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What do you think of A4 in Avernum 4
Zeviz
Nuke and Pave
Member # 24
 written Wednesday, July 5 2006 12:49 Profile Homepage #31
About difficulty, when I first loaded the game I wanted to see what the graphics looked like, so I took pre-made party, didn't get any equipment besides the sword you have to take, and headed to the fort to the east through nephil lands. I made it to the checkpoint, where I got swarmed. Later, after a little more experience with the game, I tried the same challenge and got to the fort, killing the evil Nephil chief in the process. (I had to return to town 3 times to heal/resurrect and there were several reloads involved.) So I guess the game is very easy, if the default party with no equipment can skip starting areas and quests and still survive. This is probably due to monster AI which causes monsters to attack one at a time, with archers wasting all their APs getting in range of my fighters.

As for the game itself, I've figured out what the problem is for me: Everquest influence. Earlier SW games were influenced by older CRPGs that focused on story and game world, while A4 seems to take its inspiration from MMORPGs, with their focus on endless hack'n'slash combat. In A4, the lack of outdoor map combined with a constant stream of enemies that come at you one or two at a time make the whole game feel like one massive dungeon. And when I want to play a game that's one massive dungeon crawl, I prefer Diablo. So unless Jeff is trying to outdo Diablo and MMORPGs, I'd prefer if he stuck to making games with better stories/world and less hack'n'slash focus.

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Be careful with a word, as you would with a sword,
For it too has the power to kill.
However well placed word, unlike a well placed sword,
Can also have the power to heal.
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Anonymity and online identity, yet again. in General
Zeviz
Nuke and Pave
Member # 24
 written Wednesday, July 5 2006 12:20 Profile Homepage #79
quote:
Originally written by Drakefyre:

I know someone whose parents took half of each of their last names and combined them to create their kid's name.
I know a couple who considered doing a similar merger for their own last names, but decided that a math professor Dr. Goldbrain wasn't a good idea.

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Be careful with a word, as you would with a sword,
For it too has the power to kill.
However well placed word, unlike a well placed sword,
Can also have the power to heal.
Posts: 2649 | Registered: Wednesday, October 3 2001 07:00
Bride of the Abominable Photo Thread in General
Zeviz
Nuke and Pave
Member # 24
 written Wednesday, July 5 2006 12:10 Profile Homepage #72
quote:
Originally written by *i:

I suppose I can post a couple pics that describe me:
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IMAGE(http://www.hollywoodjesus.com/movie/lotr_feature/extrotk_04.jpg)
Another shocking revealation in this photo thread! Dintiradan is Stareye's extra account! I knew this picture looked familiar somehow, but I had to check old photo threads to make sure.

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Be careful with a word, as you would with a sword,
For it too has the power to kill.
However well placed word, unlike a well placed sword,
Can also have the power to heal.
Posts: 2649 | Registered: Wednesday, October 3 2001 07:00
Favorite Television Shows in General
Zeviz
Nuke and Pave
Member # 24
 written Friday, June 30 2006 12:54 Profile Homepage #12
I watched Babylon 5 and had watched Star Trek until I realised that all Star Trek episodes fit one of a few templates and I can tell how it's going to end 5 minutes into the show. Babylon 5 was much better because it had a continuous storyline with each episode working to advance the main plot.

However, I haven't watched TV in a long time, because now I have a computer for the time I want to waste in front of a screen.

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Be careful with a word, as you would with a sword,
For it too has the power to kill.
However well placed word, unlike a well placed sword,
Can also have the power to heal.
Posts: 2649 | Registered: Wednesday, October 3 2001 07:00
Best game in General
Zeviz
Nuke and Pave
Member # 24
 written Friday, June 30 2006 12:46 Profile Homepage #18
It's funny to watch the people screaming "spam" at one of only 4 topics on page 1 that are actually relevant to forum's description "A general discussion forum for our company and games."

