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| Title | Raven v. Writing Desk |
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| Registered | Wednesday, November 7 2001 08:00 |
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Raven v. Writing Desk
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written Thursday, February 16 2006 13:06
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Thanks for the suggestions everyone, these are good. Stew, you don't sound stupid; they're mildly specialized terms relating to linguistic philosophy, but they can be used more generally. There was a thread about them earlier. A good summary is here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prescription_and_description -------------------- Slarty vs. Desk • Desk vs. Slarty • Timeline of Ermarian • G4 Strategy Central Posts: 3560 | Registered: Wednesday, November 7 2001 08:00 |
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written Thursday, February 16 2006 08:55
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I guess I'll go with Talkin' Bout the Smiling Deathporn Immortality Blues (Everyone Wants to Live Forever) by the Flaming Lips. -------------------- Slarty vs. Desk • Desk vs. Slarty • Timeline of Ermarian • G4 Strategy Central Posts: 3560 | Registered: Wednesday, November 7 2001 08:00 |
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Raven v. Writing Desk
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written Thursday, February 16 2006 07:40
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Well, what are the traditional divides in those areas? RPs in particular someone's gonna have to lend a hand deciphering. -------------------- Slarty vs. Desk • Desk vs. Slarty • Timeline of Ermarian • G4 Strategy Central Posts: 3560 | Registered: Wednesday, November 7 2001 08:00 |
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Raven v. Writing Desk
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written Wednesday, February 15 2006 22:02
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All right, a general question then. If this is being designed specifically to capture "personality" differences on the spidweb boards, what distinctions are most important to capture? So far, there are a few suggested by specific threads (like prescriptivist / descriptivist) and a few that are more general (jackassness / oversensitivity, being an attention whore). Oldbies, what are the timeless personality conflicts of the boards? -------------------- Slarty vs. Desk • Desk vs. Slarty • Timeline of Ermarian • G4 Strategy Central Posts: 3560 | Registered: Wednesday, November 7 2001 08:00 |
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written Wednesday, February 15 2006 21:48
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Well, it looks like I'll have to refine the typology and maybe put a test together. I'll do that tomorrow. -------------------- Slarty vs. Desk • Desk vs. Slarty • Timeline of Ermarian • G4 Strategy Central Posts: 3560 | Registered: Wednesday, November 7 2001 08:00 |
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Raven v. Writing Desk
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written Wednesday, February 15 2006 20:37
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Honestly, I figured I'd wasted enough time on it already. I am amused, however, to see that it is being taken so seriously. In case it wasn't clear, this was a light-hearted joke, and the continuums I used are WAY too sketchily described to really apply well to anyone. That said, obviously you pick the side someone leans to. My reasoning behind Kel's typing, for example, is that he's critical and explains things in relative brevity, and of course he was half the basis for the T vs. N joke. Aran, you're right about V/F. I wanted something akin to predator/prey, but since most people are really neither, it becomes: do they correct other people when they say stupid things? You do. I was going to slot you in as FSND. You're definitely a D, at any rate, from what I've seen of you. Edit: It occurs to me that these line up with the actual MBTI in some amusing ways. MBTI Ns tend to be more verbose than Ss online. Thinking/New Age is obviously Thinking/Feeling. And Prescriptivism and Descriptivism actually parallel J and P pretty closely. [ Wednesday, February 15, 2006 20:40: Message edited by: Slartucker ] -------------------- Slarty vs. Desk • Desk vs. Slarty • Timeline of Ermarian • G4 Strategy Central Posts: 3560 | Registered: Wednesday, November 7 2001 08:00 |
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Raven v. Writing Desk
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written Wednesday, February 15 2006 20:06
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[i]Shamefully presenting the Spiderweb Message Boards Type Indicator (SMBTI)[/i] Users are evaluated on four scales: Flamer (F) vs. Victim (V) Do they attack others, or do they get attacked? Yeller (Y) vs. Spammer (S) Do they get themselves noticed by saying a few retch-inducing things, or by flooding the boards with posts? Thinking (T) vs. New Age (N) Are they a cold, emotionless drone, or a saccharine, vacuous romantic? And finally, I could not leave out the self-explantory Prescriptivist (P) vs. Descriptivist (D) These four categories combine to form sixteen types. For example: TM is the FYTD "Fixed Your Typo, Dolt" — Flamer, Yeller, Thinking, Descriptivist EDF is the VSNP "Natural Born Newbie" — Victim, Spammer, New Age, Prescriptivist SMBTI can be used to help explore interpersonal conflict. For example, we can analyze the recent conflict between Kelandon (FYTP "Fixed Your Grammatical Error") and Synergy (FSNP "Everybody Hug, Or Else") as a classic YT vs. SN conflict. ;) Slartucker (FSND "Philosophizing Wanker") -------------------- Slarty vs. Desk • Desk vs. Slarty • Timeline of Ermarian • G4 Strategy Central Posts: 3560 | Registered: Wednesday, November 7 2001 08:00 |
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written Wednesday, February 15 2006 16:11
