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Dialogue in Blades of Avernum
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Yes. Note that's the thing that starts dialogue in basicnpc, too.

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

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The nephilim language in The Avernum Trilogy
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quote:
Originally written by Thralni, The flying Dutchmen:

How much testing should I do before the beta call?
Play it all the way through at least once and make sure that it's finishable. That's the bare minimum. Your beta testers will probably like you better if you actually do most things in the scenario that are possible (talk to everyone, finish all the quests) to make sure that all of the side things work, but at the very least, make sure it's finishable.

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

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quote:
Originally written by Bruce Mitchell:

I continue to question whether modern medicine helps overwhelmingly more often than it hurts. I’d say in true emergencies, this is very true. However, I feel that in the field of pregnancy and birth this is especially not true.
Quick reality check: Infant mortality rates — this is a .gov site, so I think it's reputable — in the developed world are vastly below the levels they were at prior to the development of modern medicine. Compare countries that don't have modern health care systems, such as Angola, with the developed world: Angola has a rate nearly thirty times that in the U.S.

I don't have figures on women surviving childbirth in the developed world (somewhere in the realm of one death per 10,000 births, I think), but I do know that the normal cause of death for women in classical times was childbirth (and C-sections prior to the 16th c. invariably meant death, and almost always even in the 19th c.). I did get a source for not long in the past, and it seems reasonably reputable (a .edu, in association with a university and some other real organizations) that cites this statistic: "During the seventeenth and eighteenth centuries, between 1 percent and 1.5 percent of all births ended in the mother's death as a result of exhaustion, dehydration, infection, hemorrhage, or convulsions."

I will agree that much more progress needs to be made, but denying that modern medicine has made tremendous advances in the survival of both mother and child during pregnancy and birth is simply ignoring the facts.

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

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cats or dogs? in General
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Prefiero los gatos.

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

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Ur-Drakons? in Geneforge Series
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I have no doubt that you've received this warning before, but I'll give it again: generally if a topic hasn't been posted in in a few days (and definitely if a week or more), it is considered polite to leave it alone unless you have something genuinely new and interesting to add.

You didn't.

Therefore you shouldn't have posted.

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

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From the desk of Mitt Romney: in General
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Perhaps, Alec, but it always reassures me that you are so diligent in your God-appointed mission of telling people when they're not living up to your standards of message-board posting quality, especially since you've contributed so much to this thread.

In other news, yes, I might cast a vote based on a candidate's religion, if he talked about his religion in a way that annoyed me.

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

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anyone else here like dragonlance in General
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Like Tyranicus, I liked the Weis and Hickman ones through Dragons of Summer Flame and was greatly disappointed at the War of Souls garbage.

The Legends trilogy is still one of my all-time fantasy favorites, though.

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

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From the desk of Mitt Romney: in General
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The mention of the Lord's Prayer made me do what I compulsively do now: look it up! I read it in English first, then in Latin, and then in Greek. It comes, after all, from Matthew (and also appears, in a slightly less developed form, in Luke).

The English actually is a very good translation of the Latin, and the Latin is a pretty good translation of the Greek. There's some odd textual history with the last line, but other than that, I'm impressed with how well this one actually holds up.

Other than that, I'm not touching this topic with a ten-foot pole at the moment. :P

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

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The Conservative Shift in General
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quote:
Originally written by Belisarius:

And as soon as the electorate realizes they are all bark and no bite, The Conservative Shift will be out on its ass where it belongs.
I disagree. I think that the conservative shift will reverse itself as soon as the liberal side can stop its damn infighting and sniping at each other and instead unite under a single platform. The left agrees on far too little. (The war? D's are hopelessly divided.)

Dems need to learn the lesson that R's learned a long time ago: speak speak no ill of and do no ill towards each other.

As far as a pendulum swinging back and forth: the pendulum didn't swing left in the '60s, at least not in the late '60s. Doesn't anyone remember that Reagan won his governorship in '66 and Nixon the presidency in '68? The pendulum was already in the left, thanks to FDR, and the late sixties saw, if anything, a slight conservative reaction in voting patterns.

