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Displayed name	Kelandon
Member number	4045
Title	Off With Their Heads
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Homepage	http://home.sanbrunocable.com/~tommywatts03/
Registered	Saturday, February 28 2004 08:00

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Problem 'Unknown command you in line 41' in Blades of Avernum Editor
Kelandon Off With Their Heads Member # 4045	written Wednesday, June 23 2004 09:29 Profile Homepage #7 If you're counting lines and you're on a Mac, I'm guessing you're using TextEdit. My first recommendation is to stop using that program. I used to use it, and it took me ten times as long to debug. Get BBEdit Lite. There's a link around here somewhere, and you can just do a search on it, too. Jeff uses BBEdit (the real version, not Lite) and the line numbers match with that. They DON'T match with things like Word, and as far as I know, TextEdit doesn't do line counts. To transfer a text document between TextEdit and BBEdit Lite, you may have to open it up in TextEdit, copy it, and then paste it into BBEdit Lite. Anyway, once you've done that, this looks like a problem with a quotation mark being missing somewhere. I'd look at line 41, and if it contains a string, make sure that the quotes that begin and end it are properly placed. If it doesn't contain a string, or if the quotes are correct, check if it contains the word "you." If it does, a string above it probably doesn't have proper end quotes. Check the strings nearby and above. Beyond that, I don't know. -------------------- Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens. Smoo: Get ready to face the walls! Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr. Kelandon's Pink and Pretty Page!!: the authorized location for all things by me The Archive of all released BoE scenarios ever Posts: 7968 \| Registered: Saturday, February 28 2004 08:00
Problem 'Unknown command you in line 41' in Blades of Avernum
Kelandon Off With Their Heads Member # 4045	written Wednesday, June 23 2004 09:29 Profile Homepage #7 If you're counting lines and you're on a Mac, I'm guessing you're using TextEdit. My first recommendation is to stop using that program. I used to use it, and it took me ten times as long to debug. Get BBEdit Lite. There's a link around here somewhere, and you can just do a search on it, too. Jeff uses BBEdit (the real version, not Lite) and the line numbers match with that. They DON'T match with things like Word, and as far as I know, TextEdit doesn't do line counts. To transfer a text document between TextEdit and BBEdit Lite, you may have to open it up in TextEdit, copy it, and then paste it into BBEdit Lite. Anyway, once you've done that, this looks like a problem with a quotation mark being missing somewhere. I'd look at line 41, and if it contains a string, make sure that the quotes that begin and end it are properly placed. If it doesn't contain a string, or if the quotes are correct, check if it contains the word "you." If it does, a string above it probably doesn't have proper end quotes. Check the strings nearby and above. Beyond that, I don't know. -------------------- Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens. Smoo: Get ready to face the walls! Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr. Kelandon's Pink and Pretty Page!!: the authorized location for all things by me The Archive of all released BoE scenarios ever Posts: 7968 \| Registered: Saturday, February 28 2004 08:00
Is this the end? in General
Kelandon Off With Their Heads Member # 4045	written Wednesday, June 23 2004 09:14 Profile Homepage #19 If the hugeness of the Avernum games was what you liked (and you weren't alone on this, trust me), then you're bound to be disappointed with Blades of Avernum as it stands right now. The game has been out for only a few months. Epics take a looooooooong time to design. I mean, come on, give i a chance to work, now! Really, the prospects of what someone who is a good programmer AND a good storyteller can do with BoA make me drool. We have far more power with the BoA engine than Jeff ever had in the Avernum Trilogy. My suspicion is that however much any BoE scenarios were better than the Exile Trilogy, the BoA scenarios will eventually be at least three or four times that much better than the Avernum Trilogy. Of course, you will have to wait a year or two before several of those scenarios are out. But you'll have short (and soon medium-lenth) stuf to tide you over. If you think the pre-packaged BoA scenarios are any sort of indication of what BoA will be like, I refer you to the other Blades to as evidence that's not even remotely true. -------------------- Kelandon's Pink and Pretty Page!! (The home of BoA's HLPM, newly updated to v1.1!) Rate my scenarios!* Northern Kingdom 0: Prologue High Level Party Maker Posts: 7968 \| Registered: Saturday, February 28 2004 08:00
source code question in Blades of Avernum Editor
