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Poor Man's Starbound? in Richard White Games
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 written Sunday, March 27 2005 00:39 Profile #51
For the Mac. . . not many, unfortunately.

Spaceward Ho!, but that's already been said.

Ambrosia is mostly a Mac company, so Escape Velocity as well as their older games are all Mac oriented.

Universe II is for Mac (it's very old), as well as Starflight (I and II, I think. One of them definitely was) These games can be found in places dedicated for Mac abandonware.

Master of Orion III also exists for the Mac.

The others are PC.

I don't know of any other modern Space games for the Mac. Unfortunately I made the move to PC back in '99 because I wanted to have more gaming options.

Sorry I couldn't have been of more help.

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"I suffer from spiritual malaise," said Cugel meaningfully. "which manifest itself in outburst of vicious rage. I implore you to depart, lest, in an uncontrollable spasm, I cut you in three pieces with my sword, or worse, I invoke magic."
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Poor Man's Starbound? in General
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 written Sunday, March 27 2005 00:39 Profile #51
For the Mac. . . not many, unfortunately.

Spaceward Ho!, but that's already been said.

Ambrosia is mostly a Mac company, so Escape Velocity as well as their older games are all Mac oriented.

Universe II is for Mac (it's very old), as well as Starflight (I and II, I think. One of them definitely was) These games can be found in places dedicated for Mac abandonware.

Master of Orion III also exists for the Mac.

The others are PC.

I don't know of any other modern Space games for the Mac. Unfortunately I made the move to PC back in '99 because I wanted to have more gaming options.

Sorry I couldn't have been of more help.

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"I suffer from spiritual malaise," said Cugel meaningfully. "which manifest itself in outburst of vicious rage. I implore you to depart, lest, in an uncontrollable spasm, I cut you in three pieces with my sword, or worse, I invoke magic."
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A Exile-based Roguelike? in General
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 written Saturday, March 26 2005 10:16 Profile #1
Can you do it?

I agree that it would look nice (have you played Dungeon of Doom for the Mac, it might look a little like that one)

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"I suffer from spiritual malaise," said Cugel meaningfully. "which manifest itself in outburst of vicious rage. I implore you to depart, lest, in an uncontrollable spasm, I cut you in three pieces with my sword, or worse, I invoke magic."
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 written Saturday, March 26 2005 10:14 Profile #10
We use gas lamps over here. There was a law a few years back and all light bulbs were confiscated (I don't know what they did with them but I'm sure it was for nefarious purposes). Gas lamps are, I think, all right. At first there were some fires throughout the country as people were not used to handling them, but not any more.

I heard that, as a way to modernized the country and improve the world economy we are beginning to manufacture (for latter home and all purpose use) those bright things they use at some discos.

I tried to change a lightbulb once, but through some freaky series of events, it ended up being welded to my hand, which was then amputated.

Hope your experiences are nicer.

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"I suffer from spiritual malaise," said Cugel meaningfully. "which manifest itself in outburst of vicious rage. I implore you to depart, lest, in an uncontrollable spasm, I cut you in three pieces with my sword, or worse, I invoke magic."
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A2 - Derlin-Bok's tomb - a madman's curse for players. in The Avernum Trilogy
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 written Saturday, March 26 2005 10:01 Profile #1
I don't remember why they changed.

The ones that you have to flip are the ones hidden in the NW and the SE corners. Don't mess with the other two corners. (maybe that's why they kept resetting thsemvels?)

Good luck.

(BTW, he's one tough banana, are you ready for him?)

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"I suffer from spiritual malaise," said Cugel meaningfully. "which manifest itself in outburst of vicious rage. I implore you to depart, lest, in an uncontrollable spasm, I cut you in three pieces with my sword, or worse, I invoke magic."
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Poll with a poll: survivors in Geneforge Series
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 written Saturday, March 26 2005 09:55 Profile #6
"Krispos of Videssos" trilogy is fantastic, among my favorites of his books. I had mixed feelings towards Guns of the South. I think partly because I read it sandwhiched between two other similar, if slightly, novels. One by Harry Harrison and the other by S.M. Stirling. The in GoS of the time machine, how it was used and by whom, I liked (it gave me a pulp feeling, or saturday matinee) but the story itself bored me, I got tired of the characters too fast. But as I said I think it was from too much alternate history books at once.

On the other hand, I read the first book of the Darkness series and enjoy it. However, I'm a little weary because so far there seem to be. . . five or six books. I sometimes worry when a writer writes too much. So far the ones I've enjoyed more from him have been the ones with a Byzantium flavor, but that's also because I'm biased towards the subject.