As for my answer to this question: it's hard to say. I like each Geneforge game taken individulally more than the corresponding Avernum game (with the exception of A2, which is one of my favorite games). However, Avernum is better as a series, because every game is significantly different, while all 3 Geneforges tell the same story of a Shaper apprentice encountering intelligent serviles, etc, etc.

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Be careful with a word, as you would with a sword,
For it too has the power to kill.
However well placed word, unlike a well placed sword,
Can also have the power to heal.
Posts: 2649 | Registered: Wednesday, October 3 2001 07:00
Family Sizes in General
Zeviz
Nuke and Pave
Member # 24
 written Friday, June 30 2006 12:34 Profile Homepage #19
I don't have any siblings. I have 3 cousins on mother's side and no aunts/uncles on father's side of the family.

It looks like two members have 66 siblings. I wonder what species visit these forums, because it would be pretty hard for a human to have that many. (Unless they have 11 siblings and checked all boxes because 10, 9, 8, ... are subsets of 11.)

[ Friday, June 30, 2006 12:35: Message edited by: Zeviz ]

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Be careful with a word, as you would with a sword,
For it too has the power to kill.
However well placed word, unlike a well placed sword,
Can also have the power to heal.
Posts: 2649 | Registered: Wednesday, October 3 2001 07:00
weight suggestion for G4 in Geneforge Series
Zeviz
Nuke and Pave
Member # 24
 written Friday, June 30 2006 11:36 Profile Homepage #3
SoT recently posted a very good way to get rid of annoyance of carrying loot without getting rid of encumrance for the pack:

quote:
Originally written by Student of Trinity:

Encumbrance is a good way to force tactical choices, but I agree that it is merely tedious when all it really does is force you to trudge through an area again in order to pick up all the loot.

What I'd suggest is keeping encumbrance, but allowing the player to Fedex loot to towns, by means of a variant of A4's portal technology. Have a mode or a button or something that makes it so that you can click on things, and designate them to be carried away by creations when you leave the zone. The items thus designated will arrive at a specific spot in any friendly town that you have explored. So I guess you'd have to have some way to choose the destinations from among known friendly towns.

This seems to me to be plausible for Shapers, much easier to implement than pack mules, and wonderfully convenient for the player. And while it would make carrying treasure very easy, it would not help at all with carrying items that you need to actually use. The encumbrance limits for those could even be lowered, now that the PC doesn't need to carry any treasure.

A nice added feature would be the ability to sell items directly from their arrival point, without the need to go and pick them up and carry them to the merchants.
An extension of the last paragraph is that perhaps you could designate the auto-carriers to take items directly to a shop, so you'd find the gold at the pickup point without having to separately pick up and sell every robe and dagger that you find.

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Be careful with a word, as you would with a sword,
For it too has the power to kill.
However well placed word, unlike a well placed sword,
Can also have the power to heal.
Posts: 2649 | Registered: Wednesday, October 3 2001 07:00
Teleportation memory. in Blades of Exile
Zeviz
Nuke and Pave
Member # 24
 written Thursday, June 29 2006 16:12 Profile Homepage #1
I can't think of any way to be able to get back to a random position in a random town, so here are some possible alternatives:

1. Allow the item to be used only in specific places of specific towns. (Make it triggered by a special on the ground, rather than item use.) Use an SDF to store the number of location where the item is used, and use that value to figure out where to send player when returning. (If 1, send to (21,20) in town 3; if 2, send to (12,31) in town 1; etc.) This is the easiest to explain to the player: amulet is activated at an altar, or something like that.

2. Allow the item to be used anywhere, but always send the player to specific spot in town of origin when he comes back. (If returning to town 1, send to (14,23); if going to town 2, send to (29,5); etc.) This will be much harder to explain to the player. In fact, I can't think of a plausible explanation.

3. The easiest thing to do is just let the player exit new town normally, which would put him outdoors, next to the last town he entered. However, this is the hardest to explain to the player.

4. If your entire scenario consists of very few small towns and your extra town is also small, you can use large towns for your scenario towns and hide a copy of extra town in the opposite corner of the map for each town where the item can be used. Then use Split Party to send one of the characters into your town and Reunite Party to send him back.