Kelandon Off With Their Heads Member # 4045	written Monday, June 21 2004 09:15 Profile Homepage #6 Being able to edit the size and shape of the outdoors after the scenario is first created. That's the first thing that comes to mind. -------------------- Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens. Smoo: Get ready to face the walls! Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr. Kelandon's Pink and Pretty Page!!: the authorized location for all things by me The Archive of all released BoE scenarios ever Posts: 7968 \| Registered: Saturday, February 28 2004 08:00
source code question in Blades of Avernum
Kelandon Off With Their Heads Member # 4045	written Monday, June 21 2004 09:15 Profile Homepage #6 Being able to edit the size and shape of the outdoors after the scenario is first created. That's the first thing that comes to mind. -------------------- Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens. Smoo: Get ready to face the walls! Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr. Kelandon's Pink and Pretty Page!!: the authorized location for all things by me The Archive of all released BoE scenarios ever Posts: 7968 \| Registered: Saturday, February 28 2004 08:00
Scenarios currently being worked on in Blades of Avernum Editor
Kelandon Off With Their Heads Member # 4045	written Monday, June 21 2004 00:12 Profile Homepage #44 Since many (if not most, even) scenarios in BoE take place outside the Exile world, I think you're pretty safe making a BoA scenario outside the Avernum world. (EDIT: As Thuryl said, posting just before me.) BoE is a great buy. There are a sizable number of great scenarios. Anything rated 8.0 or better on the Lyceum is pretty darn good, and anything over 9.0 is awesome. And new ones are coming out all the time! [ Monday, June 21, 2004 00:13: Message edited by: Kelandon ] -------------------- Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens. Smoo: Get ready to face the walls! Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr. Kelandon's Pink and Pretty Page!!: the authorized location for all things by me The Archive of all released BoE scenarios ever Posts: 7968 \| Registered: Saturday, February 28 2004 08:00
Scenarios currently being worked on in Blades of Avernum
Kelandon Off With Their Heads Member # 4045	written Monday, June 21 2004 00:12 Profile Homepage #44 Since many (if not most, even) scenarios in BoE take place outside the Exile world, I think you're pretty safe making a BoA scenario outside the Avernum world. (EDIT: As Thuryl said, posting just before me.) BoE is a great buy. There are a sizable number of great scenarios. Anything rated 8.0 or better on the Lyceum is pretty darn good, and anything over 9.0 is awesome. And new ones are coming out all the time! [ Monday, June 21, 2004 00:13: Message edited by: Kelandon ] -------------------- Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens. Smoo: Get ready to face the walls! Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr. Kelandon's Pink and Pretty Page!!: the authorized location for all things by me The Archive of all released BoE scenarios ever Posts: 7968 \| Registered: Saturday, February 28 2004 08:00
Hi, nice to meet you in General
Kelandon Off With Their Heads Member # 4045	written Monday, June 21 2004 00:03 Profile Homepage #145 Yeah, and her main interest was EV Nova. After a brief search (evidently just over 20 minutes) through the EV Nova forum on the site, I found no trace of her. Ever. Which is kind of peculiar, because I checked the times when she started EV Nova Project X (8/02) and updated it (4/03), and there was nothing on the Nova board about it anywhere near those times. There's nothing recent from her, either there or in the general discussion area. I find no trace that Cavanoskus even existed on those boards, even though she said, "Yes, I play EV Nova. How'd you know? Are you on the Ambrosia boards or did you find that out by looking at my current projects? Nova Project X is soon to receive a massive update, wondering if you saw it in its sad, unfinished state?" Well, I am done stalking her. I'm tempted to register there and post something like, "ATTN CAVANOSKUS: SPIDERWEB MISSES YOU," but that would probably be overkill. EDIT: And MY GOD how they run their site differently. The owner of the company chats with people on the boards and hangs out with them. The maker of EV Nova regularly checks the Nova board and replies to posts, and he even talks about the Nova universe and storyline that he created but didn't make it into the games (for comparison, look at our history topics for Blades). I mean, these people are present on their boards, and they seem fairly well-liked, as opposed to, erm, Jeff and co., who occasionally poke their heads out to say something brief and then resubmerge again. How different a place would this be if JV were actually part of the community, instead of just the head of the company that runs these boards? EDIT 2: I didn't try hard enough. Aran is right: her last post on the EV Nova boards is from 6/3/04. [ Monday, June 21, 2004 00:38: Message edited by: Kelandon ] -------------------- Kelandon's Pink and Pretty Page!! (The home of BoA's HLPM v1.1!) Rate my scenarios! Northern Kingdom 0: Prologue High Level Party Maker Posts: 7968 \| Registered: Saturday, February 28 2004 08:00
