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written Thursday, February 9 2006 14:48
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There are three options. Vote. Poll Information This poll contains 1 question(s). 32 user(s) have voted. You may not view the results of this poll without voting. function launch_voter () { launch_window("http://www.ironycentral.com/cgi-bin/ubb/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=poll;d=vote;pollid=XPdHXyvNuNUX"); return true; } // end launch_voter function launch_viewer () { launch_window("http://www.ironycentral.com/cgi-bin/ubb/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=poll;d=view;pollid=XPdHXyvNuNUX"); return true; } // end launch_viewer function launch_window (url) { preview = window.open( url, "preview", "width=550,height=300,toolbar=no,location=no,directories=no,status,menubar=no,scrollbars,resizable,copyhistory=no" ); window.preview.focus(); return preview; } // end launch_window   -------------------- * Posts: 6936 | Registered: Tuesday, September 18 2001 07:00 |
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Law Bringer
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written Thursday, February 9 2006 15:06
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Uh... I can't even think of a comment. In before the lock? I don't know... -------------------- Gamble with Gaea, and she eats your dice. I hate undead. I really, really, really, really hate undead. With a passion. Posts: 4130 | Registered: Friday, March 26 2004 08:00 |
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Master
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written Thursday, February 9 2006 15:09
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I wonder if it's a good thing I haven't heard of these songs. -------------------- -ben4808 Posts: 3360 | Registered: Friday, June 25 2004 07:00 |
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written Thursday, February 9 2006 15:19
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   [ Thursday, February 09, 2006 21:48: Message edited by: Imban ] -------------------- * Posts: 6936 | Registered: Tuesday, September 18 2001 07:00 |
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Law Bringer
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written Thursday, February 9 2006 15:41
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TM has made it clear that he is referring to the music played during the last battles of Final Fantasies 6, 7, and 8. He has not clarified what prompted this query. Anyone asking TM for a reason probably deserves the likely response. —Alorael, who could live without the particularly painful middle image. Posts: 14579 | Registered: Saturday, December 1 2001 08:00 |
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Law Bringer
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written Thursday, February 9 2006 17:18
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If she (he?!) is walking through the flames like that, I assume she must have some kind of fire immunity. So no pain. But then, I don't know jack about FF. -------------------- Encyclopaedia Ermariana • Forum Archives • Forum Statistics • RSS [Topic / Forum] My Blog • Polaris • I eat novels for breakfast. Polaris is dead, long live Polaris. Look on my works, ye mighty, and despair. Posts: 8752 | Registered: Wednesday, May 14 2003 07:00 |
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Master
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written Thursday, February 9 2006 18:27
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That's a guy :P Oh, and Kefka for the win. -------------------- Polaris - owns you. Undead Theories - double U slash E Posts: 3323 | Registered: Thursday, April 25 2002 07:00 |
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Shake Before Using
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written Thursday, February 9 2006 21:50
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*does a little Sephiroth-swapping, and also votes for his theme* Posts: 3234 | Registered: Thursday, October 4 2001 07:00 |
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written Thursday, February 9 2006 22:03
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quote:You're only saying this because you're a Clyde Arrowny fetishist. -------------------- * Posts: 6936 | Registered: Tuesday, September 18 2001 07:00 |
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Law Bringer
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written Thursday, February 9 2006 22:43
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Considering the fact that of the 3 choices, I've only beaten VII, I guess I'll go for One-Winged Angel. I only ever played VI at a friend's house and thought VIII was a steaming pile of crap. IX, however, that was a great game, the best Final Fantasy, in my opinion. [ Friday, February 10, 2006 10:06: Message edited by: Tyranicus ] -------------------- "You're drinking liquor because you're thirsty? How nasty is your freaking water?" —Lazarus Spiderweb Chat Room Avernum RP • Summaries • OoC • Roster Shadow Vale - My site, home of the Spiderweb Chat Database, BoA Scenario Database, & the A1 Quest List, among other things. Posts: 1556 | Registered: Sunday, November 20 2005 08:00 |
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Master
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written Friday, February 10 2006 05:29
