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Displayed name	Kelandon
Member number	4045
Title	Off With Their Heads
Postcount	7968
Homepage	http://home.sanbrunocable.com/~tommywatts03/
Registered	Saturday, February 28 2004 08:00

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A thought about the line number "bug". in Blades of Avernum Editor
Kelandon Off With Their Heads Member # 4045	written Sunday, June 27 2004 02:07 Profile Homepage #18 I just sent an e-mail with a scenario attached that demonstrates some instances when BoA will give a line number that is not the source of the problem or will give a kind of bogus error. In summary: 1. When an expression is missing one of its end parentheses, the line number given for the error is the line after the expression. If lines 16 and 17 of your code are then BoA will give an error for line number 17, not 16 where the problem is. 2. If a string is missing end quotes, then the line number will be correct, but the error will say something completely bizarre. If this is your code, starting on line 16 again: then BoA will say something to the effect that you have an improper command Error in line 16. Line 16 doesn't contain the word Error. The problem is that line 16 is missing its end quotes. 3. If a state is not properly break-ed, then the script will keep running and start over at the beginning of the script. If the final lines of your script are: without a break after that, you get something along the lines of an improper command in line 0 or line 1 -- I think I've seen it vary. Those lines are not the problem; the problem is a missing break. All of these errors are easy to recognize once you know what you're looking for, but they were mind-boggling the first time through. -------------------- Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens. Smoo: Get ready to face the walls! Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr. Kelandon's Pink and Pretty Page!!: the authorized location for all things by me The Archive of all released BoE scenarios ever Posts: 7968 \| Registered: Saturday, February 28 2004 08:00
A thought about the line number "bug". in Blades of Avernum
Kelandon Off With Their Heads Member # 4045	written Sunday, June 27 2004 02:07 Profile Homepage #18 I just sent an e-mail with a scenario attached that demonstrates some instances when BoA will give a line number that is not the source of the problem or will give a kind of bogus error. In summary: 1. When an expression is missing one of its end parentheses, the line number given for the error is the line after the expression. If lines 16 and 17 of your code are then BoA will give an error for line number 17, not 16 where the problem is. 2. If a string is missing end quotes, then the line number will be correct, but the error will say something completely bizarre. If this is your code, starting on line 16 again: then BoA will say something to the effect that you have an improper command Error in line 16. Line 16 doesn't contain the word Error. The problem is that line 16 is missing its end quotes. 3. If a state is not properly break-ed, then the script will keep running and start over at the beginning of the script. If the final lines of your script are: without a break after that, you get something along the lines of an improper command in line 0 or line 1 -- I think I've seen it vary. Those lines are not the problem; the problem is a missing break. All of these errors are easy to recognize once you know what you're looking for, but they were mind-boggling the first time through. -------------------- Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens. Smoo: Get ready to face the walls! Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr. Kelandon's Pink and Pretty Page!!: the authorized location for all things by me The Archive of all released BoE scenarios ever Posts: 7968 \| Registered: Saturday, February 28 2004 08:00
I'm back in General
Kelandon Off With Their Heads Member # 4045	written Sunday, June 27 2004 01:45 Profile Homepage #4 I did, and I can't figure out if he's genuinely confused as to Alec's identity -- which I think Alorael alluded to -- or if he's just being wacky. I'm going to assume the latter, but it would've helped if he was, like, funny or something. -------------------- Kelandon's Pink and Pretty Page!! (The home of BoA's HLPM, newly updated to v1.1!) Rate my scenarios! Northern Kingdom 0: Prologue High Level Party Maker Posts: 7968 \| Registered: Saturday, February 28 2004 08:00
I'm back in General
Kelandon Off With Their Heads Member # 4045	written Sunday, June 27 2004 00:57 Profile Homepage #2 post deleted wtf RC [ Sunday, June 27, 2004 01:01: Message edited by: Kelandon ] -------------------- Kelandon's Pink and Pretty Page!! (The home of BoA's HLPM, newly updated to v1.1!) Rate my scenarios! Northern Kingdom 0: Prologue High Level Party Maker Posts: 7968 \| Registered: Saturday, February 28 2004 08:00
Another I'm back topic in General
