horreur... l'horreur...
quote:
Originally written by Garrison:

Apocalypse nigh...
I think you mean, "Apocalypse now."
quote:
Originally written by Panic Ensues:

I listed some good things on Spiderweb. Spiderweb is not, however, a good thing. It is an evil and unholy thing, and therefore unlikely to end before the Forum of Unconscionably Large Number comes.

No, I'm not going anywhere. It's nice to know I'm loved, though, but the effect just isn't the same without Alec and TM giving a balancing perspective.

I am yet more baffled and disturbed.
quote:
Originally written by Dikiyoba:

Dikiyoba mourns the passing of a good gimmick.
And now appallled.

[ Saturday, December 02, 2006 18:11: Message edited by: Kelandon ]

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

Kelandon's Pink and Pretty Page!!: the authorized location for all things by me
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For Judges in Blades of Avernum
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This sounds altogether like the experimentation with judging that happened in the Third Contest. I am entirely opposed. I guess it's too late now, though.

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

Kelandon's Pink and Pretty Page!!: the authorized location for all things by me
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BoA BUGS v6.0 in Blades of Avernum
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Undocumented features are slightly different. It's worth noting them down and telling everyone about them, but they're not quite the same thing as bugs.

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

Kelandon's Pink and Pretty Page!!: the authorized location for all things by me
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Posts: 7968 | Registered: Saturday, February 28 2004 08:00
BoA BUGS v6.0 in Blades of Avernum
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There's a major doomguard in Exodus, and, as I recall, he worked just fine.

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

Kelandon's Pink and Pretty Page!!: the authorized location for all things by me
The Archive of all released BoE scenarios ever
Posts: 7968 | Registered: Saturday, February 28 2004 08:00
All good things must come to an end... in General
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I am baffled and disturbed.

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

Kelandon's Pink and Pretty Page!!: the authorized location for all things by me
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