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Yarrr... Linux! in General
Shock Trooper
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Profile #86
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Originally written by Student of Trinity:

But what is the evidence or argument that has persuaded you that American wealth actually has been gained at the expense of the rest of the world?
Just one example:
Once, long ago, in the dim and distant past, farmers in places like Africa or South America or wherever survived on subsistence farming. They grew enough to feed themselves, plus maybe a little extra to sell and buy a goat.
Then the richer West came in and said "We'll pay you money to grow coffee instead!" And so the farmers grew coffee and had a moderately higher standard of living for a while. And they were happier.
Then the capitalistic tendencies of The West asserted themselves, and suddenly there was a little more coffee than we needed, and coffee became worth less. And so the companies paid the farmers less money for the coffee they grew, and then suddenly the farmers weren't getting paid enough to feed themselves. So they couldn't farm any longer, and they no longer had the resources they needed to grow edible crops even if they'd had enough saved to survive until their crops became edible. So they moved into the slums of some big city and tried to find work there.

This story is the reason for the excellent Fair Trade organization (or whatever exactly it is). They guarantee a minimum price for coffee that allows farmers to be sure of a living wage. They do this by charging the consumer slightly more, but that's made up for by it being genuinely good coffee.

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Yarrr... Linux! in General
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Member # 4239
Profile #70
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Originally written by PoD person:

I've been doing a lot of thinking, and I'm coming closer and closer to the depressing conviction that my USA's standard of living is predicated on the poverty of several third-world countries. I would welcome some sort of disproof, but it seems that our proletariat became bourgeousie by turning itself into the white-collar controllers of an impoverished global proletariat, and that's ;_;
I'll just say that (in my experience, anyway) there's a huge correlation between those who like socialism/communism and those who are more interested in humanity than the USA.
And another strong correlation between those who like capitalism and those who don't give a rip about the rest of the world.

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Yarrr... Linux! in General
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Profile #56
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Originally written by Jumpin' Salmon:

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...if every person in the USA gave only the tenth of their income to charity that I as a college student do, we'd actually be the generous nation we claim to be.
This was good too, and when I was younger I thought along similar lines. It goes back to the thing Mom used to ask, "If Jimmy jumped off that cliff, would you follow him?" It turns out that every person has the ability to make their own choices, independent of influence from anyone else. The one person that doesn't make charitable donations is not a bad person. They just aren't. If you feel badly that they aren't donating to charity, or you feel that they should in fact donate to charity, then you need to step back a few feet and ask how it would feel to be in that persons shoes and have that kind of pressure.
Our society is somewhat contingent on mutual respect, and more and more I see our freedom of choice removed by well meaning individuals. That creates homogenity, which in my view is bad for me and bad for society as a whole. But be how you want to be, I won't stand in opposition, as long as I can be left out of it.

Just because people are capable of choosing to continue to perpetrate evil doesn't mean the government should let them. "If Jimmy says murder is bad, does that mean you have to feel the same way?"

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Originally written by SoT:

In other words, the rich getting richer is an acceptable side effect in a system that makes the poor less poor faster than any other practicable system.
Arguably true. However, in practice that's sometimes a non-issue because it is, in fact, not always true that the poor slowly get richer within our society. I believe I at one point found out that the average income of California's bottom 20% has actually gone down over the last 20 years--I believe in unadjusted dollars, not just in terms of those corrected for inflation, too. (I'd get you sources but I've forgotten my googling steps and don't really have the time right now...later I hope I can.)
Secondly, that argument only works if you leave the rest of the world out of it. If you don't, laissez-faire capitalism pretty clearly doesn't work...sweatshops, anybody? How about Africa, anybody care to take responsibility for exploiting that continent's people?
Before you tell me that Africans today are better off than they used to be, I respond with this article which informs you that the percentage of Africans living on <$1/day has doubled since the 1970s. That's one hell of a long wait and a downward slide for us to be putting up with.