There's a trilogy by Harry Harrison that I enjoyed quite a bit--well, I had some problems with the third book, but that's another story. It was written by him and John Holm (who, btw, ghost wrote "West of Eden" since Harrison's health didn't allow him to do so) called "the Hammer and the Cross" trilogy. The agent that produces this shift in history is a letter that never arrives. The first book is almost told in seriealized manner as the main character goes up in social/political ranks. The second one is wonderful "tour" through Scandinavia borrowing from many classic poems. The third takes place in Iberia.

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"I suffer from spiritual malaise," said Cugel meaningfully. "which manifest itself in outburst of vicious rage. I implore you to depart, lest, in an uncontrollable spasm, I cut you in three pieces with my sword, or worse, I invoke magic."
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 written Friday, March 25 2005 22:14 Profile #109
Yes, thank you both Ash Lael and Creator. I understand more where you two come from.

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"I suffer from spiritual malaise," said Cugel meaningfully. "which manifest itself in outburst of vicious rage. I implore you to depart, lest, in an uncontrollable spasm, I cut you in three pieces with my sword, or worse, I invoke magic."
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No male agent graphic ? in Geneforge Series
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 written Friday, March 25 2005 20:42 Profile #4
No offense, but it was funny to see that a person who joined in March of 2005 is calling another who joined in March of 2005 a n00b. :)

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"I suffer from spiritual malaise," said Cugel meaningfully. "which manifest itself in outburst of vicious rage. I implore you to depart, lest, in an uncontrollable spasm, I cut you in three pieces with my sword, or worse, I invoke magic."
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Stuff you've noticed - possible SPOILERS in Geneforge Series
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 written Friday, March 25 2005 20:40 Profile #1
In this screenshot you can see a new boss.

I wonder if that green stuff to which he is. . . melded? merged? part of him? might be a energy crystal or some such thing. He is being powered by, or at least at the intersection of four different power points. What is it, though? It almost look like a Thad, but I doubt it's that. Not a servant mind either. Or maybe it is a Thad that merge itself with a crystal in order to acquire more energy.

There's a women called Litalia who's a traitor and we may join her at some point. She speaks of the destruction of your (our?) school and how this is not an isolated incicident, but will spread everywhere. Why did she leave the Shapers? What hwas her betrayal? How does this connect with the events in the previous GF games, if at all?

I like the new choices, character wise. More genders, it seems, and now you can use bracelets and necklaces (you couldn't in GF2, right?)

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"I suffer from spiritual malaise," said Cugel meaningfully. "which manifest itself in outburst of vicious rage. I implore you to depart, lest, in an uncontrollable spasm, I cut you in three pieces with my sword, or worse, I invoke magic."
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New Abortion Laws in General
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 written Friday, March 25 2005 20:31 Profile #105
Thanks, Creator.

I think that sexual education will be a good thing. However, sometimes people end up getting pregnant without wanting to, and having taken all the necessary precautions. Although it may sound shallow to say this, should those women give birth? What if they can't raise the child properly at that time? I understand the point of view of pro lifers, but sometimes it seems to be too radical: no abortion under any circumstance, period. What should a woman who is under such circumstances, or others, do? Give the baby to adoption or just swallow up her complaints and raise him/her? If the baby goes to adoption, that would be taking the baby away from a family (which may or many not be a good thing) And if the mother has to raise a kid without the ability, at the moment to do so, then what? She should just do so and that's it?

I understand the fear that some may have that making this legal may turn into rampart sex without care, but that already exists in some people. I've posted this elsewhere, but I've stumbled upon women who wants to have sex without any protection, claiming to be on the pill, which may or may not be true but for me it's a risk I'm not willing to take.

Do you think that, perhaps, with adecuate programs that instruct people and a good moral base we can make abortion legal, or will be it a moot point under those circumstances? On the other hand this kind of solution may be so distant, if even possible as to make it obsolete.

A problem I have is that even if you close down all doctors who practice illegal abortions, that still will not keep them from doing them. Or from people to try to find, in desperation, other methods that will be far more dangerous for, not only the fetus, but also the mother.

I wonder if this compromise is even possible: making abortion legal, so that it can be properly if it needs to be done. Offering sexual education to people. Showing them the result of abortions and informing them on this procedure/results might result in people being more careful. Also, perhaps providing anti-contraceptives so that people can easily acquire them and use them. In this country, at least, many of the problems with abortion happen in some of the poorer areas, distributing condoms in those areas might not be a bad idea--though it may sound difficult, since the population there is quite big.

