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Physics, and a dumb teacher in General
Kelandon
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 written Saturday, February 18 2006 19:57 Profile Homepage #13
Well, if you drop a ball from some height and want to know how fast it's going to be going when it hits the ground, KE=(1/2) m * v^2 is one good way to get that speed.

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

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Let's Go! in General
Kelandon
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 written Saturday, February 18 2006 19:16 Profile Homepage #67
quote:
Originally written by Ash Lael:

Otherwise they can get you coming AND going.
I suspect that the former is worse than the latter.

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

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"The End of Blades" Discussion in Blades of Avernum
Kelandon
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 written Saturday, February 18 2006 06:47 Profile Homepage #45
quote:
Originally written by Kaartinjaakari Smoo:

And by the way has there ever been anything besides a slow release pace for BoA scenarios?
Roses of Reckoning. Release date: 4/7/2004.
Babysitting. Release date: 4/30/2004.
The Cave of No Return. Release date: 6/20/2004.
Emerald Mountain. Release date: 8/10/2004.
Death at Chapman's. Release date: 8/17/2004.
A Perfect Forest. Release date: 9/5/2004.
Canopy. Release date: 12/25/2004.
Xerch'de. Release date: 12/27/2004.
Bahssikava. Release date: 2/20/2005.
Backwater Calls. Release date: 2/27/2005.
Lord Putidus. Release date: 3/29/2005.
Nine Variations on Point B. Release date: 4/7/2005.
Cresent Valley. Release date: 4/15/2005.
Undead Valley. Release date: 5/24/2005.
Druids of Krell. Release date: 6/5/2005.
A Large Rebellion. Release date: 6/6/2005.
Mad Ambition. Release date: 6/9/2005.
Nephilim Mystery. Release date: 8/2/2005.
Proving Grounds. Release date: 10/17/2005.
Magus of Cattalon. Release date: 1/8/2006.

It appears that the period between Bahssikava and Mad Ambition was the most active period for BoA (nine scenarios in four months). It appears that right now is the slowest (two scenarios in the past six months). The previously slowest period was right after the release of the game (three scenarios in five months).

It probably helped that the period between Bahs and MA was the period right before the deadline of the last contest.

[ Saturday, February 18, 2006 06:48: Message edited by: Kelandon ]

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

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The nephilim language in The Avernum Trilogy
Kelandon
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 written Saturday, February 18 2006 06:19 Profile Homepage #208
Thralni: You keep saying, "There's a difference," "I hear a difference," "A difference exists," but you have never actually said what the difference is. That's what is making this so hard.

You can keep saying, over and over again, that one should just pronounce it the way that a German would pronounce an R, an RE, and an RA, but that hasn't made sense before, so it's not likely to make sense when you repeat it. Say something else!

I think you just mean that the R is somewhat assimilated to the pronunciation of the following vowel, but that would be true of all vowels, as ef said, and it probably wouldn't be unique to the R, given how quickly the language must be spoken.

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

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All-Nephilim Group in Blades of Avernum
Kelandon
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 written Friday, February 17 2006 21:45 Profile Homepage #7
I think that's Dikiyoba's point. I think he was trying to indicate that Babysitting allowing the party to be any race is good, not that Mad Ambition not doing so is bad.

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

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Everything you never wanted to know about Christian radio... in General
Kelandon
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 written Friday, February 17 2006 21:20 Profile Homepage #9
So what is the point of a Christian radio station, if not to play Christian music?

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

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Everything you never wanted to know about Christian radio... in General
Kelandon
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 written Friday, February 17 2006 20:22 Profile Homepage #1
quote:
Originally written by Ash Lael:

the politics (oh dear God, the politics)
This sounds interesting, but I can't even formulate a proper question.

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

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Hanged? in General
Kelandon
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 written Friday, February 17 2006 19:57 Profile Homepage #101
You know, it occurs to me that a Greek reader might have had a visceral response to the idea of a man feeling desire for another man, because that was often thought mildly improper. After all, for most Greeks, it was most proper for a man to feel desire for young boys, not full-grown men.

