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Originally posted by Zephyr Tempest, The Mindwarper:
Oh, I have that, but it won't let me register.
Probably because I'm not 13, I'm 11.

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Originally posted by [Sarachim]:
The biggest problem with leaving everything to private enterprise is something economists call "public goods" (if memory serves). These are things like national defense, urban roadways, sanitation, and so forth that you can't exclude people from benefiting from, whether they pay for them or not. Without a government of some sort to force people to support these goods (or at least recruit enough voluntary support to get them done), these will go unprovided, becuase nobody will pay for them of their own free will.

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Originally posted by Lone Flame:
Come to think of it, if there were no taxes, none of use would need to use roads. Also I wouldn't be force to go through the oh so idiotic public education system.

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Of course we're allowed to choose what to give up; why do you think we have voting? And if you mean that everyone should only be allowed to decide the law for their own self, than that's anarchy. Which I've already said is impossible, and it's stupid, anyway.

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Originally posted by iDavid:
Whoawhoawhoa. I only read a couple posts, but I don't think the subject should be changed that quickly. Maybe it didn't. If not, forget this first part.

Now, back to pot (just say pot, it's the same thing but less of a mouthful [figuratively, not literally]). Why are you against legalization, Moc, if you know that it would screw high schools up so bad?

Well, mainly as a reply to OtM, obviously people who go into school stoned are gonna get kicked out - same as if someone went to school drunk. Legalising cannabis doesn't mean that you can do whatever you like with it whenever you like (eg. driving laws as well)

The only reason I can think of is that you think we should be able to choose on our own whether we want to smoke it or not, and have no interferance. Well, if that's what you think, I think that's crap. If it's not what you think, forget this part too. But if it is, then I think you are wrong because sometimes, the government knows what is good for you when you do not, and why have a government if they don't do what's good for us?

Um, to collect taxes, enforce laws that stop people harming others and protect liberties. Either that or just have anarchism (which isn't necessarily a bad thing)

Letting us smoke pot is not good for us.

Says who?

Now, I know this could be used against me and might make you people think I like dictatorships, but that is not the case. All I'm saying is, sometimes we have to give up our liberties for our own sake.

I think we should be allowed to choose when we give up our liberties, otherwise it is, as you say, a dictatorship.

It's like drug rehab (bad analogy, if Scorp is still here, but I'll use it anyway); you tell people to keep you away from something, no matter what they have to do, and they do just that. You may be angry during the process, but it's good for you anyway, and you will be glad afterwards.

Yes, maybe if people asked the government to keep pot away from them, but their not. It's more like forced drug rehab

[qb I have not met a single old or middle aged person who smoked pot when they were young, and now wants it legalized.[/qb]

See comments by those above. I will ask Thuryl's question again, to keep it fresh : How many middle aged people have you met who smoked pot when they were younger and don't wqant it legalised? or even: How many middle aged people have you met who smoked pot when they were younger?

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