War, war, war!
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Off With Their Heads
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written Thursday, June 24 2004 10:57
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Human with a horse comes riding along, happily pillaging and destroying nephils and sliths alike... dragon swoops out of sky and blasts fire... no more human. He's got a point, there. Mobility is an issue. However, dragons could evade far, far better than any other race. Motrax in A1 claims to have taken down an entire army of sliths when he was in his prime, too, so dragons have a fair amount of firepower. In terms of pure firepower, a few crystal souls could probably handle a dragon, but the crystal souls need to be dragged around by vahnatai, whereas dragons can flee on their own. If the dragons could actually band together, and if there were more than just three or four of them, they'd be tough to beat. Um, the Empire slaughtered almost all of the nephilim on the surface, so I think humans vs. nephils is no contest. -------------------- Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens. Smoo: Get ready to face the walls! Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr. Kelandon's Pink and Pretty Page!!: the authorized location for all things by me The Archive of all released BoE scenarios ever Posts: 7968 | Registered: Saturday, February 28 2004 08:00 |
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Warrior
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written Thursday, June 24 2004 11:13
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quote:When you are riding along on your horse, the enemies can still hurt you. In fact, you can't even enter combat to fight back! Horse-hide armor would be impossible to make, because horses are invulnerable, invincible, indestructible, and impenetrable. How would they get the hide off the horse? -------------------- Creator of the 3D Blades of Avernum Editor for Mac. Get it at Ingenious Isaac's Illusion, my web page. Better yet, get Battle for Wesnoth, a wonderful free TBS game. Posts: 192 | Registered: Sunday, April 4 2004 08:00 |
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Shock Trooper
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written Thursday, June 24 2004 11:40
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The Exiles would win, because they seem to have an overabundance of heroic four/six man armies. Posts: 269 | Registered: Saturday, May 24 2003 07:00 |
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Law Bringer
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written Thursday, June 24 2004 13:08
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Actually, all the horses are ridden by those same small bands of adventurers, which are just as likely to be composed of sliths or nephils as humans. The vahnatai and humans also have disproportionate numbers of instant-death nodes/scripts, which gives them an undeniable edge. —Alorael, who is sure some enterprising mage could find a way to create a mobile death script. Then let other races beware! Posts: 14579 | Registered: Saturday, December 1 2001 08:00 |
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...b10010b...
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written Friday, June 25 2004 04:27
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quote:As Alec once pointed out, if the number of times the average player reloads is anything to go by, Exile is littered with the bodies of would-be heroes. :P Posts: 9973 | Registered: Saturday, March 30 2002 08:00 |
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Lifecrafter
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written Friday, June 25 2004 04:35
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The humans could all hide in a cave protected from magical scrying devices, with an script/node of instantaneous death against non-humans and human betrayers at the entrance. They could wait in that cave until all the battles are over, then come out hiding behind horses and attack the last remaining race while they're still weak from the battles. They could also magically engineer horses to shed their indestructible hide for use as armor, and place instant death node/scripts on their arrows and swords. Also, Kelandon, my point wasn't mobility. It was that humans have access to a material that is indestructible and that they could use that to their advantage. [ Friday, June 25, 2004 06:41: Message edited by: Eldibs ] -------------------- "We can learn a lot from crayons. Some are short, some are dull, some are sharp, some are tall. Some have funny names and they are all different colors, but they all learn to live in the same box." "Happy is the man that has wisdom and gets discernment. For having wisdom as gain is better than having silver as gain and having wisdom as produce is better than gold itself" Proverbs 3:14-3:15 The horrible part about life is, you'll never get out of it alive. Currently boycotting: AngelFire, GameFAQ's, Macintosh PC's Posts: 818 | Registered: Tuesday, July 9 2002 07:00 |
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Lifecrafter
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written Saturday, June 26 2004 02:32
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Yes yes, but the Anamas would still prevail. Sure, they would probably all get killed and so, but in heaven they would earn their reward and be made lords over everything and so on. Such are the rewards of those who die for their fate. EDIT: And on Judgement Day, their god would step down and kick the ass of demons, dragons and horses alike. So there. [ Saturday, June 26, 2004 02:36: Message edited by: Saltweed ] -------------------- Mow down the sexy people. Posts: 756 | Registered: Monday, August 4 2003 07:00 |
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Warrior
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written Saturday, June 26 2004 04:18
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^as if...... it is impossible to MAKE a horse.and you can't fight on one.Arrows fired from behind dumb stupid horses would hit the horses. Plus my sliths/neilphim ride horses daily :D so I invited you to.... KISS MY ASS!!!!!!(or my wand) :P -------------------- Custer is the worlds biggest noob Custer is the worlds biggest noob Custer is the worlds biggest noob Posts: 54 | Registered: Thursday, April 15 2004 07:00 |
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Shock Trooper
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written Saturday, June 26 2004 04:33