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Yarrr... Linux! in General
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Ah, that makes sense. Private high school teachers make a good bit more than public-school ones...at least in the US. I think average starting salary is ~30k/year and it climbs to ~50k; whereas professors at the lower end of (4-year) schools tend to start at that level and can climb into the 100ks. ;)

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Yarrr... Linux! in General
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Profile #50
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Originally written by Eldibs:

The entire income of my immediate family is just enough to live off of (approximately $10,000 a year). Besides, are you going out and doing good in the world, or are you just sitting around complaining and saying everyone else should?
Don't take this the wrong way, but how many people are in your family? My family's comfortably middle-classish, but my father's a pastor so I know a bit about one's circumstances if the familial income is $10k/year. And quite frankly, any family of 3-4 with that level of income doesn't have time for debates on the internet. Besides the fact that 10K is less than a full 40 hour workweek on minimum wage. Yes, I'm aware that most minimum-wage jobs don't provide a full workweek, but anybody who actually needs to live off of minimum-wage work has two jobs. Not to mention (I'm assuming) multiple adults capable of working.
Secondly, yes. I came into a decently-sized inheritance (which, no, I didn't earn, my grandfather just gave it to us); I gave a goodly percentage of it to a local homeless shelter to help with the construction of a new family-housing facility. I tithe on my other income. Attending a difficult college as I am (the inheritance paying for that, incidentally, not a new car or something...just so we're clear ;) ), I don't really have the money or time to do much else. :/ I expect to spend less of my income on myself than I do on charity when I get a job. (Given my background this is actually reasonable; last year my immediate family gave away more than half its income, and I won't have the burden of children for a good while.)
And in any case, if every person in the USA gave only the tenth of their income to charity that I as a college student do, we'd actually be the generous nation we claim to be.

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How do they earn it? By being good little boys and girls whenever you're watching?
No, by working (well, of course they'll have to behave, but not only when I'm looking). If they want to get that new toy or videogame, they'll have to do chores to earn it. When they turn 16 and want a new car, they'll get a job and pay for it. That way, they'll know the value of money, and they won't get a free ride. Then, when I die, they will evenly split whatever is left of my fortune with all the other members of my family.

So, err...they'll have to grow up under circumstances similar to most of the country and then they'll suddenly receive some money. I'm not saying they shouldn't get some, I'm just pointing out that they've still done nothing different from every other child in the country who doesn't have an inheritance coming their way.

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You can't earn a fortune in any fair sense of the word. What you can do is get lucky in location and birth.
So If I happen to work hard, spending my own free time inventing something that revolutionizes the world, and I get rich off of it (this is assuming I'm not already wealthy), then I didn't earn it? How is that right?

You did a wonderful thing and you presumably worked hard to get the money. But somewhere there's another person who worked just as hard or harder simply feeding their family; does that mean they should be condemned to live in poverty?

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Originally written by Eldibs:

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Do you really think anyone works one thousand times harder than average?
No, but do you really think it's fair to take away a person's wealth when they did work harder to get it?

Well, yes. Because our form of society creates and maintains wealth disparities, it's only fair that we as a society do our best to remedy that situation. Or do you also think that there's no racism left in this country and that affirmative action is evil?

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Originally written by Thuryl:

Academic research is another field with high contributions to society for really, really low financial reward. As a medical researcher, unless I start my own biotech company or win a Nobel Prize or something, I'm likely to earn even less than a teacher for similar hours of work. (I have several family members who are teachers, so I know how much they make.)

Frankly, this doesn't bother me. I'm not in it for the money anyway.

Where do you work? (Or, perhaps less freakily, what kind of research institution?) I know several professors, and all of them are making a good bit more than public-school teachers. Though it's entirely possible there's a large disparity between various classes of college/university?

[ Sunday, January 15, 2006 20:49: Message edited by: SNM ]

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Yarrr... Linux! in General
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Profile #36
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Originally written by Eldibs:

If those without starve to death, then so will those have have plenty. The wealthy need the poor to work for them to keep food on their tables. If the poor all starve, nobody is there to run the factories, clean the toilets, flip the burgers, etc. Also, nobody is there to buy the burgers, use the toilets, or whatever. In short, businesses would fail, the rich would become poor, and then they would starve, having been catered to all their lives.
There are a crapload of withouts for every with. Haven't you noticed that people still die on the streets in this country?

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Sometimes, you have to pick what will do the most good, and go with it.
Thus the existence of socialism.