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What is the last image supposed to mean? I can't see any form of life in it. -------------------- Play and rate my scenarios: Where the rivers meet View my upcoming scenario: The Nephil Search: Escape. Give us your drek! Posts: 3029 | Registered: Saturday, June 18 2005 07:00 |
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Raven v. Writing Desk
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written Friday, February 10 2006 06:42
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Well, FF8 was a game that was pretty much devoid of intelligent life forms. Honestly, it gets my vote for worst sequel ever. -------------------- Slarty vs. Desk • Desk vs. Slarty • Timeline of Ermarian • G4 Strategy Central Posts: 3560 | Registered: Wednesday, November 7 2001 08:00 |
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Master
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written Friday, February 10 2006 07:07
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quote::o -------------------- Polaris - owns you. Undead Theories - double U slash E Posts: 3323 | Registered: Thursday, April 25 2002 07:00 |
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Shake Before Using
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written Friday, February 10 2006 10:39
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I liked FF8 a lot more than pretty much any other entry in the series, although FF6 was definitely the most fun. Posts: 3234 | Registered: Thursday, October 4 2001 07:00 |
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Law Bringer
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written Friday, February 10 2006 11:07
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I liked everything but the story and characters in VIII. Of course, VIII wasn't nearly as bad as X-2, and I doubt that I will like XII either. I played the demo that came with Dragonquest VIII, and hated the combat sytem. That system works fine for Kingdom Hearts, but Final Fantasy has always been, and should always be turn-based in the style that all the others have. -------------------- "You're drinking liquor because you're thirsty? How nasty is your freaking water?" —Lazarus Spiderweb Chat Room Avernum RP • Summaries • OoC • Roster Shadow Vale - My site, home of the Spiderweb Chat Database, BoA Scenario Database, & the A1 Quest List, among other things. Posts: 1556 | Registered: Sunday, November 20 2005 08:00 |
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written Friday, February 10 2006 12:13
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Gameplay-wise, it gets pretty close. FF7's Materia is just as good as FF6's Espers, both aren't as good as FF5's Job system, and all three are better than FF8's Draw/Junction system. Mind you, Junctioning is fun, but Draw... Absolute torture. Plot-wise, FF7 for the win. FF6 had an excellent villain and FF8 had believable characters, but FF7's characters beat FF8's and Sephiroth is simply the best villain there is. (In fact, if anyone can name me villains that haven't sucked utterly before OR after FF6+7, I'd be surprised. Chaos, Emperor, Zeromus and Ex-Death have all been quite horrible.) -------------------- * Posts: 6936 | Registered: Tuesday, September 18 2001 07:00 |
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written Friday, February 10 2006 13:25
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I don't like Sephiroth or Kefka. I also do not believe that Sephiroth is the best villian. Ever played Xenosaga? Albedo scares me silly with that laugh of his. -------------------- "Yeah-- you're right. You christians are far too persecuted nowadays. I mean it. We really should stop feeding you to the lions." --TM "Ancient Blessings" My unfinished (and likely to remain that way) BoA scenario. Posts: 135 | Registered: Tuesday, June 22 2004 07:00 |
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written Friday, February 10 2006 15:00
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quote:Your beliefs are wrong. -------------------- * Posts: 6936 | Registered: Tuesday, September 18 2001 07:00 |
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Lifecrafter
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written Friday, February 10 2006 16:10
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Sephiroth gets my vote. Of the Final Fantasy games I've played, Chaos seems to just jump out of nowhere for a final confrontation at the end. Sin/Jecht were to strange, and didnt even seem to be evil, quite unlike Sephiroth. I can't even remember Final Fantasy 2's villain, so it obviously wasn't very inspiring. I think Sephiroth worked so well for me because a lot of time was spent developing his character, and getting to know him. Plus he looks bad and has a big sword. -------------------- Guaranteed to blow your mind. Frostbite: Get It While It's...... Hot? Posts: 900 | Registered: Monday, August 8 2005 07:00 |
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written Friday, February 10 2006 16:57
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I loved FF9, but the endboss was ridiculous. SPOILERS! . . . . . . You finally beat Kuja, the man who has been manipulating people and destroying cities. Suddenly, with literally no previous mention or even hint of his existance whatsoever, you have to fight Necron. Who the hell is Necron? Why did they need a big cliched god of death that just comes out of nowhere? Nobody really knows. They should have made Kuja harder and just wrapped everything up right then instead of dragging it out with some stupid random fight. -------------------- My Myspace, with some of my audial and visual art The Lyceum - The Headquarters of the Blades designing community The Louvre - The Blades of Avernum graphics database Alexandria - The Blades of Exile Scenario database BoE Webring - Self explanatory Polaris - Free porn here Odd Todd - Fun for the unemployed (and everyone else too) They Might Be Giants - Four websites for one of the greatest bands in existance -------------------- 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 Posts: 2957 | Registered: Thursday, October 4 2001 07:00 |
