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Raven v. Writing Desk
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Personally, I think the gameplay has decayed from the beginning. FF1 is easily my favorite combat model. Imagine that, having blows miss is a regular occurance! The (controlled) randomness makes combat much more interesting and fun. 3 and 4 were similar, less challenging but more varied. 5-7 were still decent, but had silly power escalation that removed *all* the challenge. Since then, the yuck factor has continued to increase...

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(In fact, if anyone can name me villains that haven't sucked utterly before OR after FF6+7, I'd be surprised. Chaos, Emperor, Zeromus and Ex-Death have all been quite horrible.)
I actually liked Zande and the Cloud of Darkness at the end of FF3. Back in the 80s that particular storyline was a lot less hackneyed. They also provide some backstory that makes Zemus/Zeromus (and many other parts of FF4) a lot less painful.

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Raven v. Writing Desk
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Well, FF8 was a game that was pretty much devoid of intelligent life forms. Honestly, it gets my vote for worst sequel ever.

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The Spiderweb Instant Custom Title Generator? in General
Raven v. Writing Desk
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Actually, I *did* spend several days wearing a tin foil helmet, last year. I also talked about aliens trying to steal my thoughts. And I got paid for it. Ahh, now that was a wonderful job.

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THE ABOMINABLE PHOTO THREAD REVOLUTIONS in General
Raven v. Writing Desk
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Wow. It's almost like he's trying to compensate for something. But given the quantity of the comments, make that somethings.

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Raven v. Writing Desk
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Wait, no, here's a better one for Aran. "Neighborhood Super Spy." You can never go wrong with Square One music videos.

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Raven v. Writing Desk
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Synergy — Looking Through the Glass
Aran — Domestic Surveillance Program
Thralni — Catthroat Mercenary

-- Slartucker, whose depths are apparently rich and complex :rolleyes:

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Raven v. Writing Desk
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FYT really doesn't mean what it sounds like it does?

BFD, AFGE. DFC! FU, FOAD. WTF, DILLIGAF? LIGAFF. FFS! GFY. JTDC. SNAFU.

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Raven v. Writing Desk
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Heh. I guess I'll join in. This is pretty recent:

IMAGE(http://home.uchicago.edu/~tbennett/tuck-s2.jpg)

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FPS RPG in General
Raven v. Writing Desk
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Interestingly enough, the FPS genre actually grew directly out of the RPG genre. Wolfenstein 3D, the big bang of FPSs, was apparently based largely on Ultima Underworld.

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In Glory I Am Returned in General
Raven v. Writing Desk
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I second Alorael: Line breaks are good.

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What is the best: GF1, GF2 or GF3? / What I must buy now? in Geneforge Series
Raven v. Writing Desk
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Well, the Exile trilogy package did (still does, actually) offer a small discount for each game you'd already registered.

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Helping Jeff advertise in Avernum 4
Raven v. Writing Desk
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So basically, if we can convince some Nephilim to start playing Avernum 4, maybe we'll get some more Nephil icons, eh? ;)

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Raven v. Writing Desk
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I downloaded a copy of Realmz around 1994ish, and a copy of Exile 1.0 came as part of the stuffit archive. Spidweb had some kind of distribution and marketing deal with Fantasoft at the time.

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Helping Jeff advertise in Avernum 4
Raven v. Writing Desk
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Nice point, Shine.

Although I've always wondered why everyone in Exile was so damn tolerant. I suppose being thrown into the underworld for your own differences might make you more tolerant of others -- but for many people, it would probably make them bitter, and make them search out scapegoats. I suppose the nephils and sliths sucked up a lot of the hateful energy, and some of those people ended up in the Abyss. But Exile still seems inconceivably tolerant to me. (Maybe it's better that way.)

...on the other hand, Nance and Elspeth don't seem to be entirely out of the closet. (I suppose I wouldn't be either, in their shoes.)

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Short Stories? in General
Raven v. Writing Desk
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I believe the last incarnation of AppleWorks I used is the one pictured here...

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The nephilim language in The Avernum Trilogy
Raven v. Writing Desk
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Well, I appreciate your saying those things. And I applaud your suspicion of people who claim to know what they're talking about -- many of them don't. But I think one should be suspicious of what you think you know, too. Subjecting your own arguments to the same scrutiny you demand of others is the only way to keep yourself from turning into a pompous airhead. (And yes... I have had in my life occasion to be a pompous airhead :D )

Anyway, I guess I'll contribute my opinion again if you want, though I think you'll understand if I don't debate things. --t

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The nephilim language in The Avernum Trilogy
Raven v. Writing Desk
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I stopped helping because it was getting frustrating, and it felt like I was spinning my wheels. You constantly misinterpreted the statements I made, and answered questions I did not ask.

