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A Pol. in Geneforge 4: Rebellion
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Safey:
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they are trying to wipe out the shapers and all those loyal to them.

So the Allies and the Allied resistance were guilty of genocide when they attempted to wipe out the Nazis?

The Drakons aren't killing Shapers for merely existing. They are killing Shapers because the Shapers want to genocide their race.

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A little confused in Nethergate
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Constructive criticism is one thing, and stubborn negativity is another. Personal attacks, however, are against the code of conduct. Consider yourself warned.

I never 'personally attacked' anyone. So do me a big favour, and quit your posturing.

[ Sunday, August 19, 2007 03:19: Message edited by: Suspicious Vlish ]

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A Pol. in Geneforge 4: Rebellion
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It is far less appropriate to the Rebellion than the Shapers. I have yet to see the Rebellion attempt to genocide an entire race of sapient beings.

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A Pol. in Geneforge 4: Rebellion
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Iffy:
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Maybe the administrators forgot about him.

Let's hope it stays that way.

And Retlew, I make comparisons between the Shapers and the Nazis, because those comparisons are appropriate.

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Why would I spend money on something which pretty much is identical to the original?

I know that there may be some small differences, but not enough to justify me forking out my hard earned cash. Exile 1 to Avernum 1 was a huge jump in 'quality', Nethergate to Nethergate: Resurrection was not.

To be honest, I'm starting to get tired of Jeff's lack of innovation.

*le gasp* Yes, I dare to say that he lacks in innovation. He...

-'Remakes' the Exile series to produce the Avernum series.

- Sucks the Geneforge world dry (attempting to make them interesting with 'Drakons', ug. Worst plot device ever.)

- Adds another game to the already overdone Avernum series. Trust me, the open ending at the of Exile III was enough.

- Is placing Solberg in the FIFTH Avernum game (why won't that old codger die already??! :( ).

- And now has made some small changes to the original Nethergate. Wow.

It reminds me of what Homer says at the start of the Simpsons movie. "Hah, you guys are suckers! You're paying for something that you could watch for free on TV!".

That's how I feel about the veterans who pay for Nethergate: Resurrection, who have the original game. They got sucked in. Go play the original, you imbeciles.

I wasn't going to even touch the Shareware version of Avernum 5, but now I've made up my mind not to purchase any of his games, until he actually comes up with something *new*.

[ Saturday, August 18, 2007 16:47: Message edited by: Suspicious Vlish ]

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'Remake' sort of implies that things have been remade...

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Well, I downloaded Nethergate: Resurrection (?), and I'm a little confused. Despite the title stating that it is Nethergate: Resurrection, the game seems to be near identical to the original Nethergate (from what I remember). Did I download the wrong thing by accident?

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A Pol. in Geneforge 4: Rebellion
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What law?

You mean Godwin's?

And if so, so what?

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A Pol. in Geneforge 4: Rebellion
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I question that analogy, Vlish. The Shapers are a civilization.

No they aren't. That's the equivalent of claiming the aristocrats of medieval France were a civilization. Shapers are merely a strata of said society. Normal humans and creations make up the majority (from what we have seen).

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They have an ideology. National Socialism is an ideology

Huh?

Nazis had an ideology. Shapers have an ideology. The mere act of being a Shaper means you must adopt the ideology of Shaper supremacy. If the Shapers find out that they you sympathize with Creations, they drop you faster than a hot potato.

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The Awakened, however, do not seek to coexist with the Shapers' racist ideology, they seek to coexist with the Shapers by changing their ideology (and they do have Shaper sympathizers, so this could work).

Which is impossible. Unless the Shapers are pushed to the brink of extinction, and have no choice but to surrender. That's exactly what the Takers are aiming for, and good luck to them.

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To fix the analogy, Jews and Germans can coexist when the Germans are not Nazis.

Your analogy is crap.

Humans and creations might be able coexist, when humans are not Shapers.

The mere act of being a part of Shaper society requires you to adopt certain beliefs, which are directly contradictory to creation and human autonomy.

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A Pol. in Geneforge 4: Rebellion
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Leftist:

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I support the Awakened. Also, I protest Suspicious Vlish. Serviles aren't animals. They're sentient, intelligent beings.

You missed the point. I'm not trying to compare animals to serviles. What I am doing is pointing out that Awakened philosophy contains certain beliefs that are contradictory, much like the individual who is a humanitarian, but also wants to promote animal rights.

The Awakened wish for coexistence with the Shapers. They also believe that they should have the right to exist as independent autonomous beings.
These two ideologies are inherently contradictory. Creations can't coexist as autonomous beings while Shapers still holding significant power. Such a dream is the equivalent of Jews believing that they can remain autonomous while coexisting with the Nazis. Pure absurdity.

This is why the Taker ideology (and methodology) is so much more tenable.

[ Wednesday, August 15, 2007 00:26: Message edited by: Suspicious Vlish ]

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A Pol. in Geneforge 4: Rebellion
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Anyone who votes for the Awakened is akin to an animal rights activist who is also a humanitarian.

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G5 wishlist. in Geneforge 4: Rebellion
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Corrupted One:

My plot was tongue in cheek. As Thuryl pointed out, it's the plot from Planescape: Torment. I suggest you drop everything you are doing and hire the game out, and give it a whirl. It's one of the best RPG's in existence.

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Also, in what way is KoToR similiar to my idea? Do you start out as a Sith lord ( minus the memories and force powers) and join the Jedi?

Pretty much.

I was going to explain the plot, but I've decided not to. Spoilers and all. One day you might want to play the game.

[ Wednesday, August 01, 2007 22:44: Message edited by: Suspicious Vlish ]

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G5 wishlist. in Geneforge 4: Rebellion
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I have a more original idea.