Thuryl: Yeah. Well, if you're not gay, but you're forced into having same-sex intercourse, it's pretty unpleasant. That's sort of the sense that I'm getting out of this passage.

[ Friday, February 17, 2006 19:58: Message edited by: Kelandon ]

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

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Hanged? in General
Kelandon
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 written Friday, February 17 2006 19:47 Profile Homepage #99
Well, yeah, if you say that men committed improper actions with other men in one instance, you're not necessarily saying that men cannot under some circumstances commit proper actions with men, too.

Er, my own translation? This is about what I'd get if I were trying to be fairly literal.

"Because of this, the god abandoned them to dishonor in emotion: that is, the women changed their natural use into one contrary to nature, and similarly, the men, having sent away their natural use of women, were completely enflamed in their desire for each other, men for men, doing things indecorously, and receiving in themselves the requital that was necessary for their transgression. And even as they refused to have the god in their mind, the god abandoned them to a disreputable state of mind, to do things that were not proper, being filled up with all injustice, wickedness, arrogance, and cowardice, full of envy, murder, quarrelsomeness, treachery, and improper conduct, being whisperers, slanderers, hated by god, violent towards others, haughty, vagabonds, contrivers of evil things, lacking obedience to fathers, lacking understanding, faithless, heartless, and merciless: whoever having recognized the god's decree, that the people doing such things are worthy of death, not only did them, but also agreed with the doers."

[ Friday, February 17, 2006 19:48: Message edited by: Kelandon ]

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

Kelandon's Pink and Pretty Page!!: the authorized location for all things by me
The Archive of all released BoE scenarios ever
Posts: 7968 | Registered: Saturday, February 28 2004 08:00
"The End of Blades" Discussion in Blades of Avernum
Kelandon
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 written Friday, February 17 2006 17:48 Profile Homepage #35
When he said that Blades will only die if "you" let it die, I don't think he was addressing anyone in particular.

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

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The nephilim language in The Avernum Trilogy
Kelandon
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 written Friday, February 17 2006 14:10 Profile Homepage #201
It would help if you explained what the actual difference is. I have some guesses as to what you mean, but I can sit here guessing phonetic terms all day and we'll get nowhere. What do you hear as the difference between the normal R, the RA, and the RE?

EDIT: Okay, I finally got sick of this and found some audio clips online.

Here's rad. Here's wasser. The difference I hear between the first R and the second is that the first one is distinctly trilled and the second one is not so much. Is that what you're talking about? If not, is there a clip on this page that illustrates what you're talking about?

And if it's actually the vowel that's different, not the consonant, please explain what the difference is.

[ Friday, February 17, 2006 15:11: Message edited by: Kelandon ]

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

Kelandon's Pink and Pretty Page!!: the authorized location for all things by me
The Archive of all released BoE scenarios ever
Posts: 7968 | Registered: Saturday, February 28 2004 08:00
The nephilim language in The Avernum Trilogy
Kelandon
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 written Friday, February 17 2006 07:42 Profile Homepage #199
It seems unlikely that they're all uvular trills if they're actually pronounced differently. I'm just going to ask my German teacher this morning if he has any idea what you're talking about.

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

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Hanged? in General
Kelandon
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 written Friday, February 17 2006 07:33 Profile Homepage #93
quote:
Originally written by Jewels:

Oh, and as already shown, there is New Testament verbiage against homosexuality, if not in the extent that it is 'a sin', at least to the extent that it is harmful and should be avoided, like being a drunkard.
You didn't actually read my post, did you? That line in the NT doesn't appear to have anything to do with condemning same-sex intercourse.

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

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I, too, am a Postmaster (aka "Behold the Cheap Knockoff") in General
Kelandon
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 written Friday, February 17 2006 07:29 Profile Homepage #11
Congratulations. You are a dirty, dirty spammer.

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

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A Year of Stats in General
Kelandon
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 written Friday, February 17 2006 07:28 Profile Homepage #26
Back in fourth, I see. Well, someday I'll lose by winning. Someday.