Hi, nice to meet you in General
Kelandon Off With Their Heads Member # 4045	written Sunday, June 20 2004 23:37 Profile Homepage #143 Cav seemed like a nice one, too. It is a tragedy when one's hello thread becomes one's goodbye thread, too -- or really a funeral thread, because she never officially left. I shall go hunt for her over on the Ambrosia boards, which I have repeatedly considered joining. I give even odds that I will lose interest and wander over to the Lyceum to read threads from 2002 after about five minutes. -------------------- Kelandon's Pink and Pretty Page!! (The home of BoA's HLPM v1.1!) Rate my scenarios! Northern Kingdom 0: Prologue High Level Party Maker Posts: 7968 \| Registered: Saturday, February 28 2004 08:00
Hello from South America in General
Kelandon Off With Their Heads Member # 4045	written Sunday, June 20 2004 23:14 Profile Homepage #6 I am, in fact, a 600-post newbie. I started playing SW games, uh, shortly after Avernum 1 came out. Then I played Avernum 2, Nethergate, a bit of Blades of Exile, Avernum 3, Geneforge 1, Geneforge 2, in something approaching that order. Then, about four months ago, I made the crazy decision to register for these boards and have apparently been spamming like a wild man ever since. (600 posts? Last time I checked, I had 300-something!) I suppose I should've just asked, have you played Blades (either one)? And if so, allow me to refer you to the Lyceum, home of all things Blades. EDIT: Dear lord, my 666th post. No good can come of this. [ Sunday, June 20, 2004 23:15: Message edited by: Kelandon ] -------------------- Kelandon's Pink and Pretty Page!! (The home of BoA's HLPM, newly updated to v1.1!) Rate my scenarios! Northern Kingdom 0: Prologue High Level Party Maker Posts: 7968 \| Registered: Saturday, February 28 2004 08:00
Hello from South America in General
Kelandon Off With Their Heads Member # 4045	written Sunday, June 20 2004 22:36 Profile Homepage #3 Just as a warning, you have probably been permanently dubbed "BSC" already. You appear to be familiar with most Spiderweb games, and you make sense when you post. This puts you far ahead of the majority of newbies and already makes you good in my opinion. And now, my question that I pose to all newbies who seem worthy of noticing: which SW games have you played (by which I mean registered and finished)? Welcome, and don't become a 5-post nonentity, the fate that awaits most newbies. [ Sunday, June 20, 2004 22:37: Message edited by: Kelandon ] -------------------- Kelandon's Pink and Pretty Page!! (The home of BoA's HLPM, newly updated to v1.1!) Rate my scenarios! Northern Kingdom 0: Prologue High Level Party Maker Posts: 7968 \| Registered: Saturday, February 28 2004 08:00
Well, it's out. in Blades of Avernum
Kelandon Off With Their Heads Member # 4045	written Friday, June 18 2004 21:44 Profile Homepage #3 Oh to have Internet on my computer back! If that dungeon is as Eldiran described when he replied to my beta report and he added a few energy potions, then I think I will like it a great deal. I found it slightly annoying during the beta run-through, I and pulled out every trick I had to regenerate spell points, but if there are a few more energy potions, it should be fine as far as I'm concerned. Yet another thing to do when I get Internet on Monday: play this scenario again. Yay for a third scenario! People were getting kind of antsy. -------------------- Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens. Smoo: Get ready to face the walls! Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr. Kelandon's Pink and Pretty Page!!: the authorized location for all things by me The Archive of all released BoE scenarios ever Posts: 7968 \| Registered: Saturday, February 28 2004 08:00
source code question in Blades of Avernum Editor
Kelandon Off With Their Heads Member # 4045	written Friday, June 18 2004 21:32 Profile Homepage #4 I also meant when the scenario is loaded in BoA, not in the editor. The only string length problem I've had in the editor is the length of script names, which I'm pretty sure is a limit in the app, too. I meant that when I playtest the scenario, the app gives me an error if strings are too long (like text bubble strings, dialog strings, etc). Since these are in the scripts themselves, the editor doesn't check for them at all (nor does it check for the number of boats or horses). The app is the only thing that will give an error related to them. -------------------- Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens. Smoo: Get ready to face the walls! Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr. Kelandon's Pink and Pretty Page!!: the authorized location for all things by me The Archive of all released BoE scenarios ever Posts: 7968 \| Registered: Saturday, February 28 2004 08:00
source code question in Blades of Avernum