A problem that I see is that this seems to be a no win scenario. It seems unlikely that we will ever avoid abortion, and if no doctor can execute it properly, I think that in the long run we are doing more wrong than good.

I didn't mean it as a conspiracy. I sometimes do think that politicians use the matter of pro-life and pro-choice as banners for their campaigns, but that's about it as far as that goes.

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"I suffer from spiritual malaise," said Cugel meaningfully. "which manifest itself in outburst of vicious rage. I implore you to depart, lest, in an uncontrollable spasm, I cut you in three pieces with my sword, or worse, I invoke magic."
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Female Guardian Graphics? in Geneforge Series
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 written Friday, March 25 2005 19:47 Profile #4
Kind of sort of in topic but not really:

Why can Agents change their colors? Is this a dye? Is this part of whatever training or thingy that they undergo when they become Agents?

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"I suffer from spiritual malaise," said Cugel meaningfully. "which manifest itself in outburst of vicious rage. I implore you to depart, lest, in an uncontrollable spasm, I cut you in three pieces with my sword, or worse, I invoke magic."
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Beside waiting for GF3 what will you do during spring break? in Geneforge Series
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 written Friday, March 25 2005 19:45 Profile #9
We have no Spring Break here. Universities have different schedules too. Some are trimersters, some are semesters, some go the whole year long. The closes you get to a spirng break here is the time in between trimesters, if you go that Uni, or Holy Week which is happening now as I write this.

I work as a teacher (the horror! be thankful you'll never be one of my students :P ) and this was it as far as vacation.

I did nothing. I had a birthday on Tuesday, saw three films, and played GF1. That's the extend of my exciting week :)

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"I suffer from spiritual malaise," said Cugel meaningfully. "which manifest itself in outburst of vicious rage. I implore you to depart, lest, in an uncontrollable spasm, I cut you in three pieces with my sword, or worse, I invoke magic."
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How Long Must We Endure This Interminable Wait?!? in Geneforge Series
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 written Friday, March 25 2005 19:42 Profile #40
Not me, man. I live far from Ohio, but I like the Pretenders song about as well as Neil Young's if that's any consolation. And I've known a couple of people who spent time there. I've also driven through the state. But that's as close as my contact with Ohio gets. Sorry.

Next week it is, then. I was hoping for a weekend thingy, but week day works just as fine.

Man, the screenshots look cool indeed. I love the way the island looks. And the fact that we have some islands will make the game, I think, flow more nicely than the other two (though I liked them too).

I also noticed there are new graphics for the areas, I mean the little square thingies on the island.

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"I suffer from spiritual malaise," said Cugel meaningfully. "which manifest itself in outburst of vicious rage. I implore you to depart, lest, in an uncontrollable spasm, I cut you in three pieces with my sword, or worse, I invoke magic."
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What is your favorite spells in this games? in Nethergate
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 written Friday, March 25 2005 19:34 Profile #1
Raise Dead. All big blessing spells. Total Healing.

I hardly ever summon anything in games where I'm not playing a singleton, and even in those only rarely.

Spells that inflict heavy damage on multiple enemies. Heartshock, but tended to fail more often than not.

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"I suffer from spiritual malaise," said Cugel meaningfully. "which manifest itself in outburst of vicious rage. I implore you to depart, lest, in an uncontrollable spasm, I cut you in three pieces with my sword, or worse, I invoke magic."
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New Abortion Laws in General
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 written Friday, March 25 2005 19:30 Profile #100
I have some questions (perhaps towards the anti-abortionists, or whoever wants to address them)

What will you do about the abortions that are done illegally? How will you stop them?

How do you plan to prevent women from ever aborting? What are the plans going on to that effect, in whatever country you happen to live?

Fine if you want to forbid something, but shouldn't you be trying to eradicate the reason that is making these women abort? Why are they doing it?

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"I suffer from spiritual malaise," said Cugel meaningfully. "which manifest itself in outburst of vicious rage. I implore you to depart, lest, in an uncontrollable spasm, I cut you in three pieces with my sword, or worse, I invoke magic."
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¿Newbie? in General
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 written Friday, March 25 2005 18:57 Profile #12
GOT: for the question mark. Do you use Windows? If so: go to the keyboard thingy in the Control Panel. Choose Spanish (other languages help, but I only know this works in Spanish). Once you change the language to Spanish in your task bar, try: Shift 8, and you should get this ¿

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"I suffer from spiritual malaise," said Cugel meaningfully. "which manifest itself in outburst of vicious rage. I implore you to depart, lest, in an uncontrollable spasm, I cut you in three pieces with my sword, or worse, I invoke magic."
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Wow nice to see y'all again in General
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 written Friday, March 25 2005 18:54 Profile #26
Hello SupaNik.

