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What continent do you live on? (in which the voices take over) in General
Nuke and Pave
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quote:
Originally written by Sproing:

Speaking of Russia, which continent/part of the world is it included in? Europe?

(I know, try Wikipedia. But I'm lazy.)

Russia is usually considered a European country, because culturally it is a lot closer to Europe than to Asia. Geographically, most of Russian territory is in Asia, but most of the population lives in the European part.

Turkey is another country whose main territory lies in both Europe and Asia, but its European holdings are tiny. (Just large enough to qualify for EU membership. :) )

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Be careful with a word, as you would with a sword,
For it too has the power to kill.
However well placed word, unlike a well placed sword,
Can also have the power to heal.
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Peer Review Process (was Evolution Stuff (was What is Religion, exactly?)) in General
Nuke and Pave
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Profile Homepage #178
Creator, or any other creationist, could you give a precise definition of the difference between micro-evolution and macro-evolution. That would make your position much more clear.

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Originally written by Major:

I have found this argument getting quite pointless. You don’t want me (or any creationists) to give you websites quotes or anything like that. And yet, you force me to look at websites by giving information without proof and exposing me to the terrible influence of quotes. (Which are probably on the websites.)
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Major, do you know what "scientific journals" are?

*i didn't give you links to websites. He gave you references to scientific journals you should find in the library. The difference between a website and a scientific journal is that any idiot can make a webpage, but before any article is published in a journal like "Nature", it is reviewed by best experts in the field to make sure that it's correct.

If you can find an article in a real journal that proves your position, we'll look at it. Otherwise, I can just make a page that "proves" that Earth is flat and give you a link to it.

[ Friday, June 02, 2006 19:49: Message edited by: Zeviz ]

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Be careful with a word, as you would with a sword,
For it too has the power to kill.
However well placed word, unlike a well placed sword,
Can also have the power to heal.
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What continent do you live on? (in which the voices take over) in General
Nuke and Pave
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The distinction Ford Perfect gave (5 "continents" and 7 "parts of the world") is what the conventions are in Russia. (As taught in Geography classes in school.) I guess the conventions for what counts as a continent in other countries are different.

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Be careful with a word, as you would with a sword,
For it too has the power to kill.
However well placed word, unlike a well placed sword,
Can also have the power to heal.
Posts: 2649 | Registered: Wednesday, October 3 2001 07:00
Game Cost? in The Exile Trilogy
Nuke and Pave
Member # 24
Profile Homepage #7
quote:
Originally written by eastonb:

...Followup question: Can I order the games to download rather than ordering a CD and paying shipping costs? I have a fast internet connection, so the size of the games wouldn't be an issue for me, but I could see them not wanting to sell the games that way since it might consume a lot of bandwidth for them.
You can download the games and ask for registration codes (see order form for details). However, shipping cost (in the US) is only 2$, so it's not that expensive to just get a CD and not worry about having to backup your registration.

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Be careful with a word, as you would with a sword,
For it too has the power to kill.
However well placed word, unlike a well placed sword,
Can also have the power to heal.
Posts: 2649 | Registered: Wednesday, October 3 2001 07:00
G3 Dialog options and plot line in Geneforge Series
Nuke and Pave
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Profile Homepage #12
quote:
Originally written by Delicious Vlish:

In all reality, the Awakened are just Takers with sweeter words and empty promises... With very strong Shaper tendencies to enslave other creatures.
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Awakened are a group of serviles supported by a single Shaper, who is mainly conserned by his own experiments. (Tuldarik even abandons Barrier of Wind, requiring your help to complete it.) How would they manage to "enslave" a single Drakon, when even Dryaks were deemed to independent for skilled Shapers to control? And how do they "enslave" a whole army of creatures each of whom could destroy a significant portion of their army and is at least as intelligent as they are?

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... They speak a great deal of peace and bartering, but are preparing an army to take what they need by force.

At least the Rebels are more open about what they want and don't try to hide their real agenda under a thin veil of pretty words.
The Awakened ending of G2 makes it very clear that they fight only as much as necessary to defend their home. They never attempt to conquer any territory outside their valley and accept all cease-fire offers.

Rebels and Takers are explicitly trying to destroy all Shapers. I don't think finding a remote valley to live in and defending it is as bad as trying to wipe out all Shapers and everybody who supports them.