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quote:Also, the Exiles/Avernites seem to have mastered a form of control over space and time, using the dark arts of Savefiles, and the artifact called the Character Editor. This gives them the edge. Also, if Exile/Avernite heros don't move, no one else can. Posts: 269 | Registered: Saturday, May 24 2003 07:00 |
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Warrior
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written Sunday, June 27 2004 02:17
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^stupid moron :mad: how about all races v exiles? they would lose :D :D and put a virus in the editor and saved games! :P ;) :D :rolleyes: :cool: -------------------- Custer is the worlds biggest noob Custer is the worlds biggest noob Custer is the worlds biggest noob Posts: 54 | Registered: Thursday, April 15 2004 07:00 |
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Off With Their Heads
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written Sunday, June 27 2004 02:28
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Mr dont tuch me i am 2 saxy makes such well-reasoned points. And now, reading over Eldibs post, I see that he is correct. Well, if your point wasn't mobility, it should've been :P . Let's say the Exiles/Avernites get three adventuring parties. One is controlled by Thuryl, one by the Creator, and one by Imban. Within days, the armies of all the other races put together would be dead and dying. Their last words? "We've never SEEN such tactics!!" -------------------- Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens. Smoo: Get ready to face the walls! Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr. Kelandon's Pink and Pretty Page!!: the authorized location for all things by me The Archive of all released BoE scenarios ever Posts: 7968 | Registered: Saturday, February 28 2004 08:00 |
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Lifecrafter
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written Sunday, June 27 2004 21:45
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Hmm. I think the more likely answer is: "We've never SEEN everything going black after killing the party and something transporting us and them back to the past and having the party battle against us over and over again until they finally win unfairly with the help of the editor." That's how I picture hell, by the way. Save the Exile graphics. -------------------- Mow down the sexy people. Posts: 756 | Registered: Monday, August 4 2003 07:00 |
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Lifecrafter
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written Monday, June 28 2004 04:32
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quote:You don't just stand behind the horse and shoot the arrows, you arch them over the horses. And you use an arrow of 100% accuracy with an instant death node/script placed on it. And I never said anything about fighting ON a horse. Just behind them. Your sliths/nephilims count as exiles because they are bossed around by them. quote:The races of the exile series don't have the technology to put viruses in anything. And besides, the virus would spread to the game itself and then there would be no humans, vanhatai (hope I spelled that right), dragons, etc. And yes, the adventuring parties with control over space/time with the character editor and savegames would give the exiles a tactical advantage. They could just keep coming back until they won the battle. I win! [ Tuesday, June 29, 2004 09:11: Message edited by: Eldibs ] -------------------- "We can learn a lot from crayons. Some are short, some are dull, some are sharp, some are tall. Some have funny names and they are all different colors, but they all learn to live in the same box." "Happy is the man that has wisdom and gets discernment. For having wisdom as gain is better than having silver as gain and having wisdom as produce is better than gold itself" Proverbs 3:14-3:15 The horrible part about life is, you'll never get out of it alive. Currently boycotting: AngelFire, GameFAQ's, Macintosh PC's Posts: 818 | Registered: Tuesday, July 9 2002 07:00 |
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Warrior
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written Wednesday, June 30 2004 06:09
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^STFU :mad: my sliths are NOT bossed around by gay exiles instant death things?will never exist.the game would be to F word easy arcing the arrows over horses?thos wouldn't hit the emeny.they'd fly like 1cm virus?yes this virus would make it so everytime some one loads in a game or saves the game or uses the gay editor 999999999999999999999999 alien beasts appear ;) (and the saved game/editor wouldn't work) HA I WIN DUDE :D ;) :cool: [ Wednesday, June 30, 2004 06:10: Message edited by: Lord V ] -------------------- Custer is the worlds biggest noob Custer is the worlds biggest noob Custer is the worlds biggest noob Posts: 54 | Registered: Thursday, April 15 2004 07:00 |
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Shake Before Using
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written Wednesday, June 30 2004 06:41
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Saltweed - Sure, I reload a lot when I fight something typically way out of my league... (see : playing Bandits 2 with a level-4 party) ...but I rarely touch the character editor (usually only to get through 'level check's in scenarios where the player is dealt unavoidable multi-bang damage of more than my HP) and typically do 70% of my reloads when just one member of my 6-man party dies - I'm sort of perfectionist about that. In any case, once my party gets out of being level 1-5, there are very few things that force reloads upon me. Perhaps if I got sucker-punched by a basilisk... Lord V - eh calm down Posts: 3234 | Registered: Thursday, October 4 2001 07:00 |
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Shaper
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written Wednesday, June 30 2004 07:56
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Voldemort, why do you think that shooting from behind something limits your range? The highest range of any projectile (give or take for wind) is attained when it is shot at 45 degrees above the horizontal. At that angle, you'll clear a horse from anywhere above half a meter behind it. It's when you shoot horizontally, as you seem to want to do, that the arrow goes almost no distance. Also, the game does contain instant death nodes. Several people are apparently able to create them, including Erika. And who is going to be creating this virus? Which race is advanced enough to reprogram not just their reality but the operating system their reality exists in? Oh yes, none of them. -E- -------------------- Let them eat cake! Posts: 2314 | Registered: Tuesday, January 15 2002 08:00 |