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"I suffer from spiritual malaise," said Cugel meaningfully. "which manifest itself in outburst of vicious rage. I implore you to depart, lest, in an uncontrollable spasm, I cut you in three pieces with my sword, or worse, I invoke magic."
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Help - A2 in The Avernum Trilogy
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 written Friday, March 25 2005 16:35 Profile #1
I don't think it comes from robbing the Castle, but it might.

You, my friend, have the Uber Curse, also as the Dread Curse. You should take it off, it has nothing to do with items.

You get it off simply. Just go to the Tower of Magi and talk to Mother Clarisse, she'll take it off.

(at least I think you've got the Dread Curse, it sounds like it)

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"I suffer from spiritual malaise," said Cugel meaningfully. "which manifest itself in outburst of vicious rage. I implore you to depart, lest, in an uncontrollable spasm, I cut you in three pieces with my sword, or worse, I invoke magic."
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Geneforge 3 Forum!! in Geneforge Series
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 written Friday, March 25 2005 16:29 Profile #33
Thank you very much Kel. I'm reading them now.

(Good thinking about your thread, Trinity, it'd be nice to use for comparison.)

If I'm not being too annoying in this request:

Kel, Seletine, Khoth: could one of you move the thread that dealt with recommendations for GF3 to this forum? I believe that's in GF2. The reason I'm asking for this is because, like with Trinity's thread, this might be interesting to have around here so people can see what things made it and which didn't.

Thank you. And take care!

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"I suffer from spiritual malaise," said Cugel meaningfully. "which manifest itself in outburst of vicious rage. I implore you to depart, lest, in an uncontrollable spasm, I cut you in three pieces with my sword, or worse, I invoke magic."
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Geneforge 3 Futhorc Runes in Geneforge Series
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 written Friday, March 25 2005 16:25 Profile #26
Dragonlance and Forgotten Realms, as far as I know, are completely different worlds. Within the realm of rules and such, they both also had slightly altered rules from the main AD&D system.

I've never read any Forgotten Realms book except the self titled first one written by Douglas Niles way back in the late 80's. My only knowledge of that world comes from the Black Isle games.

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"I suffer from spiritual malaise," said Cugel meaningfully. "which manifest itself in outburst of vicious rage. I implore you to depart, lest, in an uncontrollable spasm, I cut you in three pieces with my sword, or worse, I invoke magic."
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Poll with a poll: survivors in Geneforge Series
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 written Friday, March 25 2005 16:21 Profile #4
That's precisely what I meant, Trinity. I was indeed referring to how they survived basically using diplomacy and pitching rival Ottoman princes against each other as well as ingratiating with different courts in Europe to ensure their survival.

If I'm not mistaken and my memory doesn't fail me, they pretty much invented the "modern idea" (or at least its first germination) of diplomacy, and the term "Byzantine" refers, again if I'm not mistaken, to their often convoluted dealings.

It all ended in 1453, though. :(

(Apropos of nothing: There's a very cool book called Justinian by H. N. Turtletaub aka Harry Turtledove. He also has the series of Hellenistic Seafaring Adventure which are cool. There's also, Justinian: Last Roman Emperor by G.P Baker which is good. And, finally, a cool book about the Fourth Crusade (my favorite of them all, for many reasons) by Thomas Madden and Donald Queller. I'm biased because Dr. Madden was a professor of mine and I remember his Byzantine class as one of the high points in my education. I actually cried when we saw the fall of Constantinople, first and only time I've done it in a class. Signing off, Romantic Byzantine Fan.)

[ Friday, March 25, 2005 16:22: Message edited by: behind stingy cactus ]

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"I suffer from spiritual malaise," said Cugel meaningfully. "which manifest itself in outburst of vicious rage. I implore you to depart, lest, in an uncontrollable spasm, I cut you in three pieces with my sword, or worse, I invoke magic."
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How Long Must We Endure This Interminable Wait?!? in Geneforge Series
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 written Friday, March 25 2005 16:04 Profile #34
Well, faithful believers, don't lose your faith on Forge Friday yet. We still have a few hours until Midnight.