[ Thursday, June 01, 2006 11:31: Message edited by: Zeviz ]

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Be careful with a word, as you would with a sword,
For it too has the power to kill.
However well placed word, unlike a well placed sword,
Can also have the power to heal.
Posts: 2649 | Registered: Wednesday, October 3 2001 07:00
Peer Review Process (was Evolution Stuff (was What is Religion, exactly?)) in General
Nuke and Pave
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Going back to original topic of the thread, the way I use the term is that "religion" is a set of beliefs about the origins, working of, and future of the world, including a moral code and some prescriptions for living a daily life. The prescriptions could be anything from "throw a portion of your harvest into the volcano every season" to "say certain prayers at certain times each day" to "work as hard as you can and treat everybody fairly".

I use the term "religious" to indicate a person whose religious beliefs strongly influence his daily life. For example, if the person doesn't steal because "that would make god angry", he is religious, while if he doesn't steal because "it's illegal", or "I just think it's wrong", he isn't.

[ Tuesday, May 30, 2006 16:11: Message edited by: Zeviz ]

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Be careful with a word, as you would with a sword,
For it too has the power to kill.
However well placed word, unlike a well placed sword,
Can also have the power to heal.
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Some interesting questions in General
Nuke and Pave
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Profile Homepage #12
I think in the language appropriate for the situation: If I am thinking about English-language material or about speaking to Americans, I think in English. If I am thinking about Russian books or speaking to Russians, I think in Russian. And when I was studying German in school, I would sometimes think of random German phrases.

About accent marks, they aren't necessary unless placement of accent impacts the meaning. In those cases accent marks are used already (at least in Russian). Phonetic spelling in English would be very helpful, and American English seems to be moving in that direction already with pronouncing of silent 'r', and other changes to pronunciation and spelling to make the two more similar.

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Be careful with a word, as you would with a sword,
For it too has the power to kill.
However well placed word, unlike a well placed sword,
Can also have the power to heal.
Posts: 2649 | Registered: Wednesday, October 3 2001 07:00
Playing on Torment in Geneforge Series
Nuke and Pave
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Playing a game or studying for finals ... Studying for finals or playing a game ... I wonder which option is more appealing. :)

Considering that procrastination causes people to do unusual things like cleaning their rooms and picking up old hobbies, I don't think playing a game is that unusual. :)

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Be careful with a word, as you would with a sword,
For it too has the power to kill.
However well placed word, unlike a well placed sword,
Can also have the power to heal.
Posts: 2649 | Registered: Wednesday, October 3 2001 07:00
Tweaking G3 in Geneforge Series
Nuke and Pave
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quote:
Originally written by Little Billy Sue:

Wow. This is a great idea. Jeff could even release it as a patch. (Yes, Jeff. A patch. Don't be scared. It won't hurt you.)
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The chance of Jeff putting this kind of balance tweaks into a patch is exactly 0%. However, Slarty could make his own mod, by zipping up all modified files.

Talking about mods, what happened to the idea of scripting in extra quests and changing some dialogue that I've heard floating around during the G1 editor craze? Did anybody ever do a mod that was more involved than just an editor?

[ Tuesday, May 30, 2006 15:26: Message edited by: Zeviz ]

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Be careful with a word, as you would with a sword,
For it too has the power to kill.
However well placed word, unlike a well placed sword,
Can also have the power to heal.
Posts: 2649 | Registered: Wednesday, October 3 2001 07:00
Visions of the future. (was: It's my turn to spam.) in General
Nuke and Pave
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Profile Homepage #25
Thank you to everybody for the congratulations. :)

Diki, thank you for the very funny script. Unfortunately now that you've shown that you know too much, I have to present you with this toaster. To turn it on, just press this big red button. :)

quote:
Originally written by Ash Lael:

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You started this thread with post 1980, the next one was post 1984, and next you will make posts 2000 and 2001?

Yes, this is the first meaning of the pictures: mascot of 1980 Olympics, Big Brother from the novel "1984", a cartoon about year 2000 bug, and a movie "2001: A Space Odyssey". Since people's postcounts often change shortly after a celebration thread is posted, the threads no longer reflect correct postcount, so I chose a range of pictures to keep them relevant longer.

This series of pictures also has another meaning, giving this thread a more valid reason to exist: The pictures represent 4 different visions of the future.

IMAGE(http://www.olympic.org/upload/games/1980S_mascot_b.jpg)
I chose Moscow Olympics to represent the Communist utopia, a communist society where everybody is equal and there is no poverty, but no unusual wealth either. Everybody is happy, friendly, etc. (Ask TM for details. :) )

IMAGE(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/8/8c/Bbc19842.jpg)
Big Brother represents a dystopia, the negative version of the heaven-on-earth described above. In dystopian society the world is a very unpleasant place controlled by nearly omnipotent evil entities which can be governments, corporations, or some other small groups.