[ Thursday, June 29, 2006 16:14: Message edited by: Zeviz ]

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Be careful with a word, as you would with a sword,
For it too has the power to kill.
However well placed word, unlike a well placed sword,
Can also have the power to heal.
Posts: 2649 | Registered: Wednesday, October 3 2001 07:00
Anonymity and online identity, yet again. in General
Zeviz
Nuke and Pave
Member # 24
 written Thursday, June 29 2006 13:01 Profile Homepage #70
quote:
Originally written by VCH:

... Its like if "Bob Simpson and Sandy Roberts" had a kid = Ben Roberts-Simpson. Mine is better with its alliteration "RR". Is this common someplace in the world? I'm just now thinking of some old countries in Europe perhaps.
This was reasonably common for aristocracy, probably when the wife's family was more important than the husband's, so the children got both names. Maybe this happened when the woman was the only hier, so her children inherited her title, but this is just a guess.

The hyphenated names also seem somewhat popular in modern America, as a compromise when the wife doesn't want to take husband's name, but the couple still wants to have the same name.

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Be careful with a word, as you would with a sword,
For it too has the power to kill.
However well placed word, unlike a well placed sword,
Can also have the power to heal.
Posts: 2649 | Registered: Wednesday, October 3 2001 07:00
Yet another in General
Zeviz
Nuke and Pave
Member # 24
 written Wednesday, June 28 2006 12:26 Profile Homepage #33
HAVE YOU EVER