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

Kelandon's Pink and Pretty Page!!: the authorized location for all things by me
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Posts: 7968 | Registered: Saturday, February 28 2004 08:00
The nephilim language in The Avernum Trilogy
Kelandon
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 written Friday, February 17 2006 07:24 Profile Homepage #197
Uh huh. So what exactly is the difference between these different R's, then?

To open an ogg file on a Mac, you can use Audacity, among other things.

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

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Hanged? in General
Kelandon
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 written Thursday, February 16 2006 21:41 Profile Homepage #89
Ash: Well, my first instinct is to look at the original Greek, because the English always seems a little less precise. This is all my own work on the spot, working from the Perseus text, so forgive any typos or whatever.

The most emphatic word in the first sentence (by position — ask if you want to know what I mean) is changed. This verb is familiar to me, and a quick check of the LSJ (the most authoritative Classical Greek dictionary) confirms what I suspected: this is the verb for handing someone over to the enemy, the verb for betrayal. It breaks down into two parts, translating literally as "to give to the side of [someone]." There is definitely a sense that the object of this verb is unwilling — God is punishing these people "because of this" by changing them against their will.

Now, what is this "touto" — "this" — that this sentence mentions? It appears to be idolatry, hubris (in the various senses of that word), and not worshipping god. None of their crimes for which they are being punished involves homosexuality at all.

Back to the changing business. Every verb here (and from that point on, you can see it in translation, too) stressed heavily that these people were not gay to begin with — they were changed.

There are a couple of words here that are, I suspect, critical. One is "orexis." This that word translated as "lust," but it really just means "desire." It doesn't give any reason to suggest that the desire itself was shameful, the way that the English word "lust" does. The verb preceding it, "ekkaiw," suggests that the desire was too great to be resisted, but I'm not sure that it necessarily means that the desire itself was shameful either. Its magnitude was bad and would've made a classical reader shudder, but more on that in a sec.

They did "undecorous" things — this is another odd word, "askhHmosunH" (apologies for the awkward transliteration), which just means "lack of form": it's "ungraceful," "lacking proper manners or refinement," or something of that nature. Still nothing to suggest that the same-sex desire itself was the problem, though; maybe they were having sex in public or neglecting their other duties or something.

As a cultural aside: Classical Greece was full of stories of the dangers of too-great desire, so this idea of the problem being them having sex in the streets is not as strange as it sounds on its face. Herodotus begins his history with one such story, in which a king is so in love with his wife that he forces another man to see her naked, and he ends up losing his throne over it. So this extreme desire would've freaked out some people, but the same-sex aspect of it would've been very familiar (and not at all strange) to the Greeks.

Finally, they received what recompense was necessary for their "planH" — this word does not mean perversion. It means "wandering," literally, or "going astray," or "deceit," but the LSJ gives no indication that it means "perversion." This was just your translator being creative. At this point, it is not clear to what this "planH" refers: is it the lack of sexual manners, or is it the various sins for which they were being punished in the first place? Let's keep reading.

The very next sentence stress how they refused to believe in God, and God again hands them over to "a disreputable mind" — this is an odd phrase, and I'll go into it if someone wants, but it's more or less the same as before. They continue to do lots of bad things, none of which (as far as I can tell from a quick perusal of this laundry list of vices) have to do with sexual immorality, much less same-sex intercourse.

Okay, so here's the result of my close reading of the Greek:
* Nothing in the passage suggests that these people were gay, at least before God made them burn with sexual desires, and they certainly are not punished anywhere for same-sex intercourse. (They are punished at the end of the passage for a whole variety of sins, including murder, but that extensive list doesn't appear to include sexual immorality anywhere.)
* My best guess about a contemporary audience's response to the few sentences about sexual immorality is that they would have more been bothered by the lack of decorum, since it was always bad to lack decorum in classical times, than by the same-sex intercourse, which was extremely common in Greece.
* Therefore, nothing here suggests that same-sex intercourse is bad. What this passage says is that being overwhelmed by one's appetites and forgetting God and basic decorum is bad.