IMAGE(http://www.xenus.com/postcard/graphics/glasbergen/y2k_14.gif)
Some speculations about Y2K bug said that the world would go back to stone age because of massive failures of electronic equipment. So the cartoon above represents an idea that some disaster will cause massive failure of society, possibly throwing us back to stone age. This disaster could include not only technological problems, but things like nuclear war, massive wars caused by global warming, etc. (In this cartoon a shaman is trying to "cure" a computer, which seems representative of the worlds of post-apocalyptic novels.)

IMAGE(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/9/9b/Dawn1.JPG/350px-Dawn1.JPG)
Finally, the movie 2001 represents the opposite of the vision described above. The movie represents society similar to the one of its day, but more technologically advanced (commercial space flights, etc.) and with less political hostility (no Cold War). The idea here is that the world will go on as it always had, with technological progress slightly improving quality of life, but causing no major social changes.

Which of these visions of the future seems more accurate to you? Where will the world be 50-100 years from now?

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Be careful with a word, as you would with a sword,
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However well placed word, unlike a well placed sword,
Can also have the power to heal.
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Dan Brown Book... in General
Nuke and Pave
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Profile Homepage #6
quote:
Originally written by Student of Trinity:

Never read The Da Vinci Code. Before it got big I read his earlier book Angels & Demons which was intensely silly: set in the present day, but it turns out that the Europeans are about a hundred years ahead of the US scientifically. This is only a surprise because the notoriously parochial American media has not bothered to report spaceplanes and antimatter. Yet when a terrible plot with deep roots in European history emerges, those brilliant European scientists call in a Harvard professor. It's a good thing they do, though, because the secrets of the Illuminati turn out to be typographical tricks with English words. Did I forget to mention it all happens in a papal election?
Talking about that, is it even theoretically possible to make a suitcase-sized anti-matter container? From what I understand you need keep the particles cycling in a particle-accelerator-like containment ring several hundred meters in diameter to keep them from touching the walls, so just slapping a couple of magnets into a capsule's walls isn't going to do it.

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Be careful with a word, as you would with a sword,
For it too has the power to kill.
However well placed word, unlike a well placed sword,
Can also have the power to heal.
Posts: 2649 | Registered: Wednesday, October 3 2001 07:00
Why I did not like Geneforge 3 in Geneforge Series
Nuke and Pave
Member # 24
Profile Homepage #36
quote:
Originally written by Spidweb:

I think that the dialogue option choices worked reasonably well, but I have removed them entirely from Geneforge 4. Now everything faction-wise is determined by what quests you decide to complete or how you complete them.

I have my worries about the new system, but I think it'll be a bit more interesting overall.

- Jeff Vogel

Sounds good. :)

If the view of the world is even bleaker than that of Gf3, I might still not buy it (the whole RL is bad enough without RPing a dystopia thing), but I will dislike it less if my character isn't forced to act like a snob if he wants to save the area from monsters. I am not saying that I would only play a "heroes save the world" kind of game, but I'd like an option of a more sane group, even if the best ending only allows that group to get a bit of land to survive on (or even simply escape into exile and thrive there).

quote:
Originally written by Student of Trinity:

On the other hand, the games are by no means blind to the desirability of better options. You have to join a side in order to finish G3, but staying true enough to your side in order to win just means completing a few key actions. It is perfectly possible, for instance, to eliminate most of the rogues in the game while playing as a Rebel; and you can help the most sympathetic rebels while playing as a Loyalist. The game works fine, for me, if my character is a reluctant Loyalist or wavering Rebel.
The idea of "role playing" is to play a role, seeing the world through your character's eyes. While what you suggest is perfectly viable way to play the game, it makes no sence from your character's point of view: you kill most rogues, but then help their creators re-create them. It would be similar to joinin Wermaht in WW2, helping win several major battles, and then assasinating Hitler, because you were supporting Stalin all along. As long as your final action in the game is to support the Rebels, you are helping the creation of rogue invasions throughout Shaper lands, regardless of what you do to the rogues on your own islands.

EDIT: About conversation options, I am not against them in general, in fact I liked them in early games. I just disliked the fact that in some cases the only available responces were too extreme and even if acceptable, they would forse you into the side opposite from your actions. I guess I just gave up on the game before finding people like Khyryk.

[ Thursday, May 25, 2006 11:23: Message edited by: Zeviz ]

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Be careful with a word, as you would with a sword,
For it too has the power to kill.
However well placed word, unlike a well placed sword,
Can also have the power to heal.
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Xylgham udwlnit skretcko!1!! in General
Nuke and Pave
Member # 24
Profile Homepage #207
quote:
Originally written by Lazarus.:

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The only chance of ever seeing something similar in the form of a game is fan-made BOX scenarios. Which, I might add, I'm now seriously considering for my next project.

