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Ten in General
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You, sir, are a champion. Congratulations on your tenth post!

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Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

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The Future of Blades of Avernum in Blades of Avernum Editor
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I'm pretty sure that there's no one who fits the two criteria: 1) moderates a board on SW, and 2) has the technical skills and time to work with large amounts of Jeff's code.

It's hard enough to find anyone who meets just 2), without mentioning 1).

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

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Avernum 5 Early, Early Notes in Avernum 4
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Both. Aimee was in the east, and Aydin was in the west.

But Aimee didn't have a tower, I think, and she may have been mentioned in a later Avernum and therefore is accounted for.

[ Monday, December 11, 2006 15:09: Message edited by: Kelandon ]

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

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Geneforge 1 carnisters? in Geneforge Series
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From the needle/ferrets, I can only assume.

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

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Lost Registration Key in Tech Support
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Yeah, Jeff and his wife do most of it. While we don't know for a fact that Jeff's vacation includes his wife, I'd be surprised if not.

Linda may still be around, holding the fort and murdering kittens.

[ Monday, December 11, 2006 08:38: Message edited by: Kelandon ]

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

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How about new BoA scenarios? in Blades of Avernum Editor
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My next project is updating the HLPM, which should happen maybe sometime next week, whenever I have a free day to work on it.

After that, I'd like to spend some time re-writing the docs. I'd also like to make a short scenario, sort of like LP after Bahs, something that takes only a couple of weekends. I have a few ideas what this short scenario could be about, but I'm not sure which idea I'm going to go with at this point.

And eventually, someday, I intend to make the third part of the Slith Homeland trilogy.

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

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So this is goodbye in General
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Oh, he'll be back in full force tomorrow.

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

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Avernum 5 Early, Early Notes in Avernum 4
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quote:
Originally written by Duskwolf:

How about the river blockage to the west of the Mass Teleporter, in the Northern Waters? That looks like a prime candidate for a bit of opening up.
How about it? That's what everyone else in this thread has said, too. :P

There are eight locations in Avernum 1 that have rivers leading off the map:

Two north from the Northern Islands:
IMAGE(http://www.silverchat.com/~silver/Avernum/SmallImages1/NorthernIslandsSmall_Clear.jpg)

North from Lost Bahssikava:
IMAGE(http://www.silverchat.com/~silver/Avernum/SmallImages1/NorthernAvernumSmall_Clear.jpg)

North from Fort Draco:
IMAGE(http://www.silverchat.com/~silver/Avernum/SmallImages1/FortDracoAreaSmall_Clear.jpg)

East from Fort Avernum:
IMAGE(http://www.silverchat.com/~silver/Avernum/SmallImages1/FirstAreaSmall_Clear.jpg)

South from Almaria:
IMAGE(http://www.silverchat.com/~silver/Avernum/SmallImages1/AlmariaSmall_Clear.jpg)

South from Patrick's Tower:
IMAGE(http://www.silverchat.com/~silver/Avernum/SmallImages1/TowerOfPatrickSmall_Clear.jpg)

West from Erika's Tower:
IMAGE(http://www.silverchat.com/~silver/Avernum/SmallImages1/ErikasTowerSmall_Clear.jpg)

Of those, we definitely visited Northern Avernum (by what was Lost Bahssikava), Fort Draco, Fort Avernum, Almaria, and Patrick's Tower in A4.

That leaves the two north from the Northern Islands and the one west of Erika's Tower. I'm not sure that there's any reason to prefer one or the other here.

[ Monday, December 11, 2006 08:23: Message edited by: Kelandon ]

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

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The Future of Blades of Avernum in Blades of Avernum Editor
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KernelKnowledge would be the one to ask about how the bas file works. He did the most work on trying to muck with it.

The issue of a specification did come up once before (in a very unfortunate way), when people more knowledgeable about these subjects than I talked about it.

