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Law Bringer
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written Wednesday, January 11 2006 21:22
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There's also the story of the notorious purveyor of spam who irritated people to the breaking point. They showed up at his house and delivered enormous amounts of junk mail that shows up in your real, physical mailbox and more or less buried his house. I remember getting this from a reasonably reputable source, but I don't know exactly where or how much I've remade it in my mind. —Alorael, who believes someone did, in fact, try to produce a helpful "virus" that hunted down the virus of the day. It worked at that, but it commandeered the infected computer entirely to do so and then refused to let go. Then there's the mostly forgettable Mount Dragon, which involves attempts to engineer a virus that will spread immunity to influenza instead of sickness. Needless to say, it actually turns out to be a gruesomely virulent disease itself. Posts: 14579 | Registered: Saturday, December 1 2001 08:00 |
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Lifecrafter
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written Thursday, January 12 2006 05:52
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quote:Not necessarily. Some windows programs just don't like to run on Linux, under an emulator, or otherwise. Also, if you're doing the installing for someone else, then you should install what they want (unless you want trouble with that person later). And sometimes (like in my case), Linux isn't worth the trouble of backing all your important stuff up, reformatting, and installing it. Besides, I don't see nVidia putting out new Linux drivers very often. quote:Like Dikiyoba said, it would be oddly satisfying. Besides, if the government has illegalized malware, then why don't they try it? quote:Apparently, they didn't test it very well. -------------------- "We can learn a lot from crayons. Some are short, some are dull, some are sharp, some are tall. Some have funny names and they are all different colors, but they all learn to live in the same box." "Happy is the man that has wisdom and gets discernment. For having wisdom as gain is better than having silver as gain and having wisdom as produce is better than gold itself" Proverbs 3:14-3:15 The horrible part about life is, you'll never get out of it alive. Currently boycotting: AngelFire, GameFAQ's, Macintosh PC's Posts: 818 | Registered: Tuesday, July 9 2002 07:00 |
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Law Bringer
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written Thursday, January 12 2006 06:15
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quote:I've heard of something like this. Wasn't it called Windows? ^_^ -------------------- Encyclopaedia Ermariana • Forum Archives • Forum Statistics • RSS [Topic / Forum] My Blog • Polaris • I eat novels for breakfast. Polaris is dead, long live Polaris. Look on my works, ye mighty, and despair. Posts: 8752 | Registered: Wednesday, May 14 2003 07:00 |
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Lifecrafter
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written Thursday, January 12 2006 06:47
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quote:Normally I would ignore an insult to Windows and the anime-smiley (the ^_^), should they be in separate posts. However, when shown together, I must retaliate. Off the top of my head, Windows is better than Macintosh because more programs support it. If Macs were so much greater than Windows, then everybody would be using them, and everybody would be writing programs for them. Also, when a person of intelligence uses Windows, it doesn't crahs near as often. I once went without a crash in Windows XP for a whole year. It's not like as soon as Windows boots up, it spontaneously crash for an inexplicable reason (unless you have hardware troubles, which isn't entirely Windows' fault) For the anime-smiley, I will direct you to www.animesucks.com, as the site's owner can show the faults of anime better than I could. [ Thursday, January 12, 2006 06:48: Message edited by: Eldibs ] -------------------- "We can learn a lot from crayons. Some are short, some are dull, some are sharp, some are tall. Some have funny names and they are all different colors, but they all learn to live in the same box." "Happy is the man that has wisdom and gets discernment. For having wisdom as gain is better than having silver as gain and having wisdom as produce is better than gold itself" Proverbs 3:14-3:15 The horrible part about life is, you'll never get out of it alive. Currently boycotting: AngelFire, GameFAQ's, Macintosh PC's Posts: 818 | Registered: Tuesday, July 9 2002 07:00 |
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Lifecrafter
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written Thursday, January 12 2006 09:57
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quote:Sounds as if somebody has too much time on his hands. ^_- Posts: 794 | Registered: Tuesday, October 11 2005 07:00 |
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Lifecrafter
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written Thursday, January 12 2006 10:30
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Only in the mornings before my classes start. Besides, that response took me like a grand total of 2 minutes to type. *stabs Belisarius (for the ^_-)* -------------------- "We can learn a lot from crayons. Some are short, some are dull, some are sharp, some are tall. Some have funny names and they are all different colors, but they all learn to live in the same box." "Happy is the man that has wisdom and gets discernment. For having wisdom as gain is better than having silver as gain and having wisdom as produce is better than gold itself" Proverbs 3:14-3:15 The horrible part about life is, you'll never get out of it alive. Currently boycotting: AngelFire, GameFAQ's, Macintosh PC's Posts: 818 | Registered: Tuesday, July 9 2002 07:00 |