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So what you're saying is we should go empty our bank accounts, and sell anything we don't absolutely need to live, and then hand out money to random homeless people on the street?
According to the founder of the most common religion in the States, yes.
According to my current interpretation, no. But there's a difference between caring for oneself and living lives of disgusting luxury. Most anybody who's at least upper-middle class falls into the latter category (in my view).

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I don't know if it's because I'm an American, or because I'm human, but if my family is hungry, or in need of anything, they come first. If my father, brothers, or whatever are going hungry, I don't really care about anyone else. Sure, it's not other people's fault that they're going hungry, but I've got other things to worry about. Namely, the survival of my family tree first and foremost.
Is family starvation a common occurrence with you?
Didn't think so. Now get out there and do some good in the world.

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Trust me, if I ever get rich and have kids, they're going to earn their inheritance. None of this "free ride because Daddy's rich" crap.
How do they earn it? By being good little boys and girls whenever you're watching?
You can't earn a fortune in any fair sense of the word. What you can do is get lucky in location and birth.

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6th Test in Avernum 4
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Profile #8
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Originally written by Dikiyoba:

Just the fact that this is the third game in a row to have "tests" is a bad thing.

Dikiyoba finally writes Dikiyoba's first short post of the day.

What were the tests in A3? I don't remember them.
Oh, and test of this nature are convenient. Due to implementation they aren't entirely believable this time, but simply making use of them is not necessarily a bad thing.

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Yarrr... Linux! in General
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Profile #20
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Originally written by Eldibs:

[QUOTE]Regardless of how good it would be for society, people in general, or the planet, Communism still has increased restrictions on freedom when compared to Democracy and Capitalism, and restricting freedom is something I would never stand for. Nobody has the right to run another person's life in any way, with the exception of the "imminent danger" rule. If someone decides they want to trade products or services for some sort of currency unit, that's their right. That kinda goes hand-in-hand with the whole "free will" thing.
FIrst of all, democracy!=capitalism.
Second, capitalism inherently restricts freedoms. Those with money and influence dictate to those without such resources. If those without refuse to be dictated to, they starve.
The difference in ideal communism is that everybody is dictated to but nobody starves and people get put into jobs that suit their skills rather than the jobs they can reach with their socioeconomic background. In practice it can be different, but you still shouldn't assume that communism inherently has less total freedom than capitalism.

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Holy Mac Windows Batman! in General
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Member # 4239
Profile #67
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Originally written by Kelandon:

There are many kinds of degradation in this world that can be found in many kinds of professions. For that matter, there are lots of products that have been touched one way or another by humiliation and hatred.
Can you name a single product that isn't?

Apologies if this is too political and such topics are disliked.

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Dorikas trouble in Avernum 4
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Member # 4239
Profile #3
I've become confused with Dorikas too. I had no trouble with this fight, but I never saw him again. Was I supposed to?
I ask because in my endgame text I swear it said that I killed him. (Though I was admittedly falling asleep after finally finishing the game, so maybe I'm just wrong.)

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where is this sleater fellow? in Avernum 4
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Profile #9
Of course, it's rather faster (and probably more SP-efficient) to just send up one hasted acid-resistant melee fighter and let the priest de-acidify him every turn.

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The Blosk Maps in Avernum 4
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Profile #5
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Originally written by *i:

It's upstairs in the northern part of town. In a quite dark barracks in a box or something that might be easy to miss. I suggest turning the brightness of your monitor up.
QFT
It may also be partially obscured, though I'm not sure.

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where is this sleater fellow? in Avernum 4
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Profile #2
You don't actually need to beat the adventurers to get everywhere in the Honeycomb as it's enough of a maze you can come at them from both sides.

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6th Test in Avernum 4
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Profile #2
And on a related note...do you ever get to discuss the tests with somebody? They're supposed to have been set up by the Crown for adventurers to prove their worth, but King Starrus hasn't mentioned them as far as I've gotten.
Especially irritating since I originally thought I'd have to complete them before being entrusted with some task or something.