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I was just talking in general terms -- treating people with respect and giving them freedom is pretty universally relevant. Good luck being a counselor all the time. I think that is a good way to make your head explode. -------------------- Slarty vs. Desk • Desk vs. Slarty • Timeline of Ermarian • G4 Strategy Central Posts: 3560 | Registered: Wednesday, November 7 2001 08:00 |
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written Wednesday, February 15 2006 13:52
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All right, you've convinced me Kel. And it is horribly circular. Syntactic theory is full of horribly circular definitions. You might appreciate the following exchange I had with my syntax prof two years ago: "So we know the subject is in SpecTP because it's the thing that sits in SpecTP?" "Yes." -------------------- Slarty vs. Desk • Desk vs. Slarty • Timeline of Ermarian • G4 Strategy Central Posts: 3560 | Registered: Wednesday, November 7 2001 08:00 |
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written Wednesday, February 15 2006 12:49
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I'm going to confine myself to addressing one point, which I feel I can't ignore. quote:You can't do that. As an aspiring counsellor you ought to know better. There are situations where it is appropriate and productive to force someone to face something. They are rare, and this was definitely not one of them. It is one thing to be persistent. It is one thing to encourage someone. I'd even say those things are critical. But it is another thing entirely to erode their sense of psychological safety through the use of actual force. Even if you succeed in getting the other person to address what you want addressed, nothing good will come of it. By using force on them, you have made it hard for them to trust you. As far as I am concerned, this kind of social manipulation, abusing the inherent power of community for a partial end, is appropriate at pretty much the same times that threatening physical force is appropriate. Who knows -- perhaps Kelandon would have benefitted from a frank and open discussion with you. Perhaps not. You don't know the answer. Frank and open discussions are often a good policy, but they are not panaceas for everything. Kelandon decided, for whatever reason, that he didn't want to continue the one you were having. Attempting to force someone to continue a conversation they want to end, because you think it would be productive, is akin to saying "I know what's good for you better than you do." You may have been right, who knows. But it's one thing to urge the other person to keep talking, and it's another to use force. -------------------- Slarty vs. Desk • Desk vs. Slarty • Timeline of Ermarian • G4 Strategy Central Posts: 3560 | Registered: Wednesday, November 7 2001 08:00 |
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written Wednesday, February 15 2006 11:08
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On the other hand, this conflict has definitely increased my respect for some of the bystanders. Aran, you're beginning to remind me of Marcus Andronicus. -------------------- Slarty vs. Desk • Desk vs. Slarty • Timeline of Ermarian • G4 Strategy Central Posts: 3560 | Registered: Wednesday, November 7 2001 08:00 |
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written Wednesday, February 15 2006 10:22
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So, what happens when a null bug gets sucked into a black hole? -------------------- Slarty vs. Desk • Desk vs. Slarty • Timeline of Ermarian • G4 Strategy Central Posts: 3560 | Registered: Wednesday, November 7 2001 08:00 |
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Raven v. Writing Desk
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written Wednesday, February 15 2006 10:01
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Probably because the forums are not as critical to spidweb as their own website is -- the website does advertising and selling, it brings in money, the forums do very little in economic terms. So, if the need ever arose, ironycentral could be sacrificed for the good of spidweb. (/me smacks down an awful wretched analogy involving the separating sections of the enterprise D) -------------------- Slarty vs. Desk • Desk vs. Slarty • Timeline of Ermarian • G4 Strategy Central Posts: 3560 | Registered: Wednesday, November 7 2001 08:00 |
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Raven v. Writing Desk
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written Tuesday, February 14 2006 18:04
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quote:But in Nephilian, the subject of a transitive verb is in a different case from the subject of an intransitive verb -- so this is quite relevant information. As far as prodrop goes, I didn't see it in your descriptions anywhere, but there were some example sentences that had subject pronouns omitted. Also, I see what you mean about the tenses now. Your table format makes it look like there are four different suffixes for each person/number combination, one for each tense. If the table is going to contain TWO different types of suffixes, you should label it appropriately. -------------------- Slarty vs. Desk • Desk vs. Slarty • Timeline of Ermarian • G4 Strategy Central Posts: 3560 | Registered: Wednesday, November 7 2001 08:00 |
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written Tuesday, February 14 2006 15:28
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quote:There's a Calvin and Hobbes strip where Calvin complains that the universe needs a cover charge, to keep out the riff-raff... -------------------- Slarty vs. Desk • Desk vs. Slarty • Timeline of Ermarian • G4 Strategy Central Posts: 3560 | Registered: Wednesday, November 7 2001 08:00 |
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written Tuesday, February 14 2006 14:16