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written Thursday, January 12 2006 11:21
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quote:This type of logic is very disturbing, as it essentially states that majority opinion is the correct opinion. I see immediate fault when extending that to, for instance, religion. Is it possible to use your logic to say Islam > Christianity > Buddhism ?? I've not found a definitive source on religion and census, but some countries such as England and Singapore do collect and publish such data. For England, Christianity > everything. Also, no sense in letting a festering Mac/PC debate go on without adding religion to the mix. After all, I already mentioned politicians... Edit - Ah hah! Although clearly not definitive, this place seems to clearly state that (by logic of the majority) Christianity is the superior religion. Now, how to integrate the fact that Islam is the fastest growing religion... *this message sponsored by kitchenaid* [ Thursday, January 12, 2006 11:27: Message edited by: Jumpin' Salmon ] -------------------- quote: Posts: 4114 | Registered: Monday, April 25 2005 07:00 |
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Lifecrafter
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written Thursday, January 12 2006 12:06
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The majority opinion is somewhat correct, as even people with small amounts of brain matter dislike huge amounts of frustration. If Windows was as evil, frustrating, and glitchy as everyone seems to think, then businesses, and large amounts of people would have switched over to Linux or Macs. Sure, you can claim that some people are lazy/idiots and don't switch because of that, but then why don't colleges and businesses switch? Why would they pay $100 a PC (depending on the Windows version) to run Windows, when Linux is free? -------------------- "We can learn a lot from crayons. Some are short, some are dull, some are sharp, some are tall. Some have funny names and they are all different colors, but they all learn to live in the same box." "Happy is the man that has wisdom and gets discernment. For having wisdom as gain is better than having silver as gain and having wisdom as produce is better than gold itself" Proverbs 3:14-3:15 The horrible part about life is, you'll never get out of it alive. Currently boycotting: AngelFire, GameFAQ's, Macintosh PC's Posts: 818 | Registered: Tuesday, July 9 2002 07:00 |
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Law Bringer
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written Thursday, January 12 2006 12:14
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quote:I also have one Windows PC that hasn't crashed in about half a year. But one day I am going to switch it on again. Also, I wasn't aware it was an "anime" smiley. I like it. If you associate short strings of characters with anime, you might want to make sure you do not have a fetish. ^_~ Edit: Apologies if this looks vitriolic. The bit about the Windows PC is true (although I've used it for a few hours several months ago, without crashing). And I'll be darned if someone tells me what smileys not to use. I can decide that for myself. ( :cool: :rolleyes: :P :cool: :rolleyes: :cool: :rolleyes: :cool: [ Thursday, January 12, 2006 12:19: Message edited by: Arancaytar ] -------------------- Encyclopaedia Ermariana • Forum Archives • Forum Statistics • RSS [Topic / Forum] My Blog • Polaris • I eat novels for breakfast. Polaris is dead, long live Polaris. Look on my works, ye mighty, and despair. Posts: 8752 | Registered: Wednesday, May 14 2003 07:00 |
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Lifecrafter
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written Thursday, January 12 2006 12:29
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^_^ is an anime smiley because it's reminiscent of the face anime characters make when they smile. It's also the smiley of choice for anime geeks all over the web. Try a google search for "anime smiley" and look at some of the results. I'm not saying you can't use it, I'm saying that if you do, I'll be more likely to argue with you, and more likely to spend more time researching my argument and studying it for errors, just because I hate anime that much. [ Thursday, January 12, 2006 12:35: Message edited by: Eldibs ] -------------------- "We can learn a lot from crayons. Some are short, some are dull, some are sharp, some are tall. Some have funny names and they are all different colors, but they all learn to live in the same box." "Happy is the man that has wisdom and gets discernment. For having wisdom as gain is better than having silver as gain and having wisdom as produce is better than gold itself" Proverbs 3:14-3:15 The horrible part about life is, you'll never get out of it alive. Currently boycotting: AngelFire, GameFAQ's, Macintosh PC's Posts: 818 | Registered: Tuesday, July 9 2002 07:00 |
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Shock Trooper
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written Thursday, January 12 2006 13:30
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quote:Firstly because you can't buy tech support for Linux. Secondly, many of them do run Linux or Unix (some distributions of which are also free). Oh, and about dual-booting...I do believe it was Phil Schiller (VP of Marketing or something) who said Apple wasn't stopping anbody. -------------------- There are two kinds of game players...those who are newbies, and those who were. Posts: 322 | Registered: Monday, April 12 2004 07:00 |
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written Thursday, January 12 2006 13:53
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quote:Um, whaaaaaaat? Many Linux distributors make a handy profit by selling tech support. Please check your facts in future? :P As for why most people use Windows? Frequency-dependent selection. There are considerable advantages to be had by using the same kind of computer as everyone else. Windows managed to become the first de facto standard OS, and much like the QWERTY keyboard, that allows it to maintain its position despite obvious flaws. -------------------- The Empire Always Loses: This Time For Sure! Posts: 9973 | Registered: Saturday, March 30 2002 08:00 |