TM's Inn of Blades was full of cameos of forum members, which helped increase its ratings. Of course just throwing a bunch of cameos together doesn't make a good scenario, but if you can turn this script into a fun scenario (and Dikiyoba permits it), that might be fun. (It would probably be better as a BoE scenario, because I suspect there are more forum members with only BoE than with only BoA.)

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For it too has the power to kill.
However well placed word, unlike a well placed sword,
Can also have the power to heal.
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Why I did not like Geneforge 3 in Geneforge Series
Nuke and Pave
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Profile Homepage #6
quote:
Originally written by Student of Trinity:

Maybe I'm forgetting some of the plot; what I recall is that there are lots of opportunities for evil things, but the only people you really have to kill are leaders committed to one cause or the other, and that would seem to fall under the RPG version of 'just war' theory. It's true that both sides have their objectionable points, but both sides can also be interpreted as pursuing just goals by necessary means. And G1 and G2 were both like that, too.
G1 and G2 had Awakened, whose policy was to do the minimal amount of violence nesessary to survive. In G3 your choise is between a tyrannical Shaper regime which is portrayed in a very negative light and the power-hungry rebel group whose tactic is to kill innocent bystanders just to steer things up.

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Is it that you feel there are morally superior choices available within the G3 circumstances, which the game arbitrarily denies to you as options? Or is it that you want the game to be a fantasy of morality as well as of magic, where circumstances never force you to choose among evils, but always include a purely good alternative?
If we are compairing things to real world, then it's G3 which is unrealistic in the black and black worldview it presents. It portrays the sides so starkly that your only options look like a choise between joining SS or KGB. I think you'll agree that people like Hitler and Stalin aren't the only leaders in the real world and there are few situations in which the only paths available lead to genocide (pro-Shaper ending of G2), or world war to gain personal power (Taker ending of G2).

EDIT: As for the possible morally superior choices besides Awakened, what about Shaper-like group without the whole "lick my boots, slave" thing (magic has to be controlled, but that doesn't give us the right to treat people like slaves). And/or a rebel group that is more careful in its methods and whose goal was removal of shaper tyranny with as few casualties as possible, rather than "teh powar!!!111" by any means.

EDIT2 [in responce to DV's post below]: You've just completely spoiled Geneforge for me. :P There are enough moral ambiguities in the real world to not have to also worry about them in computer games. I play games to have fun, rather than to deal with situations that are even worse than RL.

[ Tuesday, May 23, 2006 15:45: Message edited by: Zeviz ]

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However well placed word, unlike a well placed sword,
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Why I did not like Geneforge 3 in Geneforge Series
Nuke and Pave
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This is actually one of the reason I abandoned Gf3 after Dhonal's island. I found myself stuck, because I was giving reasonable (usually pro-servile, or neutral) opinions, while doing loyalist quests.

I know that Jeff is trying to make a point that "war is hell", but he does a good job of making both sides so repulsive that I don't want to join either of them. Neither the "lick my boots, slaves" Shapers, nor the "let's fill the land with monsters that kill any innocent villager they catch and prevent villagers from earning a living just to prove our point" Rebels look like an acceptable choice for a decent character.

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Be careful with a word, as you would with a sword,
For it too has the power to kill.
However well placed word, unlike a well placed sword,
Can also have the power to heal.
Posts: 2649 | Registered: Wednesday, October 3 2001 07:00
Living Tools in Geneforge Series
Nuke and Pave
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With living tools, you don't really "have to" use them anywhere. Most of the locked doors contain just treasure that you can live without. So you can use them anywhere you want.

If you find all doors requiring a lot of living tools, it's time to boost your mechanics skill. You could even skip all locked doors until later and come back with more mechanics.

There are also some doors that you aren't supposed to unlock. Such doors can be unlocked only by spending 5-10 living tools. If that is the case, the door isn't really supposed to be unlocked that way and should be unlocked by a key you find, or by talking to some character. So if you want to save living tools it's a good idea to talk to everybody in town and do their quests before you start unlocking heavily locked doors.

[ Tuesday, May 23, 2006 14:18: Message edited by: Zeviz ]

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Be careful with a word, as you would with a sword,
For it too has the power to kill.
However well placed word, unlike a well placed sword,
Can also have the power to heal.
Posts: 2649 | Registered: Wednesday, October 3 2001 07:00
Character builds in Geneforge Series
Nuke and Pave
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Profile Homepage #14
quote:
Originally written by Student of Trinity:

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If not, what would it take to make a squad leader?