Kelandon Off With Their Heads Member # 4045	written Friday, June 18 2004 21:32 Profile Homepage #4 I also meant when the scenario is loaded in BoA, not in the editor. The only string length problem I've had in the editor is the length of script names, which I'm pretty sure is a limit in the app, too. I meant that when I playtest the scenario, the app gives me an error if strings are too long (like text bubble strings, dialog strings, etc). Since these are in the scripts themselves, the editor doesn't check for them at all (nor does it check for the number of boats or horses). The app is the only thing that will give an error related to them. -------------------- Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens. Smoo: Get ready to face the walls! Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr. Kelandon's Pink and Pretty Page!!: the authorized location for all things by me The Archive of all released BoE scenarios ever Posts: 7968 \| Registered: Saturday, February 28 2004 08:00
The World of Avernum in Blades of Avernum
Kelandon Off With Their Heads Member # 4045	written Thursday, June 17 2004 22:50 Profile Homepage #10 I gathered a fair number of history thread links here. -------------------- Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens. Smoo: Get ready to face the walls! Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr. Kelandon's Pink and Pretty Page!!: the authorized location for all things by me The Archive of all released BoE scenarios ever Posts: 7968 \| Registered: Saturday, February 28 2004 08:00
BoA Windows Editor v1.0.2. in Blades of Avernum Editor
Kelandon Off With Their Heads Member # 4045	written Thursday, June 17 2004 22:40 Profile Homepage #3 Read the Tech Support forum. No one can get debug mode to turn on. EDIT: Specifically, http://www.ironycentral.com/cgi-bin/ubb/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=2;t=000505 [ Thursday, June 17, 2004 22:42: Message edited by: Kelandon ] -------------------- Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens. Smoo: Get ready to face the walls! Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr. Kelandon's Pink and Pretty Page!!: the authorized location for all things by me The Archive of all released BoE scenarios ever Posts: 7968 \| Registered: Saturday, February 28 2004 08:00
BoA Windows Editor v1.0.2. in Blades of Avernum
Kelandon Off With Their Heads Member # 4045	written Thursday, June 17 2004 22:40 Profile Homepage #3 Read the Tech Support forum. No one can get debug mode to turn on. EDIT: Specifically, http://www.ironycentral.com/cgi-bin/ubb/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=2;t=000505 [ Thursday, June 17, 2004 22:42: Message edited by: Kelandon ] -------------------- Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens. Smoo: Get ready to face the walls! Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr. Kelandon's Pink and Pretty Page!!: the authorized location for all things by me The Archive of all released BoE scenarios ever Posts: 7968 \| Registered: Saturday, February 28 2004 08:00
Rookie Aboard in Blades of Avernum Editor
Kelandon Off With Their Heads Member # 4045	written Thursday, June 17 2004 22:35 Profile Homepage #10 There are some wonderful calls for checking exactly what the party consists of (like get_level, append_char_name, species_in_party, party_size, etc). You can use these either to enforce your pre-fab party or to make your scenario vary depending on what kind of party is in it. There is a group of Blades players who loathe pre-fab parties, although I don't really understand what the big deal is. One piece of advice for rookies: as you design, read all of the old threads in this forum, especially the articles. Once you're done here, head over to the Lyceum (the link is in the BoA forum's header) and look around there. There's lots of ideas and answered questions lying around. -------------------- Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens. Smoo: Get ready to face the walls! Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr. Kelandon's Pink and Pretty Page!!: the authorized location for all things by me The Archive of all released BoE scenarios ever Posts: 7968 \| Registered: Saturday, February 28 2004 08:00
Rookie Aboard in Blades of Avernum
Kelandon Off With Their Heads Member # 4045	written Thursday, June 17 2004 22:35 Profile Homepage #10 There are some wonderful calls for checking exactly what the party consists of (like get_level, append_char_name, species_in_party, party_size, etc). You can use these either to enforce your pre-fab party or to make your scenario vary depending on what kind of party is in it. There is a group of Blades players who loathe pre-fab parties, although I don't really understand what the big deal is. One piece of advice for rookies: as you design, read all of the old threads in this forum, especially the articles. Once you're done here, head over to the Lyceum (the link is in the BoA forum's header) and look around there. There's lots of ideas and answered questions lying around. -------------------- Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens. Smoo: Get ready to face the walls! Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr. Kelandon's Pink and Pretty Page!!: the authorized location for all things by me The Archive of all released BoE scenarios ever Posts: 7968 \| Registered: Saturday, February 28 2004 08:00