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Shock Trooper
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written Thursday, January 12 2006 13:55
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Debates are great and all, but what's more important to know and establish for once and for all is can you dual boot and what must be done in order to do so. I've heard that the Intel-based macs will use a different system architecture (i.e bus, etc.) and you won't actually be able to run Windows on them, despite the processor they've got in common. [ Thursday, January 12, 2006 13:56: Message edited by: PoD person ] Posts: 293 | Registered: Saturday, May 29 2004 07:00 |
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Law Bringer
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written Thursday, January 12 2006 15:38
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Inertia is a powerful market force. Most people are used to Windows, so they buy Windows. Because most people buy Windows, most programs are written for Windows. Because most programs are written for Windows, Windows supporters can show that Windows has a larger selection of software, which means it's a better operating system. Preferring Windows for the software is perfectly legitimate (and self-fulfilling), but it does not make Windows a better operating system. (Logical fallacy of argumentum ad populum, for the record.) —Alorael, who prefers Macs because most of the his lab software that isn't simply the controls for some device works on a Mac. Therefore the Mac software is superior, so Macs must be the best computers for scientists. QED. Posts: 14579 | Registered: Saturday, December 1 2001 08:00 |
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Councilor
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written Thursday, January 12 2006 19:15
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Dikiyoba thinks that some of the advantages to Macs over Windows would vanish if Macs were more popular than Windows. Not all, but some. Posts: 4346 | Registered: Friday, December 23 2005 08:00 |
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Law Bringer
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written Thursday, January 12 2006 20:47
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The only advantages I can think of are Mac user elitism, which really isn't all that advantageous, and the absence of Mac viruses, which is debatable. There are claims that there are no Mac viruses because Windows is so much more popular, but that reasoning seems flawed because surely someone would target Macs. Others claim that the Mac virus-proof. —Alorael, who thinks the truth is probably a little of column A and a little of column B. If Macs had the vastly greater market share they would have some viruses, but Windows would still have viruses because it has all the security of a hole in a bank vault. And it has Virus Transfer Protocol. Posts: 14579 | Registered: Saturday, December 1 2001 08:00 |
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Agent
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written Saturday, January 14 2006 04:22
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quote:Linux is not so good :o -------------------- Download Geneforge 4: Rebellion You have 6 posts. Nobody cares what you think. - Thuryl Wikipedia may be your friend, but UBB is not. - Dikiyoba Posts: 1310 | Registered: Tuesday, December 20 2005 08:00 |
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Shock Trooper
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written Saturday, January 14 2006 08:06
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quote:Some of us get enough joy out of using the OS to count that joy as an advantage. Which I think is the only really good argument for it. The Unix underpinnings...that's nice at college. Oh, and I think it's generally more responsive than Windows...even now I sometimes temporarily lose mouse or keyboard control on my Windows desktop (during startup or very system-intensive tasks), but that almost never happens on my (slower) Powerbook. -------------------- There are two kinds of game players...those who are newbies, and those who were. Posts: 322 | Registered: Monday, April 12 2004 07:00 |
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Post Navel Trauma ^_^
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written Saturday, January 14 2006 12:07
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quote:It's clear from that website that the author of it does like anime, and is having fun. Just so you know. -------------------- Barcoorah: I even did it to a big dorset ram. desperance.net - Don't follow this link Posts: 1798 | Registered: Thursday, October 4 2001 07:00 |
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Lifecrafter
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written Saturday, January 14 2006 12:20
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What leads you to that conclusion? Regardless of whether or not he likes anime, his assertions on the stupidity of anime are very well thought-out. -------------------- "We can learn a lot from crayons. Some are short, some are dull, some are sharp, some are tall. Some have funny names and they are all different colors, but they all learn to live in the same box." "Happy is the man that has wisdom and gets discernment. For having wisdom as gain is better than having silver as gain and having wisdom as produce is better than gold itself" Proverbs 3:14-3:15 The horrible part about life is, you'll never get out of it alive. Currently boycotting: AngelFire, GameFAQ's, Macintosh PC's Posts: 818 | Registered: Tuesday, July 9 2002 07:00 |
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Shake Before Using
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written Saturday, January 14 2006 14:46