Tweet tweet tweet.

And just think, we could be talking about Venus days here. :P

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"I suffer from spiritual malaise," said Cugel meaningfully. "which manifest itself in outburst of vicious rage. I implore you to depart, lest, in an uncontrollable spasm, I cut you in three pieces with my sword, or worse, I invoke magic."
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Needle-Exchange Programs in General
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 written Friday, March 25 2005 14:55 Profile #11
(Edit: Thanks for the info, Thuryl)

(I think I misunderstood part of the topic)

I'm sorry about the mess (I know I write weirdly sometimes) :)

A needle exchange program is good. I like the fact that it is no questions asked.

I've known several doctors here from several different hospitals. Hospitals are having difficult times obtaining equipment and a variety of material they need. This material includes everything from sanitary towels, to plaques for X-rays, to syringes, etc. I won't bother you with the procedure, but it is annoying, and many times they just go by as they can. (The private hospitals and clinics do slightly better)

(I know the topic is not hospital oriented, but bear with me for a sec)

My problem is that an exchange program here is not feasible. What I see that could very likely happen is the government announcing a Mission, or program, to do this since it cares so much for its people and never doing a thing about it.

Another problem I have is this: Imagine the U.N, for instance, comes here. The government embraces their help. The U.N gives an agency in the government a number of needles, say 1 million. The goal is that the Agency will exchange this new syringes with used ones. Well, I can assure you that that won't work.

The fact that, as mentioned above, hospitals have a tough time getting supplies is a perfect opportunity to sell them syringes under the table. Also, someone can make money selling these needles (obatined either free or very cheaply through the U.N or whatever organization) in the street, instead of exchanging it.

The U.N will lose its shipment, the needles will never be exchanged, deseases will continue to be spread through the use of contaminated needles and those who worked in the Agency will have made a nice sum of money.

I thought, and think, that there is a chance this may (maybe) work here if the U.N acts as an independent body. That it carries the needle exchange itself, with only whatever minimum help it needs from the government. As I don't see this government accepting that unless it can use it as a way to express how magnanimous it is, etc.

I know Venezuela is not China or Russia or any other third world country. Maybe in those countries this can work. I don't know the level of corruption there, or the interest those countries may have in ensuring that their citizen can have a more healthy life, specially the kind of people that this program may end up helping the most.

Anyway, hope this has cleared any problems with my previous post and that I'm more on target now. Sorry for any inconveniences.

[ Friday, March 25, 2005 14:57: Message edited by: behind stingy cactus ]

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"I suffer from spiritual malaise," said Cugel meaningfully. "which manifest itself in outburst of vicious rage. I implore you to depart, lest, in an uncontrollable spasm, I cut you in three pieces with my sword, or worse, I invoke magic."
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Poor Man's Starbound? in Richard White Games
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Spaceward Ho! My cousin and I still play that game these days. Sometimes we plug my toaster, aka Mac 512E and play it. Last time was probably a year or so ago, but we felt nostalgic since we were discussing the extreme lack of good SF games for computer these days.

Another such bout of nostalgia was for a game called. . . "Universe II" You can download this little gem from any of the OldAsHellWares out there. It probably will be 200K or so (200k!!! OMG!) The game is very simple, but my cousin and I love to sit down and watch those miner shuttles go down to the planet and pick resources. Also, it has a very, very basic section where you go down to planets and chat with people and find out information.

Similar in that vein (sp? the word just lost all meaning to me!) is a game, not quite as old, called "Starflight" (1 and 2 and some enterprising people were working on 3, but I haven't check in ages. . . time to do so now! I found this!) which was pretty cool, for its time. You could even go down into planets in this cute little vehicle and check for ruins, get resources and fight thingies.

I tried "Infinite Adventures in something or other Space" and hated it. Please if you've play it, tell me how good or bad is it? I've heard so many good things about it here and there, yet I couldn't play it for more than two minutes (quite a critical opinion, huh?)

The original Reach of the Stars was an awesome game. I bought the newer version and, though still very good, it takes a while to get the hang of it.

Moo is cool, Moo2 is the best game of its kind ever made, and so far from what I've seen it will remain in its throne for some time to come. I bought Moo3, I was very excited, but I couldn't get into it. The stupidest reason: too much blue. It looked horrible. I told you it was a stupid reason. I still have it and hope to one day sit down, more open minded, and play it. Also, I think the music for Moo2 is one of the best (if not the best) pieces of music I've heard in any game.