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

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Hoax? in General
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quote:
Originally written by Student of Trinity:

If they work together enought that you have depth perception, it should be possible.
Depth perception requires surprisingly little optical fidelity, whereas magic eyes require surprisingly high.
quote:
Have you considered a monocle?
Yes. Yes, I have. 0-)

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

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Hoax? in General
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One of my eyes is really nearsighted and the other is basically fine, so they don't work together at all. I think this means that it is physically not possible for me to see them.

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

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Posts: 7968 | Registered: Saturday, February 28 2004 08:00
Avernum 5 Early, Early Notes in Avernum 4
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quote:
Originally written by Arch-Mage Solberg:

About the new route... is it
1. In the Northern Waters going north to new caves?
2. On the river near Erika's Tower going west?
3. On the river near Almaria going south?
4. On the river near Silvar and Fort Avernum going east?

"visited in early games but not Avernum 4" rules out 3 and 4, I believe, although I could be wrong about that. My money is on 1, myself, but only because the basis of the would-be Northern Kingdom series was going to be that very location.

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

Kelandon's Pink and Pretty Page!!: the authorized location for all things by me
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Posts: 7968 | Registered: Saturday, February 28 2004 08:00
The Future of Blades of Avernum in Blades of Avernum Editor
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quote:
Originally written by Dintiradan:

So... basically what everyone wants is a BoA IDE.
Yeah, basically.

If we combined a most of the utilities already present and added a couple new features to each of them, we'd basically have what we need.

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

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I was afraid this day would come.... in General
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I do recall Chaldrath, but I'm not sure if it is from reading the archives or from one of his returns (or one of his returns in the archives).

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

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Avernum 5 Early, Early Notes in Avernum 4
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No, no, because of the summon special spells in Canopy, like Baldev. Oh, never mind. :rolleyes:

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

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Help with stairs... in Blades of Avernum Editor
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quote:
Originally written by pinski_88:

So that line alone made the rest of the script fail?
Any script error makes the whole script fail.

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

Kelandon's Pink and Pretty Page!!: the authorized location for all things by me
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Reviews Received in Blades of Avernum
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quote:
Originally written by Jewel:

I'm not sure how long Exodus is...
Very. :P

quote:
As long as I'm here can I ask you guys what the item number is for invulnerability elixers?
234.

My reviews will be in, er, around the end of the week.

[ Saturday, December 09, 2006 20:00: Message edited by: Kelandon ]

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

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Avernum 5 Early, Early Notes in Avernum 4
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(insert Canopy special spells jokes here)

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

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Posts: 7968 | Registered: Saturday, February 28 2004 08:00
The Future of Blades of Avernum in Blades of Avernum Editor
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I had pretty high hopes for the Remake project, but it seems to have been a phenomenal flop. I wish I could learn to code and just implement a few simple changes myself, but I'm not sure that's at all possible.

You know what would be neat? An added feature in the BoA editor that, when you place a special encounter rectangle, after you specify the number of the state that it should call, pulls up a pre-formatted text-editing box that can be saved directly to the town script as the appropriately numbered state. This couldn't be too hard, and it would partly demystify the scripting process.

And there's a reason why my links page has five links to pages inside Spiderweb; it's not easy to find what you need for BoA on Spiderweb through the Spiderweb site.

[ Saturday, December 09, 2006 17:52: Message edited by: Kelandon ]

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

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The Future of Blades of Avernum in Blades of Avernum Editor
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quote:
Originally written by Spidweb:

I have plans to release the code of Blades of Exile before too long.
You were saving the best news for last, weren't you? This is awesome! Finally!

quote:
Reducing its price to $15 has helped sales, and I am still generating new people to play your scenarios.
Yes, this seems like a good thing. I understand if you wait a while yet before releasing the code. SoT's point, though, is a reasonable one: if Nethergate v2.0 and A5 sell like crazy (and I'd bet on the latter, although I'm not totally sure about the former), you might just at that point be able to give BoA away.

quote:
About the Unhandled Exceptions. I would bet money the situation here is caused by using calls to affect characters/items/whatever that are out of range. (Like setting the level of character -3, or character 220.) Whenever I looked at a scenario with this sort of crash, the problem was accessing something out of range.
Yes, kinda. The problem is that referencing things that are out of range is common to an enormous number of different calls in an enormous number of different situations, sometimes only obscurely. (The clear_town bug comes to mind.) Saying that UEs come when you access things that are out of range is like saying that standard script errors occur when your script has typos: it's true, but it's hard from that alone to tell what the problem is.