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written Friday, February 10 2006 17:38
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What can be said? FF9 was supposed to be reminiscent of the "classics". Chaos? Zeromus? Neo X-Deth? There is an elusive pattern being formed here. -------------------- * Posts: 6936 | Registered: Tuesday, September 18 2001 07:00 |
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Raven v. Writing Desk
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written Friday, February 10 2006 19:46
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Personally, I think the gameplay has decayed from the beginning. FF1 is easily my favorite combat model. Imagine that, having blows miss is a regular occurance! The (controlled) randomness makes combat much more interesting and fun. 3 and 4 were similar, less challenging but more varied. 5-7 were still decent, but had silly power escalation that removed *all* the challenge. Since then, the yuck factor has continued to increase... quote:I actually liked Zande and the Cloud of Darkness at the end of FF3. Back in the 80s that particular storyline was a lot less hackneyed. They also provide some backstory that makes Zemus/Zeromus (and many other parts of FF4) a lot less painful. -------------------- Slarty vs. Desk • Desk vs. Slarty • Timeline of Ermarian • G4 Strategy Central Posts: 3560 | Registered: Wednesday, November 7 2001 08:00 |
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Law Bringer
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written Friday, February 10 2006 20:00
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quote:I agree. Final Fantasy IX is by far my favorite, followed by VII. The end battle sequence was extremely dissapointing, however. Kuja was a pretty dumb villain anyway. -------------------- "You're drinking liquor because you're thirsty? How nasty is your freaking water?" —Lazarus Spiderweb Chat Room Avernum RP • Summaries • OoC • Roster Shadow Vale - My site, home of the Spiderweb Chat Database, BoA Scenario Database, & the A1 Quest List, among other things. Posts: 1556 | Registered: Sunday, November 20 2005 08:00 |
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written Friday, February 10 2006 20:22
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"Personally, I think the gameplay has decayed from the beginning. FF1 is easily my favorite combat model. Imagine that, having blows miss is a regular occurance!" I like the idea of missing, but I don't like the idea of feeling like you're going through the same motions at the beginning of the game. FF combat systems are nice because they offer you a bit of reprieve from the mundane for a good, long while- when did you have Jobs/Espers/Materia/Junctions etc mastered? Probably your second playthrough. FF1 doesn't give you any such luxury. "I actually liked Zande and the Cloud of Darkness at the end of FF3. Back in the 80s that particular storyline was a lot less hackneyed." Can't comment; haven't gotten a copy of FF3 yet since it hasn't been ported and fansubs are elusive. "They also provide some backstory that makes Zemus/Zeromus (and many other parts of FF4) a lot less painful." Nothing can make "he's an evil moon spirit" less painful. -------------------- * Posts: 6936 | Registered: Tuesday, September 18 2001 07:00 |
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Raven v. Writing Desk
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written Friday, February 10 2006 23:22
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On Jobs/Espers/Materia/etc -- I have mixed feelings about all those systems. Initially, they are cool, and are usually a lot of fun for a while. But, and this goes to the old Spidweb debate about open-ended character design vs character classes, the systems annoy me because they tend to erode differences between characters. This was especially true in FF6, where anyone could learn any spell, and few special abilities were better than spells. Last time I played it, I did it without ever equipping Espers, and the game was honestly a lot more fun. OTOH I like being forced to find the best way to use, say, a Bl.WIZ with limiting characteristics but also unique spells. *shrug* Personal preference I guess. There's a good FF3 patch out there, which you can use to emulate it in English. I don't remember who did the patch, but it's been out for at least five or six years now. FF3 is a really wonderful game. It plays a lot like FF4, but has class changing somewhat similar to FF5, and none of the annoying whiny characters that plague both 4 and 5. It introduces [I]so many[/I} FF mainstays: chocobos, espers, moogles, spells, most of the classes. And yeah, the whole Lunarian thing is hard to salvage. With the backstory, though, the crystals and the light/dark balance become much more important, which helps. -------------------- Slarty vs. Desk • Desk vs. Slarty • Timeline of Ermarian • G4 Strategy Central Posts: 3560 | Registered: Wednesday, November 7 2001 08:00 |
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