Kelandon Off With Their Heads Member # 4045	written Sunday, June 27 2004 00:38 Profile Homepage #3 I was just reading over the dark, dark days of pages 31 and 32, a little over a year ago, when two members were Canned and two were Banned, when something like fifteen or twenty topics in a row were locked, and when a handful of oldbies (Djur, Thuryl) posted goodbye topics, and when it looked as though everything at SW was going down the drain in a serious hurry. Yet somehow we survived, and we are seeing much, much brighter days now. Makes me grateful to be alive, or something like that. -------------------- Kelandon's Pink and Pretty Page!! (The home of BoA's HLPM v1.1!) Rate my scenarios! Northern Kingdom 0: Prologue High Level Party Maker Posts: 7968 \| Registered: Saturday, February 28 2004 08:00
New Blades App With Debug Enabled Available in Blades of Avernum Editor
Kelandon Off With Their Heads Member # 4045	written Sunday, June 27 2004 00:15 Profile Homepage #4 If there's any doubt, this was a good thing to do. Thanks, Jeff! -------------------- Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens. Smoo: Get ready to face the walls! Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr. Kelandon's Pink and Pretty Page!!: the authorized location for all things by me The Archive of all released BoE scenarios ever Posts: 7968 \| Registered: Saturday, February 28 2004 08:00
New Blades App With Debug Enabled Available in Blades of Avernum
Kelandon Off With Their Heads Member # 4045	written Sunday, June 27 2004 00:15 Profile Homepage #4 If there's any doubt, this was a good thing to do. Thanks, Jeff! -------------------- Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens. Smoo: Get ready to face the walls! Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr. Kelandon's Pink and Pretty Page!!: the authorized location for all things by me The Archive of all released BoE scenarios ever Posts: 7968 \| Registered: Saturday, February 28 2004 08:00
Zhuu Buxu and Me: Creativity in General
Kelandon Off With Their Heads Member # 4045	written Saturday, June 26 2004 01:26 Profile Homepage #4 Lots and lots of writing. Poetry, short stories, longer stories, one unpublished novel, some scenes and a short play for the theater... yeah. I have also recently taken up designing scenarios for Blades, which I would imagine counts. -------------------- Kelandon's Pink and Pretty Page!! (The home of BoA's HLPM v1.1!) Rate my scenarios! Northern Kingdom 0: Prologue High Level Party Maker Posts: 7968 \| Registered: Saturday, February 28 2004 08:00
BoA Music? in General
Kelandon Off With Their Heads Member # 4045	written Saturday, June 26 2004 01:14 Profile Homepage #10 Fantasy-themed metal. Led Zeppelin, Black Sabbath, Iron Maiden, and Manowar are all good. I just put on the untitled Zeppelin album (also known as IV or Runes) and let it go. Playing BoE, I listened to the music that I had most recently gotten ahold of, which happened to be Duran Duran and the Beatles, so now whenever I see BoE floors, I hear "Rio" and "Eleanor Rigby" and the like playing through my head. This increases my dementia, not my mood, so I have decided to avoid that for BoA. I should NOT post at 3 am. -------------------- Kelandon's Pink and Pretty Page!! (The home of BoA's HLPM, newly updated to v1.1!) Rate my scenarios! Northern Kingdom 0: Prologue High Level Party Maker Posts: 7968 \| Registered: Saturday, February 28 2004 08:00
Internet in General
Kelandon Off With Their Heads Member # 4045	written Saturday, June 26 2004 01:06 Profile Homepage #10 After many phone calls, many menus (although none quite as horrendous as SBC's), and a few frightening experiences later, it appears that I'm going with Earthlink DSL (3000k). It would be interesting to keep this conversation going, though, just to see what other people's experiences have been. -------------------- Kelandon's Pink and Pretty Page!! (The home of BoA's HLPM v1.1!) Rate my scenarios! Northern Kingdom 0: Prologue High Level Party Maker Posts: 7968 \| Registered: Saturday, February 28 2004 08:00
This is so cool in General
Kelandon Off With Their Heads Member # 4045	written Saturday, June 26 2004 01:02 Profile Homepage #28 Hey, why am I not on FBM's hate list? I am insulted. Chaldrath, I recall seeing some old posts by you, so welcome back and stuf. -------------------- Kelandon's Pink and Pretty Page!! (The home of BoA's HLPM v1.1!) Rate my scenarios! Northern Kingdom 0: Prologue High Level Party Maker Posts: 7968 \| Registered: Saturday, February 28 2004 08:00
For those who are interested... in General
Kelandon Off With Their Heads Member # 4045	written Saturday, June 26 2004 00:52 Profile Homepage #7 Good to see you're still around, Cav. FBM: singularity = black hole, for most purposes. Also BSC's native language is Spanish, so we should allow for slightly looser use of English from him than from, say, Brits or Americans or Aussies. -------------------- Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens. Smoo: Get ready to face the walls! Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr. Kelandon's Pink and Pretty Page!!: the authorized location for all things by me The Archive of all released BoE scenarios ever Posts: 7968 \| Registered: Saturday, February 28 2004 08:00
Gainful Employment in General
Kelandon Off With Their Heads Member # 4045	written Saturday, June 26 2004 00:48 Profile Homepage #24 Undergrad in college. Probable Classical Languages major. Physics minor. Pre-law. Hoping that puts me on track to become an Alcritas or a Stareye . -------------------- Kelandon's Pink and Pretty Page!! (The home of BoA's HLPM, newly updated to v1.1!) Rate my scenarios! Northern Kingdom 0: Prologue High Level Party Maker Posts: 7968 \| Registered: Saturday, February 28 2004 08:00