SMOKED?
Since I am neither a car with bad engine nor a burning toast, no.
GOTTEN DRUNK?
It's kind of hard to do when you never drink more than a quarter of a wine glass throughout an evening.
STOLE YOUR FRIEND'S BF/GF?
I don't do kidnappings, and ransom wouldn't be very high anyway.
PLAYED SPIN THE BOTTLE?
When the bottle is full, drink it. When it's empty, take out another one. What's this spinning business?
GONE SWIMMING IN A WHITE T-SHIRT?
I am not a big fan of swimming in street clothes. Especially if you'll have to wear them for the rest of the day.
BEEN TO A NUDE BEACH?
Have you ever seen a dressed beach?
BEEN CHEATED ON?
Some kids can't play a game without cheating. Ah, the question asked about a particular kind of cheating? The answer is still the same.
BEEN WALKED IN ON WHILE YOU WERE DRESSING?
Somebody walking on you, while you are trying to get dressed? I am getting a very weird mental picture.
BOUGHT SOMETHING WAY TOO EXPENSIVE?
If it was too expensive, why would I buy it?
PLAYED STRIP ANYTHING?
"Strip Anything" doesn't sound like a very fun game.
PUNCHED YOUR PARENT?
No.
GONE TO SLEEP NAKED?
Neither have I gone to sleep wearing a suit.
RAN AWAY FROM HOME?
No.
WORE YOUR PAJAMAS IN PUBLIC?
Neither have I walked around naked.
DANCED IN YOUR UNDERWEAR IN FRONT OF SOMEONE?
Dancing requres musical ability.
MADE UP A FAKE IDENTITY WHEN YOU MET SOMEONE?
How do you know this one is real? ;)
BEEN IN LOVE?
While I am trying to come up with something funny, I'll just say "yes".
GOTTEN A HICKEY?
No, I don't play hockey. (Never learned to skate well enough.)
SLEPT IN A BED WITH A MEMBER OF THE SAME SEX /OPPOSITE SEX?
I've never met a person who was a member of the same and opposite sex simultaneously.
HATED THE WAY YOU LOOK?
I think that guy in the mirror is looking at me wrong.
CRIED YOURSELF TO SLEEP?
Carried myself to sleep... that's a nice metaphor. Ah, the question asked about crying, rather than carrying? In that case the answer is "no".
DONE SOMETHING YOU TOLD YOURSELF YOU WOULDN'T DO?
You mean besides posting here? :P
SUNG IN THE SHOWER?
Why would I do that?
BEEN TOO SCARED TO WATCH A SCARY MOVIE ALONE?
If the movie is sufficiently scary, you never watch it alone, because of those things that are coming out or the screen. They are coming to get you! Run!!!
LAUGHED SO HARD THAT YOU CRIED?
I generally make up my mind on whether I intend to laugh or to cry before starting the activity.
FORGOTTEN SOMEONE'S NAME?
Who are all these people posting in these thread?
CRIED OVER SOMEONE?
"Cry over somebody"? You mean like in fairy tales, where princess' tears bring the prince back to life?
SKIPPED SCHOOL?
I've skipped neither school nor university, but I did skip some classes when attending the later.
GOTTEN EXPELLED FROM SCHOOL?
No.
DONE DRUGS?
If I had an illegal drug lab in my basement, would I really tell about it here?
GOTTEN A TICKET?
I've gotten plenty of tickets: bus tickets, concert tickets, museum tickets, etc.
GOTTEN IN A CAR ACCIDENT?
Some idiots think that 2 meters is a safe following distance when driving over 70mph. These idiots usually drive vans or SUVs.
SCREAMED IN A LIBRARY?
That book is moving! It's alive! Aaaaaaa
ASKED SOMEONE OUT?
Out of where?
BEEN ON A PLANE?
While Earth might be round, its surface can be approximated by a plane in any given location.
BEEN OUT OF THE COUNTRY?
Not only that, but I've also been into the country.
PASSED OUT?
I pass out of this building every evening.
BEEN IN THE HOSPITAL?
Which hospital do you mean by "THE HOSPITAL"?
HAD SURGERY?
Toncils, wisdom teeth, eyes ... Ok, maybe not eyes. However, human body does seem to have a large amount of unnecessary organs that cause nothing but trouble.
PLAYED A TERRIBLE PRANK ON SOMEONE?
You mean besides taking this quiz? :P
MOCKED SOMEONE?
You mean besides everybody who took this questionaire seriously? :P
FAILED A CLASS ON PURPOSE?
I've heard of a math professor at Berkeley who had failed his entire class a couple times, but I have neither desire nor ability to repeat that heroic feat.
CRIED IN PUBLIC?
Since this question has a preposition "in", there must be some fun way to twist it, but I haven't figured one out yet.
BEEN HIT BY A PARENT?
Why such obsession with violent confrontations with parents?
ATE DOG/CAT FOOD?
According to some religions, I could have been a dog or a cat in a past life. Unfortunately I have no memories of anything that happened before my birth.
WALKED INTO A WALL AND/OR DOOR?
In all Exile/Avernum games before A4 this was the main way of finding secret passages.
SEEN A GHOST?
Who are you? Why are you looking so pale? Why are you walking through furnuture? Don't come any closer! No! Aaaaaa!!!

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Be careful with a word, as you would with a sword,
For it too has the power to kill.
However well placed word, unlike a well placed sword,
Can also have the power to heal.
Posts: 2649 | Registered: Wednesday, October 3 2001 07:00
SubTerra - 8.76 (9.5/7.8) in General
Zeviz
Nuke and Pave
Member # 24
 written Wednesday, June 28 2006 11:16 Profile Homepage #14
It's a very fun game if you like puzzles. And now it's free.
9

[ Wednesday, June 28, 2006 11:17: Message edited by: Zeviz ]

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Be careful with a word, as you would with a sword,
For it too has the power to kill.
However well placed word, unlike a well placed sword,
Can also have the power to heal.
Posts: 2649 | Registered: Wednesday, October 3 2001 07:00
Spiderweb chat happening now! AIM room spidweb. IM Tyranicus86 for an invite! in General
Zeviz
Nuke and Pave
Member # 24
 written Wednesday, June 28 2006 10:24 Profile Homepage #21
Will the equilateral parallelograms among us be able to see the transcript of this chat?