Playing on easier difficulty level. :P

More seriously, effective builds depend on difficulty and what game you are talking about. I suspect that abusing Parry in Gf2 would let you use any guardian you want, as long as you had 15+ Parry and used the Guardian as a bait, while your creation(s) held back and used ranged attack.

Similarly with difficulty levels, a build that is good for Torment, might be less effective on Normal or Easy. (If every weak Fyora can kill an enemy in 1 hit, a swarm of weak creatures is more effective than a couple of strong ones, because there is no bonus for overkill.) Similarly, stunning is less effective on normal difficulty, because it's easier to just kill an enemy faster using a more damaging creation than to stun them using a Vlish.

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Be careful with a word, as you would with a sword,
For it too has the power to kill.
However well placed word, unlike a well placed sword,
Can also have the power to heal.
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Ghosts of Stalin in General
Nuke and Pave
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quote:
Originally written by The Worst Man Ever:

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What I find most amusing is that, unless I am muddling my history here, all of this is from someone who fled the Soviet Union.

So his having a grudge might be, how you say, more reasonable.

Your idea is correct, but since my parents weren't involved in dissident movement and we left the country 3 years after USSR's collapse, "fled the USSR" implies something more dramatic than what actually happened. (To me "fled USSR" implies being a dissident persecuted by KGB.) However, you are right that I have more personal reasons to dislike USSR, than an American kid who hasn't learned that the Cold War is over.

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However well placed word, unlike a well placed sword,
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Ghosts of Stalin in General
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These threads remind me of the mother in the movie "Good Bye, Lenin!" (News flash: The Cold War has been over for 15 years. No extra points will be awarded for goals scored after everybody has left the stadium.)

And even if the game was still going, introduction of non-native species was the least of the things Stalin did. Even if severe environmental damage is the only thing you care about, you have better examples, like [former]Aral Sea.

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However well placed word, unlike a well placed sword,
Can also have the power to heal.
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Xylgham udwlnit skretcko!1!! in General
Nuke and Pave
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Profile Homepage #192
quote:
Originally written by Yours Sincerely, The Boogyman.:

I demand a place in the next Act. Use me as you see fit.
quote:
Originally written by Major:

I'll make some requests. That I be in the next scene, that I become the hero, and that the next scene is out in a hour.
Be careful what you wish for... :P

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Custom starting party not always best in Avernum 4
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quote:
Originally written by Mike Montgomery:

Some of the walkthroughs and posts indicate that a custom starting party is always best. The logic here is that though the preconstructed classes would take more skill points to build, there are many things you would leave out in a custom build.
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If I am not mistaken, earlier Avernums imposed less of a skillpoint penalty on custom classes and included more random skills (like completely useless First Aid of earlier Avernums), so the advice to always go with custom might be a holdover from those games.

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However well placed word, unlike a well placed sword,
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The Big Club Theory in General
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quote:
Originally written by Little Billy Sue:

Why must all involved philosophical debate topics eventually devolve into spam?
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Because otherwise they'd burn up in flames. :)

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Geneforge 3 in Geneforge Series
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I prefer Shapers, because they fit best to the theme of the game. Every RPG has fighters and mages, but the idea of magically creating your own army is unique to Geneforge. (I am sure it's been done before, but I haven't seen it in any other game.)

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Be careful with a word, as you would with a sword,
For it too has the power to kill.
However well placed word, unlike a well placed sword,
Can also have the power to heal.
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Items to hold on to in Geneforge Series
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If you are talking about mundane items, the only quest items are Herbs and Shaper Tools. So you can sell things like Iron Bars and Paper. There are a couple quests that require use of common items like hammer or tea cup, but those items are freely available everywhere, so you don't need to save them ahead of time.

As for forging ingredients, check Schrodinger's faq ( http://www.gamefaqs.com/computer/doswin/game/928999.html ) for recepies. Or just keep a couple copies of each unusual item and largely ignore forging early on.

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For it too has the power to kill.
However well placed word, unlike a well placed sword,
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The Bullseye Shaper in Geneforge Series
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This is an interesting idea. I am surprised your shaper was better than guardian, sonce missiles are supposed to be guardian's specialty.

How does this build compare to [my favorite] deadweight shaper? If you didn't invest into missiles and dexterity, you would be able to buy several more levels of intelligence, making your creation army even stronger. And instead of using equipment that boosts your combat skills, you could be using equipment that boosts your creation stats, further improving your creation army. Is the sacrifice in the stats of your 5 creations worth the benefit of becoming a good missile user yourself?

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However well placed word, unlike a well placed sword,
Can also have the power to heal.
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