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Great Art in Games in General
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Originally written by SupaNik:

Did anybody play Silent Hill on PlayStation? That was awesome... especially the FMV in the hospital as...
Actually, one of my most favorite artsy moments in a game ever also is from Silent Hill in the hospital, but rather than SupaNik's scene, it would be when, after going up the elevator floor-by-floor to the top (third) floor, you return to the elevator to find a "4" button that wasn't there before... :D It's amazing how small touches like that can add so much to a game (as well as a spine-tingle).

For purposes of all-round great artistic design, I would put forward the Fallout series (for obvious reasons), and would also mention Eternal Darkness for the Gamecube. The Cthulu-esque theme was very well done, and I can still hear the voices of the entities reciting the names of the runes for spells.
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Pied Piper Project 3: Revenge of the Boards in General
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"This topic comprises..."
Kudos on using "comprises" correctly! About 0.005% of the population of the U.S. appears to be able to do so. :)
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Favorite and Most Hated Music To Play in General
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Or tin whistles, if you're from Ireland.
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Longest Word in General
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Glenelg in South Australia is a really nice place to visit, though definitely not for surfing.
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chiptruth: kudos for game informer raves in General
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The Worst Game Ever in General
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Pools of Radiance: The Ruins of Myth Drannor sucked, and sucked hard.
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Christmas Music in General
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Handel's Messiah.
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Harry Potter 4 in General
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Oh come on, Ash - surely you remember what it was like being a 14 year old? Hormones and craziness everywhere! Can't blame Hermione for that - after all, there's Harry in the next book to consider... ;)
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Its that time of the year again in General
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Bah, humbug.
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Movie Trivia Challenge: ROUND VI in General
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(Wasn't Zoso the city of thieves in Final Fantasy VI? - Sorry for interrupting.)
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Presto Change-o Disappear-o in General
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Some schools have five-year reunions. Mine didn't, and I'm glad for it, as I now have time to finish law school and get an impressive-sounding job to rub in everyone's faces at the ten-year reunion, which is really what it's all about. Man, I hated high school. Of course, the people who aren't successful likely won't show up, but there you go.

My five-year undergrad reunion, on the other hand, was a blast.
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illogic boards in General
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So, it would appear that the logic board is yet again fried on my iBook, though I had it replaced under Apple's replacement program last year, which I qualified for. Has anyone else had the same experience? Considering that the program has officially expired, do you think they might still be willing to replace it for free, given that it's the same problem? $1400 items should last longer than three years. Grrr!
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Numbers in General
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Gadzooks! Truly an accomplishment worthy of a topic, if e'er there were. A bunny with a pancake for you!

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[ Thursday, December 01, 2005 05:15: Message edited by: Drew ]
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Harry Potter 4 in General
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I thought it was much better than the previous three. I'm looking forward to seeing it again over Thanksgiving. :)
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Kiwis ban virtual drugs in General
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Hey, cheapness is good and responsible - and far better than going into debt. Just be sure that you at least have you savings in an actual savings account or similar interest-earning device - there's no sense in letting inflation devalue your savings!
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Kiwis ban virtual drugs in General
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TM, industry responds to societal tastes and demands. Brittany Spears is popular, and so we have Jessica and Ashley Simpson. "Survivor" is popular, so we have "Dog Eat Dog." Sure, there is some degree of industry saying "hey, look here, this is cool so you should like it," but nine times out of ten, their ideas fall flat on their faces - see Ashley Simpson. Industry just bombards us with so many products that it seems they have a stranglehold on our imaginations.

Despair at the times and the morals all you want, but you can only waive the victim flag so much - ultimately, it's your responsibility to turn off the television, not purchase that game, etc.
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Aussies Come Here in General
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... or have gone waltzing Matilda.
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Kiwis ban virtual drugs in General
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Originally written by Ash Lael:

Drew - you missed my point. I was seeking to demonstrate that the slippery slope argument was useless. Just as legalizing homosexual marriage isn't going to lead to lawful paedophilia, banning maybe 2 games a year isn't going to lead to the return of the Dark Ages.
It isn't useless, though. It's used in law all the time to prevent bad precedent from taking effect. You give censorship-minded people an inch, and they'll take a yard. You are obviously one such person that would want more censorship applied than just a couple games a year. You'd probably like to see porn banned, right? How about violent movies? And that painting in the National Art Gallery featuring the nude woman sure doesn't seem like art to you...

With regard to Walmart, it has a right to do what it wants. If it increases its bottom line by promoting the fact that it won't sell rated-M games, it should, as it has every right to do so. It's a great example of industry self-regulation - no government intervention necessary.
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Kiwis ban virtual drugs in General
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At the outset, I would point out that none of your examples have anything to do with a freedom of expression, which is what's being discussed. My Dark Ages reference is valid - the church imposed its strict morality on Western Europe, and I would argue that this act stymied cultural development for centuries. There's a reason the eras following were called "The Rebirth" and "The Enlightenment," after all.

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Originally written by Ash Lael:

Yep, and allowing Gay marriage is a slippery slope to allowing adults to marry children.
No. The age of consent, certainly regulated in some way by each of the fifty states here and (I assume) in Australia, would intercede.

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And banning heroin is unthinkable, because just think back to the horrible days of Prohibition.
There aren't compelling reasons to keep alcohol legal, frankly - the opportunity for people under the influence of alcohol to negatively effect others is very high. Chalk it up to the industries' lobbies.

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And environmental laws are clearly going to lead to shooting people to cut down on methane emissions!
Now that's just silly.
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Kiwis ban virtual drugs in General
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It is a slippery slope, Ash. Consider the Dark Ages of Western Europe.
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Name in General
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Wife, mom, sister.
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Ya wanna bet? in General
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I ate a stick of butter on a bet for $5 once. No ill effects. :)
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Kiwis ban virtual drugs in General
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Originally written by Ash Lael:

A game that teaches kids to commit crimes is arguably causing harm maliciously and recklessly.
I forgot to include the word "deliberate" in my definition.

A game that's rated "M" for mature is not for children to play.

We're not just talking about children here, though - we're talking about responsible adults. My questions to you are (a) what harm do these games do, and (b) is there any legitimate proof that they do? I think that the answer to both is no. Barring maybe a couple exceptions, most of the consuming market recognizes that these games are fantasy and for entertainment purposes only.

Censorship is a slippery slope, Ash, and it doesn't take much before you're essentially living in North Korea or Utah. Where do you stop? Arguably, Avernum is worthy of censorship because its storyline includes defying authority, drug use, murder, and the occult. How do you feel about that?

[ Thursday, November 03, 2005 13:51: Message edited by: Drew ]
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Kiwis ban virtual drugs in General
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It isn't a matter of specific situations so much as intent, and in your example, as well as in the case of libel/defamation, false statements are used to cause harm maliciously and recklessly. This is not the case with art, however lurid.
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Kiwis ban virtual drugs in General
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Decency standards are restrictions, Ash. Any "standard" is.
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