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

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quote:
Originally written by Bruce Mitchell:

Re. Iatrogenic Disease. All I am saying is that it seems to exist. That is enough for me to put serious doubt on the success of modern medicine.
I think you're missing the concept of percentage rates. Modern medicine helps overwhelmingly more often than it hurts.

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

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Census ][ in General
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Means of transportation to work/school: Walking.
A RL nickname not previously mentioned here: Freight Train. I barreled through people in football.
Worst choice of Halloween costume you've ever had: He-Man. I was young and foolish.
A mythological figure you identify with: Odysseus.
A Simpsons character you identify with: Uh, Lisa, I guess.
Favorite Sesame Street character: Never really watched it.
Favorite Spidweb game character: Erika, maybe.
Favorite (English) word: None. It would be Latinate, if it existed.
Favorite cereal: Cheerios! And Corn Chex!

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

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quote:
Originally written by Bruce Mitchell:

What Doctors Don’t Tell You says it is one of the few information services that can justifiably claim to solve people’s health problems - and even save lives. We tell you in plain language what works, what doesn’t and what may harm you in both orthodox and alternative medicine so that you can make informed choices.
You've got to be kidding me. This site is so blatantly intended to scare people into buying its products that anyone with any shred of discriminating skepticism will immediately disregard its self-promotion and look elsewhere for the facts. I'd refute its claims, but I'd rather not have to pay the sity money in order to see them!

The page on iatrogenic disease is interesting. Note how it cites news articles towards the bottom of the page. It's interesting how thoroughly those news articles are edited to make them sound more scary than they are. "Study: Tools left in 1,500 patients yearly" is a real AP report, but, for instance, in the paragraph that says, "Most patients needed additional surgery to remove the object," the actual report follows it up with, "but sometimes it came out by itself or in a doctor's office. In other cases, patients were not even aware of the object, and it turned up in later surgery for other problems." Sure, the factual content is more or less the same, but the emphasis is entirely different, and emphasis is the difference between genuine reporting and alarmist scare tactics. I'd rather have my information undiluted, personally.

EDIT: But I think it's fair to say that this statement is an exaggeration: "Cancer is an industry, as environmental watchdog Dr Samuel Epstein famously pointed out. It is an industry that has been created by the drug companies, and one that generates billions of pounds of profits for them."

Cancer has not been created solely by "the drug companies."

[ Wednesday, February 22, 2006 08:03: Message edited by: Kelandon ]

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

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Census of Spiderweb community in General
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Ah, I recognize my old topic. This was right after I joined.

Age: 20
Gender: Male
Sexual orientation: Hetero
Marital status: Single
Highest educational degree completed: High school, so far
City/metropolitan area where you live: Berkeley (San Francisco)
Racial/ethnic origin: Mixed European (more or less)
Nationality: USA-an
First/primary language: English
Religion: More or less atheist.
How long you've been a Spiderwebber: Played the games since '99 or '00. Been on the boards since a couple years ago.
Whether or not you're a septuagenarian eskimo: No, but I aspire to be one someday.

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

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quote:
Originally written by Jumpin' Salmon:

It reminds me of the creation/I.D./evolution debate vis a vis schools and biology class. This is by no means an exact comparison, as there are living people which experienced the hatred themselves, and actual events are different than theories of anything.
That's different in another way, too: if a school proposed teaching a history class that denied that the Holocaust ever happened, I'd be up in arms against it. That's a government-funded, government-run institution. This I find a little harder to get worked up about, because it's a private citizen.

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

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Denied! in Richard White Games
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Thralni: "Of" requires a genitive.

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

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Denied! in Richard White Games
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quote:
Originally written by Selima:

It should arrive in about 6 hours, give or take a couple of minutes.
You know me well. :)
quote:
Originally written by Thralni, The flying Dutchmen:

Forum Richard-White-is ad fundum totis foris transducat.
This reads, "Let him lead across the forum of Richard White to the bottom for the whole forums." I guess the jussive subjunctive works, here, but I'm not fond of transduco for the verb, especially since traduco would be much more classical anyway. And are we really "leading something" (duco) "across" (trans)? It seems odd. It also means "carry over" and "transfer," but meh. Not fond of the verb.
quote:
Originally written by Student of Trinity:

Ceterum censeo forum Ludi Ricardi Albi deferendum esse.
This works. The Perseus site just died on me, so I can't check the usage at all — Cato was rather early, after all, and if we want Golden Era Latin, we may have to change a word or two — but this definitely works. The verb defero is much better.