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Holy Mac Windows Batman! in General
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Member # 4239
Profile #42
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Originally written by Januarist Revolutionary:

The only advantages I can think of are Mac user elitism, which really isn't all that advantageous, and the absence of Mac viruses, which is debatable.
Some of us get enough joy out of using the OS to count that joy as an advantage. Which I think is the only really good argument for it.
The Unix underpinnings...that's nice at college.
Oh, and I think it's generally more responsive than Windows...even now I sometimes temporarily lose mouse or keyboard control on my Windows desktop (during startup or very system-intensive tasks), but that almost never happens on my (slower) Powerbook.

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Keyboard control in General
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Member # 4239
Profile #15
Hey, some games work out all right. I can play Marathon via the trackpad. :)

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Alorael said:
Plugging something into a laptop to get the keypad isn't useful. If I'm already dealing with that, I might as well get a whole keyboard. It makes regular typing easier too.
A numpad is more portable. I'm not saying it's an ideal solution, but it's a compromise between carrying a whole keyboard around and not having a numpad at all.

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Keyboard control in General
Shock Trooper
Member # 4239
Profile #9
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Originally written by Januarist Revolutionary:

—Alorael, who prefers to avoid the mouse in general. This forced him to purchase a keyboard to go with his laptop (numerical keypads are necessary!), and he now contemplates the engineering challenge of making some form of folding keyboard for laptops that duplicates the standard desktop keyboard.
Just buy a USB numeric keypad. They're not cheap, but they should do the job.

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Helping Jeff advertise in Avernum 4
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Profile #49
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Originally written by Januarist Revolutionary:

In fact, strangely enough minor characters often get more fleshed out as people because they have less exposition to give and less plot to drive along.
I have to emphasize this point. In A1/2 the bit characters (shopkeepers and the like) were truly interesting. That was the part of A3 that most irritated me...suddenly the characters stopped being interesting people and become 3-line jobs (buy, sell, goodbye). And it happened again in A4. :(

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dispel barrier please!!!! in Avernum 4
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Profile #22
You can enter the ruins of the old Tower in two places. One of those places allows you to reach a demon, which you must kill.
It's a quest from one of the wizards, who will then allow you to read his spellbook.

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Soon I Shall Be Rich in General
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Member # 4239
Profile #4
Wow. I believe that is the least believable one I've ever seen.
I especially like him risking his job to help you, the random foreigner. :rolleyes:

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Holy Mac Windows Batman! in General
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Member # 4239
Profile #35
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Originally written by Eldibs:

The majority opinion is somewhat correct, as even people with small amounts of brain matter dislike huge amounts of frustration. If Windows was as evil, frustrating, and glitchy as everyone seems to think, then businesses, and large amounts of people would have switched over to Linux or Macs. Sure, you can claim that some people are lazy/idiots and don't switch because of that, but then why don't colleges and businesses switch? Why would they pay $100 a PC (depending on the Windows version) to run Windows, when Linux is free?
Firstly because you can't buy tech support for Linux. Secondly, many of them do run Linux or Unix (some distributions of which are also free).

Oh, and about dual-booting...I do believe it was Phil Schiller (VP of Marketing or something) who said Apple wasn't stopping anbody.

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dispel barrier please!!!! in Avernum 4
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Profile #20
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Originally written by Mimi:

Hum... sorry, but where is The Tower of Magi ? :confused:
Or, from Almaria, go east until you can't go farther and then turn south. It's in the very southeast corner of the map.

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Stunning in Avernum 4
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Profile #0
I'm most of the way through the game and still have no idea what it does to you/your opponents. Can anybody explain?

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Quick Note About Graphics in Avernum 4
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Profile #1
Any chance of an A4 update if that happens? :P

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Helping Jeff advertise in Avernum 4
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Profile #17
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Originally written by Glafna:

Contra-ooooookkkkkkkaaaaaaaayyyyyyyy.
Not exactly how I would put it. And you ARE aware that Jeff has a job outside Spiderweb, right?

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the About Jeff page:
Practically all my programming is done from noon to 6 PM and from midnight to 4 AM. The afternoon programming is done with the soothing sounds of Comedy Central and the Simpsons in the background. The late night stuff is done with Comedy Central playing on the telly. I say all of this only to make it absolutely clear I don't have a real job. We work in our basement here, with the TV always on, and we like it that way.


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