The genitive is the big thing. It took 2 pages of Kelandon explaining something very simple to you, suggesting your disagreement was related to English/Dutch word differences, and imploring you to look it up yourself -- during which time you repeatedly told us we were wrong -- before you finally looked it up and lo and behold, we weren't wrong. Meanwhile, attempting to address that question another way, I asked you for a reference to substantiate the claim you'd made about Sumerian genitive. Despite clarifying my question many times in very specific terms, you have now offered me references to Akkadian and Hurrian but NOT Sumerian. (No, I do not want the reference anymore!)

As somebody else observed, you seem much more interested in winning an argument than in resolving it according to logic. And you seem more interested in arguing than in producing a grammar that is accurately described and understandable to the reader. That last part, of course, is what I was trying to help with.

I wish you good luck with the grammar, as I said, but I have no interest in helping someone who is going to argue with everything I say.

-- Slartucker, who really should know better than to fan flames, however reasonable he may think he's being

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Raven v. Writing Desk
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Appleworks still exists? Whoa.
Talk about a software suite with a bizarre and discontinuous series of incarnations...

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The nephilim language in The Avernum Trilogy
Raven v. Writing Desk
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Interesting question, wz. Keep in mind, though, that the idea of a universal grammar is FAR from universally accepted.

Personally, I am inclined to think that Chomsky has observed a number of useful patterns that run across languages, but I don't buy most of his theories about grammar operation. Syntactically, in particular, I find it really suspicious that with his UG it's (relatively) simple to get from deep structure to surface structure in English, but in languages with different word order, suddenly you're doing all these twists and turns. Not to mention agglutinative languages... judge for yourself, though.

UG is based largely on generalizable human cognitive structure and development. To the degree that sliths or nephils are cognitively different from humans, they might have a different UG. But it seems to me that (like almost all fantasy/SF races) they are almost identical to us, cognitively. Differences in temperament are as likely to be cultural as anything else, and both seem to be capable of more or less the same stuff humans are capable of.

-- slartucker, who is trying to resist the temptation to reduce everything to Optimality Theory

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Raven v. Writing Desk
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More to the point, Nephilim are definitely omnivorous. They rarely farm (actually... have we ever seen ANY nephils farming?), but plenty of them keep veggies around, in Avernum.

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Has a song ever hit you like a brick? in General
Raven v. Writing Desk
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You know, when I saw this topic, I thought you were talking about music you hated. Heh.

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The nephilim language in The Avernum Trilogy
Raven v. Writing Desk
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Okay, I am so very done here. Thralni, good luck with the language. I hope you are more receptive to constructive criticism you receive in the future.

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Raven v. Writing Desk
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Very nice, Thralni. I like the new color scheme, it's much easier to navigate now.

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Raven v. Writing Desk
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First of all, Cale Johnson, the author of the page I linked to, is at UCLA. Are you thinking of Chuck Jones, who used to run the computer lab at the Oriental Institute? Different person, different name.

Thralni, I was not shooting down your source. The point of my comment about the GAG was that I know, like, and respect it very much! However, it simply did not address the point in contention *whatsoever*.

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I can give tons of references saying what Sumerian uses the genitive for, that is not a problem. What is a problem, is to give references to books, where is said what Sumerian doesn't use the genitive for. I'll await the Hurrian's expert's email, and directly copy and paste it into a post.
And that *is* the problem, Thralni. I was not complaining about your assertions of what the Sumerian genitive *was* for, those were quite correct. I was complaining about your assertions of what it was *not* for -- which you have just admitted you have no evidence for!

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They may be right about the genitive in general terms, but in this specific language, hurrian it is I'm talking about (My language was based on hurrian), I'd rather await what experts on the language have to say
The point that we have been trying to get across to you is that terms like "genitive" are the same no matter what language you apply them to! The English word "genitive" means one thing and one thing only. It may be that in Dutch, the word used for "genitive" is also used for "possessive" and that distinction is not made. That's why Kelandon asked you to do something very specific in order to clarify the issue.

Edit: And you looked it up!!! HALLELUJAH! As we suspected, this is all a translation problem.

Thralni: In English, the case "my" is in is NOT called genitive, it is called possessive. In other words, English uses two different words for genitive and possessive, but Dutch uses the same word for both of them. Therefore, if you are writing in Dutch you are correct to use that word to describe a case that only deals with ownership. But if you are writing in English, you need to check whether "genitive" or "possessive" is the correct word to use. If it only deals with ownership, "possessive" is the correct word.

[ Sunday, January 29, 2006 10:31: Message edited by: Slartucker ]

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The nephilim language in The Avernum Trilogy
Raven v. Writing Desk
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Thralni, I asked for a reference to something very specific. Quoting myself: "Give me a citation for a book or a scholarly article stating that in Sumerian the genitive is only used for possession."

Your reference:
- is about Akkadian, not Sumerian
- does not state that any genitive, let alone the Sumerian genitive, is ONLY used for possession. (I spent many hours buried in the G.A.G. learning cuneiform...)

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