Something was killing me about this sentence, and I think I've pinned it down: Ludi is supposed to be in apposition to forum, right? That is, we're talking about "the forum, Richard White Games," in the nominative, not "the forum of the game of Richard White," right? It seems strange to me — and I can't look this up at the moment due to Perseus's death — that a verb (censeo) that would introduce indirect discourse (deferendum esse) would take an object in the nominative (forum Ludi in apposition). Can anyone check on this?

If not, I will when I get back in a few hours.

[ Tuesday, February 21, 2006 08:45: Message edited by: Kelandon ]

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

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Exit Strategy (Realized) in General
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quote:
Originally written by Thuryl:

If anyone's interested, I'll be taking bets on how long he'll last before he comes back.
My wager is on him not actually leaving at all. We have yet to witness this predicted departure, after all.

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

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Dialogue help. in Blades of Avernum Editor
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Micael: The only two things written about dialogue are in the Cookbook and on my site.

The best way to figure out dialogue is to look at a simple example, like something in VoDT, and then try to make a very simple dialogue of your own. Just keep testing your own simple dialogue until you get how it works.

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

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Dialogue help. in Blades of Avernum
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Micael: The only two things written about dialogue are in the Cookbook and on my site.

The best way to figure out dialogue is to look at a simple example, like something in VoDT, and then try to make a very simple dialogue of your own. Just keep testing your own simple dialogue until you get how it works.

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

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Well, he's being persecuted because of his statements, not because of his beliefs.

Holocaust-denial skirts a very odd, narrow line in terms of free speech. I suppose that the argument could be made that denying the Holocaust is the first step to committing it again, so that the very act of denying that the Holocaust occurred represents a direct threat to the safety and security of all Jews. In that sense, I can see that this man is criminally dangerous.

But such an argument seems dangerous in itself to me. I'm not sure how it could be manipulated to bad ends, but I'm sure that it could be.

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

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quote:
Originally written by Synergy:

Kel, why you gotta make my points all black and white like that? I use words like “primarily” and you rephrase me in absolute, boolean on/off terms.
I don't have to rephrase you to put your ideas in absolute terms.
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I’m saying disease is the result of negative emotional and psychological states (more than we usually recognize in the west), bad dietary habits, stress, toxins in our environment, and other things which are all the result of us living selfishly or foolishly in various ways.
"Disease is the result of." Not "Sometimes disease is exacerbated by," or "Some diseases are linked with," or "We'd mostly be healthier on a day to day basis if we paid more attention to," but "Disease is the result of."

Look, I'm one of the last people just to pop a pill when I feel sick, but I just can't agree with what you've said here. You're making wild generalizations about things that you don't know as much about as you think you do. You need to take a step back and re-assess what you actually know, and make sure that you say what you mean.

[ Monday, February 20, 2006 20:36: Message edited by: Kelandon ]

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

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quote:
Originally written by Synergy:

Contact with a virus is not the primarily controllable issue affecting whether or not one falls prey to it.
I get it, now! Condoms are totally useless. If you just eliminate your negative emotions, you won't get AIDS or syphilis. Awesome!

Watch out, there, Slartucker. If Synergy's right, you could catch ebola from those upset feelings of yours.

[ Monday, February 20, 2006 19:26: Message edited by: Kelandon ]

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

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*points to Ash's signature*

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

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Alternatively, you could go to Africa and cure AIDS by reducing their stress.

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

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BUGS! in Blades of Avernum Editor
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As far as I can tell, the default Eyebeast graphic has its icons in the wrong order. This means that the creature will appear to be facing south when it's actually facing north in the editor, east when west, west when south, and north when east.

[ Monday, February 20, 2006 16:43: Message edited by: Kelandon ]

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Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

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