After all, if this passage were about the immorality of same-sex intercourse, why on earth would the author insert at the end the fact that these people were also murderers, slanderers, envious trouble-makers, and all the other characteristics associated in a classical mind with a lack of proper restraint? This would simply water down his conclusion if his conclusion were simply that same-sex intercourse is bad, but really, it supports his conclusion that one must keep one's appetites in check and remember God and propriety, or else terrible things happen.

EDIT: Having just read the darn thing in the original and examined it quite closely, I agree with a few points in the article to which Slartucker linked, but I think it's stretching some things a bit far.

Dikiyoba: Yes, one can be bisexual, asexual, questioning, or anything else that you can imagine.

[ Thursday, February 16, 2006 21:46: Message edited by: Kelandon ]

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

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BUGS! in Blades of Avernum Editor
Kelandon
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 written Thursday, February 16 2006 19:38 Profile Homepage #18
I just noticed that, in door.txt, there is this line:

award_party_xp(BASE_TRAP_XP,1 + 2 * get_mechanism_difficulty());

Is BASE_TRAP_XP documented somewhere? If not, this is yet another undocumented feature.

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

Kelandon's Pink and Pretty Page!!: the authorized location for all things by me
The Archive of all released BoE scenarios ever
Posts: 7968 | Registered: Saturday, February 28 2004 08:00
BUGS! in Blades of Avernum
Kelandon
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 written Thursday, February 16 2006 19:38 Profile Homepage #18
I just noticed that, in door.txt, there is this line:

award_party_xp(BASE_TRAP_XP,1 + 2 * get_mechanism_difficulty());

Is BASE_TRAP_XP documented somewhere? If not, this is yet another undocumented feature.

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

Kelandon's Pink and Pretty Page!!: the authorized location for all things by me
The Archive of all released BoE scenarios ever
Posts: 7968 | Registered: Saturday, February 28 2004 08:00
Let's Go! in General
Kelandon
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 written Thursday, February 16 2006 19:24 Profile Homepage #28
Don't forget about me!

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

Kelandon's Pink and Pretty Page!!: the authorized location for all things by me
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Hanged? in General
Kelandon
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 written Thursday, February 16 2006 19:18 Profile Homepage #82
quote:
Originally written by Dintiradan:

As for the cited example: the practice of homosexuality is condemned in both the Old and New Testament, and never condoned.
Would you be surprised if I told you that this is not a trivial statement to prove?

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

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It ain't over til the diva chokes on her tongue in General
Kelandon
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 written Thursday, February 16 2006 19:15 Profile Homepage #29
Did that image of a warm, delicious chocolate chip cookie being eaten in the form of Nicothodes take anyone else to a bad visual place?

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

Kelandon's Pink and Pretty Page!!: the authorized location for all things by me
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(Brag Thread) Avernum 3! in The Avernum Trilogy
Kelandon
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 written Thursday, February 16 2006 19:01 Profile Homepage #1
I recall enhancing all of the pants in my party. I refused to wear anything that wasn't magical by the end of the game.

I AM MR FANCY PANTS

[ Thursday, February 16, 2006 19:16: Message edited by: Kelandon ]

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

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Utility skills in Blades of Avernum
Kelandon
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 written Thursday, February 16 2006 12:51 Profile Homepage #1
*bump*

Does anyone have a save file from just after ZKR or DWTD? Just check it and let me know what level you have each of these skills at.

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

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Wetting myself... in General
Kelandon
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 written Thursday, February 16 2006 12:50 Profile Homepage #21
quote:
Originally written by Drew:

You can always get exam prep for SAT, ACT, etc., if you aren't a good tester(Kel would be the expert on this, though). Good scores can help make up for a lacking GPA.
Two things: Yes, prepping for the tests makes a quicker improvement than trying to increase your GPA. It's possible to raise an SAT score by 200 points over the course of a semester (with hard work), but it's often not possible to raise a GPA by a comparable amount over the same semester. I work for The Princeton Review, which was what AM was alluding to, so I know a bit about this; just ask if you have any questions.

Also, there are a number of hidden gems out there — Minnesota reminds me of Carleton and the nearby Grinnell — that have good programs but not as strict entrance requirements as a Harvard or a Princeton. There are a number of good schools in the Midwest that get overlooked because so many people want to go to the coasts.

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

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