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Be careful with a word, as you would with a sword,
For it too has the power to kill.
However well placed word, unlike a well placed sword,
Can also have the power to heal.
Posts: 2649 | Registered: Wednesday, October 3 2001 07:00
Your favorite video game company in General
Zeviz
Nuke and Pave
Member # 24
 written Wednesday, June 28 2006 10:17 Profile Homepage #33
I marked "Other", meaning "who needs a console when you have a computer?" Why would anybody buy those new overpriced consoles that cost as much as a [cheap] PC?

For computer games, my favorite developers currently are Firaxis for Civilization series (particularly Civ4), and Stardock (Galactic Civilization 2). I like Stardock for their attitude as much as the game itself: Developers active on both company and fan forums, patches that improve interface and game mechanics, in addition to bug fixes, etc. I wish all small (and large) developers had that kind of attitude.

[ Wednesday, June 28, 2006 10:20: Message edited by: Zeviz ]

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Be careful with a word, as you would with a sword,
For it too has the power to kill.
However well placed word, unlike a well placed sword,
Can also have the power to heal.
Posts: 2649 | Registered: Wednesday, October 3 2001 07:00
The Final Spire, RELEASED! in Blades of Exile
Zeviz
Nuke and Pave
Member # 24
 written Wednesday, June 28 2006 09:30 Profile Homepage #2
Congratulations with getting it done. :) The last version that I saw looked pretty good already.

Sorry about not testing the 3rd version.

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Be careful with a word, as you would with a sword,
For it too has the power to kill.
However well placed word, unlike a well placed sword,
Can also have the power to heal.
Posts: 2649 | Registered: Wednesday, October 3 2001 07:00
Secret passages in Gf2 ??? in Geneforge Series
Zeviz
Nuke and Pave
Member # 24
 written Wednesday, June 28 2006 08:33 Profile Homepage #2
There are some passages that are very hard to see. (Very narrow passages that are easier to spot on the mini-map than on game map, because of the way trees are positioned.) You might need sertain level of Luck skill to "find" them. However, I don't think there are any secret passages of the Avernum "bump into the wall" kind.

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Be careful with a word, as you would with a sword,
For it too has the power to kill.
However well placed word, unlike a well placed sword,
Can also have the power to heal.
Posts: 2649 | Registered: Wednesday, October 3 2001 07:00
G4 Screen Resolution in Geneforge Series
Zeviz
Nuke and Pave
Member # 24
 written Wednesday, June 28 2006 08:29 Profile Homepage #8
Until recently I would have said "yes", but I now have a new monitor. However, many people who are still using old computers probably prefer 800x600. (Even if computer itself isn't very old, 6 year old monitors might be too small for high resolutions.)

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Be careful with a word, as you would with a sword,
For it too has the power to kill.
However well placed word, unlike a well placed sword,
Can also have the power to heal.
Posts: 2649 | Registered: Wednesday, October 3 2001 07:00
Battle Gammas in Geneforge Series
Zeviz
Nuke and Pave
Member # 24
 written Wednesday, June 28 2006 08:23 Profile Homepage #6
quote:
Originally written by Shard of Fire:

...
That could be the creature update for that game—give each creation a third level, such as fyora to cryoa to charged fyora.
...
Tremble in fear before the unrivaled might of Zyoar! :)

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Be careful with a word, as you would with a sword,
For it too has the power to kill.
However well placed word, unlike a well placed sword,
Can also have the power to heal.
Posts: 2649 | Registered: Wednesday, October 3 2001 07:00
Flaming my questions. in General
Zeviz
Nuke and Pave
Member # 24
 written Friday, June 23 2006 14:47 Profile Homepage #21
quote:
Originally written by Garrison:

Maybe there should just be an option for members to filter out other members' posts. My imagination has already run amuck and has hypothesized a beautiful system for this. I have another idea, but I am not sure how to express it concisely and clearly right now so maybe I will edit it in later if the topic has actually been revived.
There already is such a system. It's called Page Down key. :P It is also effective at filtering out exessively long signatures, exessively verbose posts, and, if you aren't careful, entire threads, forums, and web pages.