change_outdoor_location in Blades of Avernum Editor
Kelandon Off With Their Heads Member # 4045	written Saturday, June 26 2004 00:34 Profile Homepage #1 Err, I'm not sure that I'm understanding you right, but change_outdoor_location doesn't actually do anything until you leave the town. You won't see any effect from change_outdoor_location until the party walks outside town boundaries. -------------------- Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens. Smoo: Get ready to face the walls! Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr. Kelandon's Pink and Pretty Page!!: the authorized location for all things by me The Archive of all released BoE scenarios ever Posts: 7968 \| Registered: Saturday, February 28 2004 08:00
change_outdoor_location in Blades of Avernum
Kelandon Off With Their Heads Member # 4045	written Saturday, June 26 2004 00:34 Profile Homepage #1 Err, I'm not sure that I'm understanding you right, but change_outdoor_location doesn't actually do anything until you leave the town. You won't see any effect from change_outdoor_location until the party walks outside town boundaries. -------------------- Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens. Smoo: Get ready to face the walls! Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr. Kelandon's Pink and Pretty Page!!: the authorized location for all things by me The Archive of all released BoE scenarios ever Posts: 7968 \| Registered: Saturday, February 28 2004 08:00
State not ended properly in Line 1. in Blades of Avernum Editor
Kelandon Off With Their Heads Member # 4045	written Saturday, June 26 2004 00:31 Profile Homepage #11 If you're curious, the issue is that you never actually run the dialog. Right after you finish adding dialog choices but before you start the ifs, you need a line that says: `choice = run_dialog(1);` Otherwise the variable "choice" isn't set to anything. [ Saturday, June 26, 2004 00:31: Message edited by: Kelandon ] -------------------- Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens. Smoo: Get ready to face the walls! Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr. Kelandon's Pink and Pretty Page!!: the authorized location for all things by me The Archive of all released BoE scenarios ever Posts: 7968 \| Registered: Saturday, February 28 2004 08:00
State not ended properly in Line 1. in Blades of Avernum
Kelandon Off With Their Heads Member # 4045	written Saturday, June 26 2004 00:31 Profile Homepage #11 If you're curious, the issue is that you never actually run the dialog. Right after you finish adding dialog choices but before you start the ifs, you need a line that says: `choice = run_dialog(1);` Otherwise the variable "choice" isn't set to anything. [ Saturday, June 26, 2004 00:31: Message edited by: Kelandon ] -------------------- Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens. Smoo: Get ready to face the walls! Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr. Kelandon's Pink and Pretty Page!!: the authorized location for all things by me The Archive of all released BoE scenarios ever Posts: 7968 \| Registered: Saturday, February 28 2004 08:00
A thought about the line number "bug". in Blades of Avernum Editor
Kelandon Off With Their Heads Member # 4045	written Saturday, June 26 2004 00:24 Profile Homepage #6 Many Mac users use TextEdit to edit text documents. Jeff, at one point you suggested posting a link to the BBEdit site on the SW website somewhere, and I think this is a GREAT idea and should be done ASAP. BoA has certain problems locating the source of an error, but using BBEdit over TextEdit cut my debugging time in half or better. At minimum you should mention somewhere that you use BBEdit and that BBEdit Lite, which is free, is far better than TextEdit for BoA purposes. EDIT: In a day or two, when I have Internet access not in the middle of the night, I will try to send you a few save files with errors that come from semi-bogus line numbers. [ Saturday, June 26, 2004 00:26: Message edited by: Kelandon ] -------------------- Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens. Smoo: Get ready to face the walls! Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr. Kelandon's Pink and Pretty Page!!: the authorized location for all things by me The Archive of all released BoE scenarios ever Posts: 7968 \| Registered: Saturday, February 28 2004 08:00
A thought about the line number "bug". in Blades of Avernum
Kelandon Off With Their Heads Member # 4045	written Saturday, June 26 2004 00:24 Profile Homepage #6 Many Mac users use TextEdit to edit text documents. Jeff, at one point you suggested posting a link to the BBEdit site on the SW website somewhere, and I think this is a GREAT idea and should be done ASAP. BoA has certain problems locating the source of an error, but using BBEdit over TextEdit cut my debugging time in half or better. At minimum you should mention somewhere that you use BBEdit and that BBEdit Lite, which is free, is far better than TextEdit for BoA purposes. EDIT: In a day or two, when I have Internet access not in the middle of the night, I will try to send you a few save files with errors that come from semi-bogus line numbers. [ Saturday, June 26, 2004 00:26: Message edited by: Kelandon ] -------------------- Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens. Smoo: Get ready to face the walls! Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr. Kelandon's Pink and Pretty Page!!: the authorized location for all things by me The Archive of all released BoE scenarios ever Posts: 7968 \| Registered: Saturday, February 28 2004 08:00