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Off With Their Heads
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written Wednesday, June 30 2004 10:03
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This guy will always be Mr. Sax to me, because of the fun I can have with that name. Mr ooo ooo rub my saxy body, while your sliths may not be bossed around by the gay Exiles (of which there are a few, Elspeth and Nance being the two that come to mind), I rather think that the rest might have a chance. And I don't know where you got the gay Character Editor, but the regular one will do just fine, too. I am, of course, assuming that you meant the word "gay" literally. If you meant it as a pejorative, then you are a prejudiced fool, and you are part of a mindset that has tortured millions of human beings needlessly over the course of history, which of course would be something I would never believe of someone as soft-spoken, kind, and gentle as yourself. Therefore, I must assume that you meant the word literally. -------------------- Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens. Smoo: Get ready to face the walls! Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr. Kelandon's Pink and Pretty Page!!: the authorized location for all things by me The Archive of all released BoE scenarios ever Posts: 7968 | Registered: Saturday, February 28 2004 08:00 |
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Shock Trooper
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written Wednesday, June 30 2004 11:00
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Gay also meant happy back in the old days...that is, until somebody used it for what it is now meaning. If I haven't said this yet, the true winner shall be the hax0r editor or even a nice decompiler. Both can manipulate the game greatly. -------------------- ♫ The truth is screaming BIG ♫ ♫ A light so bright ♫ ♫ Whether day or night ♫ ♫ It can't be hid ♫ § realitycorp@gmail.com § ►► Chance is back online! ◄◄ Posts: 245 | Registered: Tuesday, February 17 2004 08:00 |
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Law Bringer
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written Wednesday, June 30 2004 13:29
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Neither are present in Exile, as so many have pointed out. I'm afraid the death node wins, and the humans (Exile and Empire) and vahnatai are the only ones who have them. Sliths, however, can make impenetrable barriers as in Lost Bahssikava. Vahnatai are even more skilled with their barriers. Humans are mostly restricted to building a better force barrier. —Alorael, who still doesn't think that saying that all adventuring parties join the Exiles is fair or accurate. He can say with some assurance that his parties would play favorites, and the humans wouldn't be one of them. Posts: 14579 | Registered: Saturday, December 1 2001 08:00 |
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Bob's Big Date
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written Wednesday, June 30 2004 13:41
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Lord V is too stupid to live. -------------------- The biggest, the baddest, and the fattest. Posts: 2367 | Registered: Friday, June 27 2003 07:00 |
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Warrior
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written Saturday, July 3 2004 00:53
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^no you are you fag -imban:fun you can have with that name?hmmmm....... -imbandon?:oh shut up fag death nodes?all attempts to make one have failed.mages are just people who get drunk,try to do magic and end up setting fire to themselves! and hiding behind horses and firing would not work.the emeny could just stay out of range. so alien beasts would win f word f word asses [ Saturday, July 03, 2004 01:04: Message edited by: Custer is the worlds biggest noob ] -------------------- Custer is the worlds biggest noob Custer is the worlds biggest noob Custer is the worlds biggest noob Posts: 54 | Registered: Thursday, April 15 2004 07:00 |
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Agent
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written Saturday, July 3 2004 01:42
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Has this now turned into a rent-a-mod board? Or can we all just slap the kid? Posts: 1487 | Registered: Sunday, February 10 2002 08:00 |
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Lifecrafter
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written Saturday, July 3 2004 05:17
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Oh my god! Oh my god! This is possibly the funniest thing I've ever seen on the Exile boards! I am, of course, speaking of the conversation held between Alec and Lord V (currently known as Custer is the worlds biggest noob) Please let him live, mods? For the sake of humour! -------------------- Mow down the sexy people. Posts: 756 | Registered: Monday, August 4 2003 07:00 |
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Warrior
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written Saturday, July 3 2004 08:54
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*sees saltweeds post and faints* -------------------- Custer is the worlds biggest noob Custer is the worlds biggest noob Custer is the worlds biggest noob Posts: 54 | Registered: Thursday, April 15 2004 07:00 |
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Law Bringer
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written Saturday, July 3 2004 09:11
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Behold, the Inflatable Moderator appears! Lord V, you have just taken the Code of Conduct, spat upon it, and kicked it for good measure. Recant and repent or bad things will happen. In other words, don't use homophobic language or semi-profanity. If this degenerates into a flame war, I will be sorely disappointed. —Alorael, who was actually enjoying the topic. You know, horses aren't much of a solution to the problem. Only the few bands of humans, nephils, and sliths can get them to move in any way. It's not possible to have an entire army use them as barricades. Posts: 14579 | Registered: Saturday, December 1 2001 08:00 |