[ Friday, June 23, 2006 15:26: Message edited by: Zeviz ]

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Be careful with a word, as you would with a sword,
For it too has the power to kill.
However well placed word, unlike a well placed sword,
Can also have the power to heal.
Posts: 2649 | Registered: Wednesday, October 3 2001 07:00
Where is Icshi? in Richard White Games
Zeviz
Nuke and Pave
Member # 24
 written Friday, June 23 2006 14:28 Profile Homepage #13
quote:
Originally written by Ghost of Starman:

What the----
An Exhaustive Semi-Chronological Short History of the White Cult
Maybe it should be linked in the forum header to explain what the forum is used for now. :)

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Be careful with a word, as you would with a sword,
For it too has the power to kill.
However well placed word, unlike a well placed sword,
Can also have the power to heal.
Posts: 2649 | Registered: Wednesday, October 3 2001 07:00
Wow (G4) in Geneforge 4: Rebellion
Zeviz
Nuke and Pave
Member # 24
 written Friday, June 23 2006 09:12 Profile Homepage #19
quote:
Originally written by Bobby Pendragon:

The message box tells you leveled to level 8 in Shot 1.
If you are talking about "Debug: Tyrol alert level up to 8", that has nothing to do with your character level. It's a debugging message that probably has something to do with creature scripts or towns, depending on whether "Tyrol" is an NPC or an area name.

quote:
Originally written by Spidweb:

... I have also revamped the secondary creations types to hopefully make them more interesting. For example, some creations will be unstable. They're much stronger, but they rapidly decay after they are created.

I'm working on the 31st area today, btw. It's coming along.

- Jeff Vogel
Unstable creations sound like a fun new mechanic. Does "working on 31st area" mean that the game is more than 1/3 done?

[ Friday, June 23, 2006 09:13: Message edited by: Zeviz ]

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Be careful with a word, as you would with a sword,
For it too has the power to kill.
However well placed word, unlike a well placed sword,
Can also have the power to heal.
Posts: 2649 | Registered: Wednesday, October 3 2001 07:00
Parry in Geneforge Series
Zeviz
Nuke and Pave
Member # 24
 written Friday, June 23 2006 08:57 Profile Homepage #8
quote:
Originally written by Ghost of Starman:

wait!

is the 18 the kind of 18 you get at 18 (9.. 10.. 11.. 12..) or the kind you get at 29? (9.. 10.. 10.. 11..) cuz for the second kind it's the maxmimum which would make more SENSE
I am not sure how you are counting, but 18 in this case really means 18. You get extra 5% chance per level for each kind of parry you can get, until it gets to 50%. Riposte gets to 50% at level 18. After that, there are no new parry types, so no reason to raise the skill beyond 18. Which is a good thing, because parry 18 makes you almost invulnerable already (partial damage is usually blocked by armor, which is pretty heavy by that point, so you only take damage on 1 out of 8 melle attacks, while reflecting damage 50% of the time).

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Be careful with a word, as you would with a sword,
For it too has the power to kill.
However well placed word, unlike a well placed sword,
Can also have the power to heal.
Posts: 2649 | Registered: Wednesday, October 3 2001 07:00
Thoughts of mine in The Exile Trilogy
Zeviz
Nuke and Pave
Member # 24
 written Wednesday, June 21 2006 16:22 Profile Homepage #14
quote:
Originally written by Kelandon:

quote:
Originally written by megamad:

I don't mean to say they were bad, but it was not the same feeling like playing any of the Exile games (I have played At the Gallows as well).
I have had this feeling, too, and I've been trying for the past two years to pin down exactly why. If anyone can articulate it, I'd be grateful.
...
I think the reason is that every author has a different style, so different authors have more appeal to different readers/players. There is a very wide variety in the content of BoE scenarios, despite the similarity in medium, which causes them to have a different feel. (The importance of story v. combat v. environment, the balance and format of combat, the type of story, etc.) I personally liked some BoE scenarios more than I liked Jeff's games, and my opinions about Jeff's games themselves also varly widely.