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It was originally spidweb.com, and I think the redirect from spiderwebsoftware is relatively recent. -------------------- Slarty vs. Desk • Desk vs. Slarty • Timeline of Ermarian • G4 Strategy Central Posts: 3560 | Registered: Wednesday, November 7 2001 08:00 |
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written Tuesday, February 14 2006 13:02
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I've also always received a snail mail letter, I assume for some reason related to the legal categorization of the transaction. -------------------- Slarty vs. Desk • Desk vs. Slarty • Timeline of Ermarian • G4 Strategy Central Posts: 3560 | Registered: Wednesday, November 7 2001 08:00 |
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written Tuesday, February 14 2006 12:57
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One of the things I don't like about the Internet is the inability to have a face-to-face interaction at times like this. Kel and Syn have gotten so far off base from each other. IRL I suspect that a lot of this could be clarified and resolved in a few minutes, but online, where there is a (generally) less nuanced mechanism of communication, it'll never happen. I'm watching this, and what I'm seeing is that at every turn, both parties unintentionally make a small miscalculation about what the other one meant... and these small miscalculations pile up. -------------------- Slarty vs. Desk • Desk vs. Slarty • Timeline of Ermarian • G4 Strategy Central Posts: 3560 | Registered: Wednesday, November 7 2001 08:00 |
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written Tuesday, February 14 2006 08:59
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Cheer up Aran. Alorael — Seargant-at-Arms and Stripper of Sanity -------------------- Slarty vs. Desk • Desk vs. Slarty • Timeline of Ermarian • G4 Strategy Central Posts: 3560 | Registered: Wednesday, November 7 2001 08:00 |
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written Tuesday, February 14 2006 08:56
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I think it's safe to say that (despite the full frontal powwow they had) Synergy and Kelandon are two extremely different people who tend to approach things from very different angles. That Synergy can come off as sacharrine and "New Age" and Kelandon can come off as cold and hostile probably shouldn't be a surprise to either of them. Of course, neither one is actually hostile or an idiot, as far as I can tell. They just disagree about many things. Sound fair? -------------------- Slarty vs. Desk • Desk vs. Slarty • Timeline of Ermarian • G4 Strategy Central Posts: 3560 | Registered: Wednesday, November 7 2001 08:00 |
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written Tuesday, February 14 2006 07:13
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New conversation started at 2/13/06 7:58:38 PM. Slartucker: yo t Slartucker: what's up slarty Slartucker: I was reading your posts on spidweb Slartucker: and I think you gotta rein yourself in Slartucker: whatcha mean? Slartucker: well, you are a little rashly tongued Slartucker: I mean you sound totally cuckoo! Slartucker: ... Slartucker: pffft. later -------------------- Slarty vs. Desk • Desk vs. Slarty • Timeline of Ermarian • G4 Strategy Central Posts: 3560 | Registered: Wednesday, November 7 2001 08:00 |
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written Tuesday, February 14 2006 06:07
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I just want to announce that there is a certain member who has been really impolite to me. =( =( =( First, he always fixes my typos before anyone else and he doesn't always say nice things about me when he does. Then, he wouldn't be my valentine. He said it would be too weird! I was trying to be nice, and he just shoved me away! Now he told me on instant messanger that he thinks I'm totally cuckoo!! I don't know why anyone would say such a thing! I wish he wouldn't be so mean!!!! It's not my fault that nothing I do is ever good enough for him. Frankly I think we would be better off if he'd just shut up, and I want him eliminated. Nobody else wants to hear his pompous linguistic analyses or horrible puns or to be talked to so... so... honestly! It made me so mad that I pretended to cry and was going to make a big show of leaving the forums =( Instead I order all members to not reply to any of his topics (unless it is to insult him) -- they are all locked under my orders!!! And I have decided to attack him in public and say all these bad things about him because he is such a poopyhead and because he doesn't walk on eggshells all around my particular hang-ups! This evil evil person who you should all stay the heck away from is... Slartucker. Oh yeah, one more thing. Happy Valentine's Day everyone ;) -------------------- Slarty vs. Desk • Desk vs. Slarty • Timeline of Ermarian • G4 Strategy Central Posts: 3560 | Registered: Wednesday, November 7 2001 08:00 |
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written Monday, February 13 2006 18:04
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the lolocaust never happened. it's all a conspiracy. -------------------- Slarty vs. Desk • Desk vs. Slarty • Timeline of Ermarian • G4 Strategy Central Posts: 3560 | Registered: Wednesday, November 7 2001 08:00 |
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written Monday, February 13 2006 17:59
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*nod* to what Alex said. In my eyes, Fi and Ti are points on the same continuum, and likewise Fe and Te; there are really two functions at work (say, Ji and Je). -------------------- Slarty vs. Desk • Desk vs. Slarty • Timeline of Ermarian • G4 Strategy Central Posts: 3560 | Registered: Wednesday, November 7 2001 08:00 |
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written Monday, February 13 2006 17:04
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Which reminds me: Delicious Vlish — The Big Poke™ -------------------- Slarty vs. Desk • Desk vs. Slarty • Timeline of Ermarian • G4 Strategy Central Posts: 3560 | Registered: Wednesday, November 7 2001 08:00 |