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Having recently read through it, it's pretty obvious that either the site is entirely a joke, or he was merely frustrated with certain elements of the culture that developed around anime in America. I'd question where an anime-hating troglodyte managed to find a lot of fansubbed anime to take pictures from, as well as have relatively accurate information. Also, his arguments can generally be summed up as "hentai is sick and wrong" (...it's basically porn, do you expect it not to be?), "some anime has awful plot (or humor)" (Bad anime is bad. Who'd have thought?), "the art in anime tends to be low-quality" (Well yeah, it's made to be done quickly for animation), "some anime plots are implausible, like Sailor Moon's disguise or Codarl (the giant robot) having hair" (Superman has a better disguise? And hey, the hair looks cool.), with a dash of "anime fans are stupid, fat virgin geeks" thrown in for good measure. (And hey, some of them are.) I don't really see anything there that's actually a condemnation of anime as a whole - which I'd see as rather difficult, anyway. It'd be like condemning live-action movies, television serieses, or theatrical productions as a whole. And, to SNM - I don't entirely see how the "Unix underpinnings" really give you any advantage at college, but maybe you go to a college that is quite unlike mine. On the other hand, mouse/keyboard unresponsiveness (as you said) usually seems to be a function of full CPU load, so you could also check how often you are hitting that on your PC in comparison to your Macintosh. Posts: 3234 | Registered: Thursday, October 4 2001 07:00 |
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written Saturday, January 14 2006 16:00
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quote:Hentai is sicker and wronger than porn (following the assumption that porn is sick and wrong). I find myself wondering if I could give examples here, without getting canned or banned. quote:Superman did have a terrible disguise. Actually, many superheroes have terrible disguises. Batman had a decent disguise. Maybe the hair does look cool, but why would you put it on a giant mech? What purpose does it serve. I doubt that a military-like organization would waste money just to add hair to a gian robot, when it would function just as well (probably even better) without it. quote:He does cover the subject quite well, however. quote:The site has been open since 2002, with a .com domain, so it would be a somewhat expensive joke. Personally, I find it all to be a moot point, as I simply use the site to get anime fans to calm down about the topic (i.e. stop foaming at the mouth about anime, and yes, I know someone completely obsessed with anime). I don't really care whether it's a joke or not. It serves my purposes well. -------------------- "We can learn a lot from crayons. Some are short, some are dull, some are sharp, some are tall. Some have funny names and they are all different colors, but they all learn to live in the same box." "Happy is the man that has wisdom and gets discernment. For having wisdom as gain is better than having silver as gain and having wisdom as produce is better than gold itself" Proverbs 3:14-3:15 The horrible part about life is, you'll never get out of it alive. Currently boycotting: AngelFire, GameFAQ's, Macintosh PC's Posts: 818 | Registered: Tuesday, July 9 2002 07:00 |
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written Saturday, January 14 2006 16:15
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quote:Well, no. Considering that unlike ordinary porn, hentai doesn't involve any real sexual acts on the part of real actors, I'm going to have to disagree with you here. quote:Keeping a domain name registered really isn't all that expensive -- only about $70 a year, last I checked. He likely pays much more for bandwidth than he does for domain name registration. -------------------- The Empire Always Loses: This Time For Sure! Posts: 9973 | Registered: Saturday, March 30 2002 08:00 |
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Lifecrafter
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written Saturday, January 14 2006 16:51
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That's still approximately $280 for just the domain, which is fairly expensive for a joke. The most I've ever spent on a joke was $50, and it helped spite someone I really hate, and I got 25 fish sandwiches out of it. Like I said, does it really matter? The site is there, and it points out the many flaws of anime. Does it matter whether it's a joke or not? quote:It still depicts sexual acts between humans, and it depicts more disgusting sexual acts. [ Saturday, January 14, 2006 16:54: Message edited by: Eldibs ] -------------------- "We can learn a lot from crayons. Some are short, some are dull, some are sharp, some are tall. Some have funny names and they are all different colors, but they all learn to live in the same box." "Happy is the man that has wisdom and gets discernment. For having wisdom as gain is better than having silver as gain and having wisdom as produce is better than gold itself" Proverbs 3:14-3:15 The horrible part about life is, you'll never get out of it alive. Currently boycotting: AngelFire, GameFAQ's, Macintosh PC's Posts: 818 | Registered: Tuesday, July 9 2002 07:00 |
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Apprentice
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written Saturday, January 14 2006 16:59
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quote:Just to answer once and for all - NO - the current batch of intel Macs cannot run windows, the reason being that Windows still boots up with the archaic BIOS, while OS X uses EFI. When Windows Vista is released next year, or there abouts, it will likely be able to run on Macs. In the meantime there is still Virtual PC allowing Windows programs to be run in OS X, but it will be very slow on intel Macs until the next version is released - whenever that happens. -------------------- Whatever happens, happens. Posts: 48 | Registered: Monday, April 4 2005 07:00 |