source code question in Blades of Avernum Editor
Kelandon Off With Their Heads Member # 4045	written Thursday, June 17 2004 22:26 Profile Homepage #1 I'm pretty sure string lenth is, because I've gotten errors on virtually every kind of string for having it be too long. These numbers are pretty well-documented in the editor docs, too. -------------------- Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens. Smoo: Get ready to face the walls! Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr. Kelandon's Pink and Pretty Page!!: the authorized location for all things by me The Archive of all released BoE scenarios ever Posts: 7968 \| Registered: Saturday, February 28 2004 08:00
source code question in Blades of Avernum
Kelandon Off With Their Heads Member # 4045	written Thursday, June 17 2004 22:26 Profile Homepage #1 I'm pretty sure string lenth is, because I've gotten errors on virtually every kind of string for having it be too long. These numbers are pretty well-documented in the editor docs, too. -------------------- Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens. Smoo: Get ready to face the walls! Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr. Kelandon's Pink and Pretty Page!!: the authorized location for all things by me The Archive of all released BoE scenarios ever Posts: 7968 \| Registered: Saturday, February 28 2004 08:00
Where are the Vahnatai interior floor tiles? in Blades of Avernum Editor
Kelandon Off With Their Heads Member # 4045	written Thursday, June 17 2004 22:23 Profile Homepage #4 Actually, they just look really funny in the editor, but they're there. Floor number 100 (yes, that ugly grayish thing) is vahnatai floor. -------------------- Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens. Smoo: Get ready to face the walls! Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr. Kelandon's Pink and Pretty Page!!: the authorized location for all things by me The Archive of all released BoE scenarios ever Posts: 7968 \| Registered: Saturday, February 28 2004 08:00
Where are the Vahnatai interior floor tiles? in Blades of Avernum
Kelandon Off With Their Heads Member # 4045	written Thursday, June 17 2004 22:23 Profile Homepage #4 Actually, they just look really funny in the editor, but they're there. Floor number 100 (yes, that ugly grayish thing) is vahnatai floor. -------------------- Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens. Smoo: Get ready to face the walls! Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr. Kelandon's Pink and Pretty Page!!: the authorized location for all things by me The Archive of all released BoE scenarios ever Posts: 7968 \| Registered: Saturday, February 28 2004 08:00
Win BoA and Editor in Tech Support
Kelandon Off With Their Heads Member # 4045	written Thursday, June 17 2004 22:21 Profile Homepage #3 I (a Mac user who has not touched the corescendata files) also experience error 1, although it only occurs in one instance: a character I ran through the HLPM on "god" setting and then used the Character Editor to max out his stats. It is kind of annoying, but I deserve it for having done something as ridiculous as that. Still, the engine seems less than robust without STATED maximum values for things. My first guesses for those "god" items were way off, and I had some pretty bizarre numbers coming up. Has anyone else noticed that if you do more than 1000 damage, BoA only displays the last three digits of the amount of damage that you did? Meh, these were things that I found bothersome, but as they didn't interfere with any sort of normal gameplay (I was using this character for debugging), I didn't feel the need to mention it. Now that it's come up, though, yeah, I've seen these things too. -------------------- Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens. Smoo: Get ready to face the walls! Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr. Kelandon's Pink and Pretty Page!!: the authorized location for all things by me The Archive of all released BoE scenarios ever Posts: 7968 \| Registered: Saturday, February 28 2004 08:00
Dialog help needed in Blades of Avernum Editor
Kelandon Off With Their Heads Member # 4045	written Wednesday, June 16 2004 16:28 Profile Homepage #1 I have no idea what that error is or what it means, but I can think of some things that could be wrong. Try this: Numbering on text starts over at each node, so each one will have a text1. No break call necessary at any point. Not sure that a condition definition is necessary for each of these, but Jeff uses them for every node, so you might as well, too. [ Wednesday, June 16, 2004 16:29: Message edited by: Kelandon ] -------------------- Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens. Smoo: Get ready to face the walls! Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr. Kelandon's Pink and Pretty Page!!: the authorized location for all things by me The Archive of all released BoE scenarios ever Posts: 7968 \| Registered: Saturday, February 28 2004 08:00

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