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If I have to patch Blades of Avernum to make it work on Vista, I'll also try to tighten the script error checking up a bit.
This would be much appreciated.

And as for Stareye's points: at some point in the not-too-distant future (shortly after the contest, perhaps), I'd like to sit down and see what we, as a community, can do to make the BoA editor easier to learn and use. This is, in a large part, on us.

[ Saturday, December 09, 2006 11:50: Message edited by: Kelandon ]

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

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This, sadly, makes a lot of sense. I think 4 is probably a good thing; between BoA and BoE, we have enough scenario editing capability to satisfy us, I think.

And as for 3, well, I at least understand. I'm not happy about it, but I do understand. Most of the bugs would be difficult to fix or (as in the case of the corescendata and default graphic problems) can be easily fixed by the community itself.

On the other hand, the Unhandled Exceptions are pretty dire: just about every scenario ever made by a Mac-using designer has caused UEs on Windows computers, and they're damn near impossible for designers to track down. I'm not sure that they could be termed "bugs that only affect designers." But we'll make do. Never let it be said that the BoA community is less resilient than the BoE community was, persisting even in the face of mystifying and frustrating bugs.

On a slightly different subject, I've long suspected that BoA didn't sell very well, but I didn't realize that it sold just that poorly. I bet that quite a lot more people bought BoE back in the day, which is much more responsible for the huge variety of scenarios for BoE than anything inherent in the community or whatever.

And knowing that A4 was what you had to do to stay in business makes it make a lot more sense to me. I'm glad that you're getting to be out of financial danger now, anyway, and, as I said in the other thread, I look forward to A5.

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

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8000: Pseudoscience Postravaganza in General
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quote:
Originally written by N-Rays:

the Nancy boys
You're terrible. :P

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

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Avernum 5 Early, Early Notes in Avernum 4
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Towards the end of beta testing, I mentioned that I was glad that Rentar was gone, because she had been a problem in Blades scenarios (people bringing her back to have her final revenge, but the scenarios really sucked). Jeff had this to say: "In canon, she is dead. DEAD DEAD DEAD DEAD DEAD. In Avernum 5, people will talk about how seriously, seriously dead she is."

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

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Sie beissen auf Granit. in Richard White Games
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On nie znam niczego.

Huh. It's been a while. I'm not sure that that's right, but it sounds sorta close.

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

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Avernum 5 Early, Early Notes in Avernum 4
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quote:
Originally written by Spidweb:

The new area is up a certain remote river (visited in early games but not Avernum 4). The obstructions in it were cleared by workers sent by the king to reach new areas for Avernum's growing population.
Good! This is what I was hoping for. I'm glad.
quote:
Originally written by Dikiyoba:

Here's something Dikiyoba is wondering. Dark Waters of A2 and Exodus both follow a river full of waterfalls downstream. How do people ever travel upstream?
Exodus also has a bunch of land routes for backtracking, which you do a fair bit in the scenario (going from Nakhtha back to the first Camp by land, for instance). Presumably merchants during the height of the slith empire would have gone overland bypassed the waterfalls both ways, since going down a waterfall is fine and good for adventurers, but it's not as good for someone laden down with goods for sale and money.

Still, the difficulty of passing helps to explain how the cities lost touch with each other and became independent as the empire collapsed. It's not so easy to get from Thassaka to Vasskolis that it would be inconceivable that the two cities could lose contact.

I assumed in Dark Waters that people didn't travel upstream all that much. It seemed a pretty isolated and difficult passage, and I don't remember if there was any reason to believe that people had ever gone down or up it very frequently.

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

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