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Apprentice
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I think that we should help Jeff advertise Spiderweb, and therefore getting alot more money into Spiderweb and therefore more games, maybe faster.
Posts: 49 | Registered: Friday, February 18 2005 08:00
Shaper
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No, because then he just recycles old plots over and over again like he did with GF3 and A4 and we never see anything new again.

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Posts: 2957 | Registered: Thursday, October 4 2001 07:00
Apprentice
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But if he gets more money coming in from more and newer fans, then he may be able to afford to make a completly new engine. And I read somewhere that he's going to try to make Geneforge 4 a little different from the other 3
Posts: 49 | Registered: Friday, February 18 2005 08:00
Electric Sheep One
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You don't seem to understand the first thing about oppressing the proletariat.

Jeff works as fast as he can now, while he's poor and anxious. Make him rich and he'll just get lazy on us.

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Posts: 3335 | Registered: Thursday, September 4 2003 07:00
Apprentice
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no he wouldn't. He doesn't sell the games for enough to get really rich. and plus, if he does get really rich, he'll probabley expand the company unless he wants to stay a Independent designer. And if he gets lazy, he'll lose alot of his loyal customers, including the older gamers
Posts: 49 | Registered: Friday, February 18 2005 08:00
Apprentice
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One should also take care not to advertise too much.
Many forums frown upon a topic which just says;
Avernum 4 is out, it's so cool, go download it!!!

I've been on ambrosiasw's boards for quite some years as Opalius, and we've had many such topics. They don't contribute to a board community at all.
Alas, there's all ready a topic there.
http://www.ambrosiasw.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=101428&st=0&p=1518952&#entry1518952
You could say that that's advertising, but in a good way.
Posts: 10 | Registered: Monday, January 2 2006 08:00
BANNED
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Wait.

You want JV to get money?

For A4?

I don't think I understand the nature of your request.

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Posts: 6936 | Registered: Tuesday, September 18 2001 07:00
Apprentice
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Opalias, the site looks pretty good. Have you played "Pillars of Garendell"? It looks good, but I'd like a review from a fellow Avernite
Posts: 49 | Registered: Friday, February 18 2005 08:00
Apprentice
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Prometheus- I mean that we should help him advertise so he gets more money, therefore has more funding for games, therefore more and batter games. Off Topic=Have you played Age of Mythology: The Titans? It's because I remember the name from the game and its one of the things I remember most.
Posts: 49 | Registered: Friday, February 18 2005 08:00
Shock Trooper
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Jeff works alone. If I understand the nature of his life anywhere near as well as I think I do, he will always work alone. Otherwise he wouldn't work alone. If he didn't like working alone in this environment, he wouldn't. He'd be a designer for some corporate entity, like he was for MechWarrior 4.
And one person can only work so fast, so he won't provide us new games any more quickly.

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Posts: 322 | Registered: Monday, April 12 2004 07:00
Apprentice
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I remember him saying in an interview that he has a couple friends helping him full time(meaning that they're desingers who work alongside Jeff) and that there are several other people who help him from time to time(it's the impression I got) And anyway, I'm pretty sure Jeff could hire a couple of decent part-time desingers if he got more buisness
Posts: 49 | Registered: Friday, February 18 2005 08:00
Law Bringer
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Jeff is highly misanthropic and values his independence. Getting a few buddies to do some of the grunt work for his games is one thing. Putting together an outfit for real collaboration is very different, and I don't think Jeff wants to do that enough to try it even if he could.

The only things I remember seeing anywhere are that Linda and Mariann do some of the town design. That's hardly a great deal of cooperation.

—Alorael, who played Pillars of Garendall for a very short time. He was underwhelmed.
Posts: 14579 | Registered: Saturday, December 1 2001 08:00
Apprentice
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quote:
Originally written by Glafna:

Have you played "Pillars of Garendell"?
I have. Didn't like it much. Wouldn't exactly recommend it.

Alorael put it pretty well.

Now EVO, that's an entirely different matter. (speaking of advertising) IMAGE(http://community.the-underdogs.org/smiley/happy/dork.gif)
Posts: 10 | Registered: Monday, January 2 2006 08:00
Infiltrator
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We can help him advertise..