[ Wednesday, June 21, 2006 16:24: Message edited by: Zeviz ]

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Be careful with a word, as you would with a sword,
For it too has the power to kill.
However well placed word, unlike a well placed sword,
Can also have the power to heal.
Posts: 2649 | Registered: Wednesday, October 3 2001 07:00
Civil Unions disallowed in ACT in General
Zeviz
Nuke and Pave
Member # 24
 written Wednesday, June 21 2006 15:55 Profile Homepage #79
Since I am posting in this thread, I guess I should state my own opinion on the issue itself:

The whole issue is just a tool used by conservative and liberal extrimists to rally their bases. A very effective way to get your supporters to the polls is "OMG we are turning into Sodom!!!" / "OMG they are going to stone all homosexuals!!!"

Marriage is a very charged word, because it has always been a religious ceremony, so the best compromise is to just make a separate legal status for all people living in the same household. (For example, I find it pretty rediculous that health insurance can be extended to girlfriends, but not to parents.) The government is in the business of regulating financial matters, not religious matters, so it should be defining the term "domestic partnership", rather than "marriage".

EDIT: As for religious definition of marriage, whether that definition includes homosexuality depends largely on how closely the movement follows the Bible. The prohibition against homosexual relations is listed in the same place as prohibition against incest, definition of dietary laws, and other ceremonial, and mundane regulations. So the movements that don't really care about laws of Deutoronomy have much fewer problems with recognizing gay marriage than movements that derive their rules from the Torah. (It's hard to talk your way around a direct prohibition.)

[ Wednesday, June 21, 2006 16:05: Message edited by: Zeviz ]

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Be careful with a word, as you would with a sword,
For it too has the power to kill.
However well placed word, unlike a well placed sword,
Can also have the power to heal.
Posts: 2649 | Registered: Wednesday, October 3 2001 07:00
Civil Unions disallowed in ACT in General
Zeviz
Nuke and Pave
Member # 24
 written Wednesday, June 21 2006 15:22 Profile Homepage #73
quote:
Originally written by Drew:

It's just my opinion, Ash, and you're free to contest it. Are you offended? Can you prove that your opposition to gay marriage is truly motivated by anything else?

It's all well and good that you dislike the notion, but why are you so concerned with what other people choose to do with their lives? All that only some of this relatively small portion of the population want is the right to form lasting, monogamous relationships with the person they love, and be able to recognize that person as a spouse for legal purposes such as rights to healthcare and estate. What possible basis do you have for denying these people such rights that you as a hetero enjoy? Because this denial essentially makes them second-class citizens, and religious motivation or no, it really seems to me to come from a place of mean-spiritedness.

If the law gives people the right to choose not to believe in the Bible, why should the Bible be allowed nevertheless to oppress their rights?
Replace "gay marriage" with "polygamy" in the above post and the reasoning still holds. However, for some reason I don't see opponents of polygamy being called "hate-filled fanatics".

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Be careful with a word, as you would with a sword,
For it too has the power to kill.
However well placed word, unlike a well placed sword,
Can also have the power to heal.
Posts: 2649 | Registered: Wednesday, October 3 2001 07:00
Spells in Geneforge Series
Zeviz
Nuke and Pave
Member # 24
 written Wednesday, June 21 2006 11:29 Profile Homepage #7
Firebolt is the only spell my Shaper, who ignores battle magic, can cast for large part of the game. It's usually ineffective in his unexperienced hands, but sometimes better than doing nothing while waiting for creations to get the job done.

[ Wednesday, June 21, 2006 11:30: Message edited by: Zeviz ]

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Be careful with a word, as you would with a sword,
For it too has the power to kill.
However well placed word, unlike a well placed sword,
Can also have the power to heal.
Posts: 2649 | Registered: Wednesday, October 3 2001 07:00

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