I am glad this topic exists. Nothing cooler, for me, than playing a good 4x game on the computer. That would even beat RP games, though not IF.

Other good 4x games around. . .

There's "Galactic Civilizations" and "Space Empire" are both good stuff. The former has its website here and the latter can be found its website also.

There's a real time strategy game that I don't think has been mentioned, though I could be wrong:

Conquest: Frontier Wars, you can download a demo here

This is a simple game on its surface, and a bit of a Starcraft clone, to some. However, maybe it got my cousin and I at a good time, or who knows, but we love this game a lot.

It takes place in space. There are three races, Humans, one that you could remind you of the Protos and one that could remind you of the Zerg.

You have "heroes" who are Generals and give different bonus to your fleet.

The whole game is fleet oriented and you need to be careful with your supply line, or have supply ships always handy.

Give it a try if you want. I'm sure the game is cheap since it didn't sell that well.

I'm just going to have to play Nova, darn it. Too many people say it's good. I'm gonna download it now. (Done, and downloading the Pillars of Garendall just in case)

I've tried playing Imperium Galactica (II, I think) but lost patience. Anybody played it? Is it any good?

What is the first 4x or any other space game you played on the computer?

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"I suffer from spiritual malaise," said Cugel meaningfully. "which manifest itself in outburst of vicious rage. I implore you to depart, lest, in an uncontrollable spasm, I cut you in three pieces with my sword, or worse, I invoke magic."
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Spaceward Ho! My cousin and I still play that game these days. Sometimes we plug my toaster, aka Mac 512E and play it. Last time was probably a year or so ago, but we felt nostalgic since we were discussing the extreme lack of good SF games for computer these days.

Another such bout of nostalgia was for a game called. . . "Universe II" You can download this little gem from any of the OldAsHellWares out there. It probably will be 200K or so (200k!!! OMG!) The game is very simple, but my cousin and I love to sit down and watch those miner shuttles go down to the planet and pick resources. Also, it has a very, very basic section where you go down to planets and chat with people and find out information.

Similar in that vein (sp? the word just lost all meaning to me!) is a game, not quite as old, called "Starflight" (1 and 2 and some enterprising people were working on 3, but I haven't check in ages. . . time to do so now! I found this!) which was pretty cool, for its time. You could even go down into planets in this cute little vehicle and check for ruins, get resources and fight thingies.

I tried "Infinite Adventures in something or other Space" and hated it. Please if you've play it, tell me how good or bad is it? I've heard so many good things about it here and there, yet I couldn't play it for more than two minutes (quite a critical opinion, huh?)

The original Reach of the Stars was an awesome game. I bought the newer version and, though still very good, it takes a while to get the hang of it.

Moo is cool, Moo2 is the best game of its kind ever made, and so far from what I've seen it will remain in its throne for some time to come. I bought Moo3, I was very excited, but I couldn't get into it. The stupidest reason: too much blue. It looked horrible. I told you it was a stupid reason. I still have it and hope to one day sit down, more open minded, and play it. Also, I think the music for Moo2 is one of the best (if not the best) pieces of music I've heard in any game.

I am glad this topic exists. Nothing cooler, for me, than playing a good 4x game on the computer. That would even beat RP games, though not IF.

Other good 4x games around. . .

There's "Galactic Civilizations" and "Space Empire" are both good stuff. The former has its website here and the latter can be found its website also.

There's a real time strategy game that I don't think has been mentioned, though I could be wrong:

Conquest: Frontier Wars, you can download a demo here

This is a simple game on its surface, and a bit of a Starcraft clone, to some. However, maybe it got my cousin and I at a good time, or who knows, but we love this game a lot.

It takes place in space. There are three races, Humans, one that you could remind you of the Protos and one that could remind you of the Zerg.

You have "heroes" who are Generals and give different bonus to your fleet.

The whole game is fleet oriented and you need to be careful with your supply line, or have supply ships always handy.

Give it a try if you want. I'm sure the game is cheap since it didn't sell that well.

I'm just going to have to play Nova, darn it. Too many people say it's good. I'm gonna download it now. (Done, and downloading the Pillars of Garendall just in case)

I've tried playing Imperium Galactica (II, I think) but lost patience. Anybody played it? Is it any good?

What is the first 4x or any other space game you played on the computer?

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quote:

"I suffer from spiritual malaise," said Cugel meaningfully. "which manifest itself in outburst of vicious rage. I implore you to depart, lest, in an uncontrollable spasm, I cut you in three pieces with my sword, or worse, I invoke magic."
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