..OR we can just flood him with millions and millions and millions and..(Yeah, you get the idea) emails, telling him to pull something creative out of his (censored) or we won't buy his games anymore, and he will be forced to live on the streets, selling (censored) to (censored, something about senators).

Of course, since we are all such weakminded ADDICTS, and Jeff, being a misanthrope that works alone, would never cave in..We would all go crazy during withdrawl from our Spiderweb drug, and thousands of pissed off gamers aren't pretty..Well, we would allready be pissed off if we sent him all those emails, and it obviously is not pretty, we know that..So...

In conclusion; Things are better off as they are. JEff will continue to milk his games and plotlines dry, and we will continue to buy them like the suckers we are. Because lets face it; They are still good enough to make you cream in your pants.

Contra out.

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Posts: 522 | Registered: Wednesday, May 4 2005 07:00
Apprentice
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Alorael/Opalias- Thanks for the feedback.[

Contra-ooooookkkkkkkaaaaaaaayyyyyyyy.
Not exactly how I would put it. And you ARE aware that Jeff has a job outside Spiderweb, right?
Posts: 49 | Registered: Friday, February 18 2005 08:00
Board Administrator
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"Jeff is highly misanthropic and values his independence."

Oh, not "highly". You'd like me if you met me.

I greatly appreciate every bit of word of mouth people give me, but I wouldn't go out of my way to do it.

I resist the characterization, by the way, that I've gotten so lazy in plotting. Though Geneforge 3 had a lot of the same story structure as 1 and 2, I think there was enough neat stuff in there to let me sleep at night. The character of Litalia and the whole Dhonal's Isle thing in particular.

Geneforge 4 will go heavy in the opposite direction from Avernum 4, by the way. Avernum 4 was a simpler combat game because that was what I felt like writing. Now I want to write a cool story with lots of funky scripted events.

- Jeff Vogel

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Posts: 960 | Registered: Tuesday, September 18 2001 07:00
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Glafna - Let me be the first to congratulate you on having an opinion. Thanks for sharing it.

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Posts: 4114 | Registered: Monday, April 25 2005 07:00
Shock Trooper
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quote:
Originally written by Glafna:

Contra-ooooookkkkkkkaaaaaaaayyyyyyyy.
Not exactly how I would put it. And you ARE aware that Jeff has a job outside Spiderweb, right?

quote:
the About Jeff page:
Practically all my programming is done from noon to 6 PM and from midnight to 4 AM. The afternoon programming is done with the soothing sounds of Comedy Central and the Simpsons in the background. The late night stuff is done with Comedy Central playing on the telly. I say all of this only to make it absolutely clear I don't have a real job. We work in our basement here, with the TV always on, and we like it that way.


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Posts: 322 | Registered: Monday, April 12 2004 07:00
Apprentice
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.......... Shut up
Posts: 49 | Registered: Friday, February 18 2005 08:00
Law Bringer
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Scorched Earth Party. Story About the Baby.

I think highly belongs right next to that misanthropic.

—Alorael, who doesn't consider misanthropy a bad thing, per se. Pick any random person and chances are good that he or she deserves to be disliked and possibly even reviled.
Posts: 14579 | Registered: Saturday, December 1 2001 08:00
His Mighty Tentacle
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I have all of the cuddly warmth of a cactus.

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Posts: 1104 | Registered: Tuesday, February 12 2002 08:00
Raven v. Writing Desk
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Yeah, I have to suspect that Jeff isn't alone in his misanthropy, to what degree it exists.

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Posts: 3560 | Registered: Wednesday, November 7 2001 08:00
Shock Trooper
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quote:
Originally written by Spidweb:

Geneforge 4 will go heavy in the opposite direction from Avernum 4, by the way.
Look out for Geneforge 4, looking exactly like Avernum.

Or would that be G4 going in the exact same direction as A4?

hmm.

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Posts: 269 | Registered: Friday, July 19 2002 07:00
Infiltrator
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Avernum was combat, Geneforge will be a cool story. How can you confuse what he said?
In either way, I am now very optimistic about G4.

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Posts: 522 | Registered: Wednesday, May 4 2005 07:00
Apprentice
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I'm optomistic about all of the Spiderweb games.
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