War, war, war! in The Exile Trilogy
Kelandon Off With Their Heads Member # 4045	written Thursday, June 24 2004 10:57 Profile Homepage #50 Human with a horse comes riding along, happily pillaging and destroying nephils and sliths alike... dragon swoops out of sky and blasts fire... no more human. He's got a point, there. Mobility is an issue. However, dragons could evade far, far better than any other race. Motrax in A1 claims to have taken down an entire army of sliths when he was in his prime, too, so dragons have a fair amount of firepower. In terms of pure firepower, a few crystal souls could probably handle a dragon, but the crystal souls need to be dragged around by vahnatai, whereas dragons can flee on their own. If the dragons could actually band together, and if there were more than just three or four of them, they'd be tough to beat. Um, the Empire slaughtered almost all of the nephilim on the surface, so I think humans vs. nephils is no contest. -------------------- Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens. Smoo: Get ready to face the walls! Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr. Kelandon's Pink and Pretty Page!!: the authorized location for all things by me The Archive of all released BoE scenarios ever Posts: 7968 \| Registered: Saturday, February 28 2004 08:00
Compare and Contrast in General
Kelandon Off With Their Heads Member # 4045	written Thursday, June 24 2004 09:23 Profile Homepage #7 If you have the money to buy both, buy both, especially if you intend to design. BoE is easier, but BoA isn't too hard to learn, and it is less buggy, more powerful, and still (at the present time) has technical support. -------------------- Kelandon's Pink and Pretty Page!! (The home of BoA's HLPM, newly updated to v1.1!) Rate my scenarios! Northern Kingdom 0: Prologue High Level Party Maker Posts: 7968 \| Registered: Saturday, February 28 2004 08:00
Internet in General
Kelandon Off With Their Heads Member # 4045	written Wednesday, June 23 2004 12:44 Profile Homepage #4 I've been calling around since I posted that, and Earthlink looks like the best offer out of the garbage I've had to wade through so far. Comcast quoted obscene prices at me. The small, local businesses all work for/with SBC, so they all basically charge the same price. I will continue the search online... -------------------- Kelandon's Pink and Pretty Page!! (The home of BoA's HLPM v1.1!) Rate my scenarios! Northern Kingdom 0: Prologue High Level Party Maker Posts: 7968 \| Registered: Saturday, February 28 2004 08:00
Problem 'Unknown command you in line 41' in Blades of Avernum Editor
Kelandon Off With Their Heads Member # 4045	written Wednesday, June 23 2004 10:30 Profile Homepage #10 Should be if (choice == 1) and if (choice == 2) -------------------- Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens. Smoo: Get ready to face the walls! Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr. Kelandon's Pink and Pretty Page!!: the authorized location for all things by me The Archive of all released BoE scenarios ever Posts: 7968 \| Registered: Saturday, February 28 2004 08:00
Problem 'Unknown command you in line 41' in Blades of Avernum
Kelandon Off With Their Heads Member # 4045	written Wednesday, June 23 2004 10:30 Profile Homepage #10 Should be if (choice == 1) and if (choice == 2) -------------------- Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens. Smoo: Get ready to face the walls! Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr. Kelandon's Pink and Pretty Page!!: the authorized location for all things by me The Archive of all released BoE scenarios ever Posts: 7968 \| Registered: Saturday, February 28 2004 08:00
Internet in General
Kelandon Off With Their Heads Member # 4045	written Wednesday, June 23 2004 09:35 Profile Homepage #0 After numerous adventures attempting to get SBC Yahoo! DSL, I have failed. I still don't have Internet access from my computer. I still am stealing someone else's dial-up AOL to post. This means that to anyone to whom I have outstanding obligations to send anything to (Reality Corp is the first one that comes to mind), I won't be able to do it for a little while. In the meantime, I appeal to you. What are your recommendations for good Internet service providers? Probably only Americans should answer this one, because I suspect it is rather different outside the US. I'm wondering about Comcast and other high-speed providers like that. What do you use, and is it good and cheap? Is there anything I shouldn't use? -------------------- Kelandon's Pink and Pretty Page!! (The home of BoA's HLPM v1.1!) Rate my scenarios! Northern Kingdom 0: Prologue High Level Party Maker Posts: 7968 \| Registered: Saturday, February 28 2004 08:00

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