You wake up on a Shaping platform, covered in scars, and suffering almost complete memory loss. A bobbing, talking Fyora approaches you, calls you 'Chief', and assists you in escaping the Shaping Chambers administrated by the 'Shapermen'.

You then discover that you can't die, and hence embark on a quest to recover your lost memories, and your mortality.

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Item list for Exile: Escape from the Pit in The Exile Trilogy
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You can find the Alien Blade in Exile 1...

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G5 wishlist. in Geneforge 4: Rebellion
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Romance?!

You've got to be kidding me?! Romance was bad enough in BGII, and you want to incorporate it into a game like Geneforge? I think I'm about to have an aneurism.

Personally, I'd like to see the Creations tweaked. I'm sick of being given the 'choice' of Shaping a useless pyroroamer. As I suggested in another thread, Jeff should tweak the pyroroamer so that it has a multi-target fire breath attack.

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Harry Potter *WITH SPOILERS* in General
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Acd:
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First he's against the trip to the Lovegoods because it distracts from the Horcruxes, next he's neglecting the primary mission because he's obsessed with the Hallows.
Maybe Harry has ADHD?!

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Harry Potter *WITH SPOILERS* in General
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Diki:
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Dikiyoba didn't like the epilogue and wishes that it was left to the imagination instead.

Yeah. All that the epilogue does is reinforce that Rowling has a penchant for orphans, and B grade Mills and Boons relationships.

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Harry Potter *WITH SPOILERS* in General
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Synergy:
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. He's too flawed a hero, and despite his endless run of incredible luck, rather than skill, he really doesn't fit the bill for a hero too well.

That's what I couldn't stand about the series.

I have no problem with Harry being flawed. But what really pissed me off was that Harry usually accomplished something due to a mixture of luck and the intervention of his buddies. Oh, and the fact that he 'happened' to be born with supreme Wizarding skills, despite the fact that he puts in little effort. Sort of reminds me of Anakin Skywalker.

Harry himself is pretty lame.

"Oh, Potion Making is too hard, so I'll cheat."

"Oh, learning mind defense techniques is too hard, so I'll piss off."

Ever Book after Number 3 sucked big time.

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Abilities List in Geneforge 4: Rebellion
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Rotgroth, from my VERY limited knowledge about script, I think that you script in 'Firebolt', and then increase the 'Hit target' from 1 to 3 or 4.

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Harry Potter *WITH SPOILERS* in General
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Spidweb:
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I think that Rowling should have just let the other shoe drop and called the book Harry Potter and the Painfully Technical Argument About Wand Ownership.

That was how you wanted the final confrontation between Harry and Voldemort to go down? Really? Well, you're the billionaire.

- Jeff Vogel

Agreed. I find the plot from Avernum 4 easier to swallow than Rowling's tripe, and that's saying something.

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I actually think that pyroroamer should have some sort of multi-target firebreath attack. Sort of like a dumbed down version of Essence Orbs which does fire damage.

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delicious vlish in Geneforge 4: Rebellion
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From what I understand, the 'no personal attacks' rule only protects members of this forum.

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delicious vlish in Geneforge 4: Rebellion
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"It was in the thread "Emperor Tullegolar" which was asking why he got banned."

I was wondering why the IQ of the fora had jumped by 20 points. What happened? Did the moderators outlaw extreme inanity and obtuseness?

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Vlish under-rated in Geneforge 4: Rebellion
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Dikiyobi,

I usually absorb my creations before receiving any quest EXP points. Although a fair proportion of the EXP does come from combat, which is gobbled up by my creations.

For me, retaining my creations never seems to be feasible. For example, let's say I purchase two points in fyora, and create a shiny new cryoa. I retain that creation, and allow it to level up.

Along the way, I'm going to discover a create fyora canister. I'm also inevitably going to sink some points into fire shaping. If not, I'm going to get equipment that will boost my fire shaping anyway.

By the time I've levelled up my cryoa, I can usually create a shiny new cryoa that is exactly the same level, or higher! Or they will be overshadowed by a creation from a higher tier.

So what exactly was the point of spending my hard earned EXP on a redundant creation? Those XP points are better off in my pocket, than in the pocket of an absorbed creation.

Sure, you could keep an artila around for the entire game. But it's hardly worth the EXP or hassle, IMHO.

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Vlish under-rated in Geneforge 4: Rebellion
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Slar:
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Being better than others is not the same thing as being good.

I disagree. 'Goodness' is often relative. Whether a creation is good is determined by how it compares with enemy creations, and whether there is anything more efficient in the PC's arsenal.

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Vlish are good, but in G4, they are no longer spectacular and amazing.

I agree that they aren't 'spectacular and amazing', but they solid creations. You get your essences worth. A high starting level, a good chance to hit, a strong melee, fair HP, the curse effects (perhaps the second most useful ancillary in the game) and a wealth of resistances.

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They are probably the best option through chapter 2 IFF you are running disposable creations. If you build your creation levels, a vlish might be useful but cryoa will be better and artila nearly as good but cheaper.

I'd disagree with you on that one. Added to which, creations take a bite from your EXP. Why sacrifice the EXP, when you can produce higher tier creations of similar essence cost that can perform just as well?

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As for this 'mysterious intrinsic dodging' I've heard that before and I don't buy it.

I ran a quick trial, and apparently Vlish have the same chance to dodge as other creations when their DEX is equal. So I've come to the conclusion that as newly created Vlish have a higher starting level than cryoa/roamer/clawbug, they have higher DEX, and hence a higher chance to dodge. *slaps forehead*

That would probably explain why several people reported that Vlishies seemingly intrinsic ability to dodge.

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