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Originally written by Suspicious Vlish:

The Shapers still lack the ability to negotiate with the resistance. Perhaps if they had a 'sit-down' with the humans, Drayks, Drakons, and Eyebeasts, then perhaps they could come to a compromise. At the worst, they could attempt to negotiate a truce.[/QB]

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Originally written by Suspicious Vlish:

If that indeed is true, then the Rebellion is achieving its goal, isn't it? If extreme violence forces the Shapers to rethink their attitudes towards non-Shapers, then resistance has been successful.[/QB]

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Originally written by Suspicious Vlish:

Quite simply, merely because civilization X is more orderly than civilization Y does mean that it is preferable to civilization Y.

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If the Shaper regime were to grant autonomy to serviles, allow Drayks and Drakons to exist, and allow ordinary humans to have a say in the regulation of Shaping and magic, it's reasonable to assume that most popular support for the Rebellion would bleed away in a microsecond.

The fact that the Shapers won't do this is very telling. Quite simply, they are a war-like sect which enforces its whim with violence, oppression, and a monopoly of the Shaping arts.

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The Drakons don't bring peace. Wow, what a surprise, given that they are under constant threat of extermination. What do you expect them to do... lie down and die, so that 'peace' can reign in the Shaper empire?

That's the most god damn ridiculous thing I've ever heard. Perhaps countries under Nazi occupation should have laid down their arms, in the interest of maintaining 'peace'.

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If someone first created me, enslaved me, and then targeted me for extermination, I would use any means necessary to save my own life, and that of my race.

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Originally written by Suspicious Vlish:

A left hander in the early 1900's would have been inferior to a right hander, because all of the utilities were crafted with right handers in mind?

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Originally written by Lord Safey:

If I made such a claim about the US ya'll flame me off the forums.

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Originally written by -silver-:

This thread now falls under http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin's_law.[/url] two or three times.

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Originally Wikipedia: Godwin's Law
Godwin's Law does not apply to discussions directly addressing genocide, propaganda or other mainstays of the Nazi regime.

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Originally written by Emperor Tullegolar:

Imagine what some huge company with a bottomless pocketbook and teams of designers could do with it.

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Originally written by Sir Spiff:

I always thought Glaahks were supposed to double as mounts. They look ridable to me.

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But think of their attack routine.

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Originally written by Suspicious Vlish:

And remember, if even ONE enemy manages to resist your spell, your infilitrator is dead the next turn (assume we are playing on Torment).

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