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written Tuesday, April 10 2007 20:37
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Anyway, how can you expect expansion without any violence? How many of of the empires/nations/states have been established in the history of the world with no violence? You are now looking to the past to make the Shapers evil? Well look to your own country's past and look how many of thousands/millions of gallons of blood have been spilled. All of your nations are bathing in blood. P.S. I remember that some people here are Australian, but even though I don't know too much about that history I know enough to know it is not innocent. I have read/heard enough accounts of the abuse of Australian natives (even some modern!) to know that its hands aren't clean; so don't give me a something about how that is America's evil demons. -------------------- "After I'm dead I'd rather have people ask why I have no monument than why I have one." - Cato the Elder (234-149 BC) "The mind, if it exists, is nothing but an unfortunate after effect of the brain process." -Kripke "One should die proudly when it is no longer possible to live proudly." -Friedich Nietzche Posts: 333 | Registered: Saturday, May 20 2006 07:00 |
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written Tuesday, April 10 2007 20:25
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I really don't get where you get that "many people jump sides quickly to the Rebellion" deal. As far as I know, the majority of the intellegent beings are still on the Shaper side. Just because they don't actively fight for the Shapers doesn't mean anything. The Rebellion is a minority with passion. I would argue how weak many of the human convictions are against the Shapers since more were willing to switch over to the Shapers once they saw the Rebels were losing. -------------------- "After I'm dead I'd rather have people ask why I have no monument than why I have one." - Cato the Elder (234-149 BC) "The mind, if it exists, is nothing but an unfortunate after effect of the brain process." -Kripke "One should die proudly when it is no longer possible to live proudly." -Friedich Nietzche Posts: 333 | Registered: Saturday, May 20 2006 07:00 |
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written Tuesday, April 10 2007 07:10
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quote:Of course you know nothing of that ancient culture. Just because someone thinks they have moral superiority doesn't mean they won't state things "dipomatically". Also, if this people's religion abhored what the original Shapers were doing, they could have felt that them attacking was a "fight back" against the blasphemy, or a "fight back" because we warned them. I'm not saying that the Shapers didn't start the fight, I'm just saying that you are making assumptions based off of shaky inferences and that you shouldn't use them in a "manner-of-fact" way. -------------------- "After I'm dead I'd rather have people ask why I have no monument than why I have one." - Cato the Elder (234-149 BC) "The mind, if it exists, is nothing but an unfortunate after effect of the brain process." -Kripke "One should die proudly when it is no longer possible to live proudly." -Friedich Nietzche Posts: 333 | Registered: Saturday, May 20 2006 07:00 |
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written Tuesday, April 10 2007 06:51
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Dikiyoba, how can you condemn someone for pointing out that the next Rebellion was never pointed out in size, and then go on asuming that it is big? Also, the rebels didn't allow the Drakons to form the Unbound. They didn't know about the Unbound project. Even when you reveal it, only a few of the human leaders know of it at that point and they are the fanatically invested in the Rebellion. You've got Litlia who "relearned" emotions (I got the feeling it was basically learning how to react to certain things) and Greta who is possibly one of the most hypocrytical characters of the game. Even if I had origanally had Rebel intent at the begining of the game, a person holding to true Rebellion ideology would not allow the Unbound to be made. Greta (at Southforge): text1 = "_Do not be a fanatic. Don't close your eyes. Don't make up your mind before you see both sides of an issue. And don't think there can be only one route to any goal._"; text2 = "_Someday, the rebellion may take the wrong course. And then we will count on the fresh and young, like you, to correct us. That is all. Now, back to your mission._"; -------------------- "After I'm dead I'd rather have people ask why I have no monument than why I have one." - Cato the Elder (234-149 BC) "The mind, if it exists, is nothing but an unfortunate after effect of the brain process." -Kripke "One should die proudly when it is no longer possible to live proudly." -Friedich Nietzche Posts: 333 | Registered: Saturday, May 20 2006 07:00 |
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written Monday, April 9 2007 13:26
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I wonder if Salmon actually reads posts or if he does, if he comprehends them. -------------------- "After I'm dead I'd rather have people ask why I have no monument than why I have one." - Cato the Elder (234-149 BC) "The mind, if it exists, is nothing but an unfortunate after effect of the brain process." -Kripke "One should die proudly when it is no longer possible to live proudly." -Friedich Nietzche Posts: 333 | Registered: Saturday, May 20 2006 07:00 |
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written Monday, April 9 2007 09:37
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But it does imply centuries of relatively peaceful rule. You can't expect for there to be peace for eternity in any large government. Most governments in our world have had a rebellion in some form or another in the last century (yes that includes the US). -------------------- "After I'm dead I'd rather have people ask why I have no monument than why I have one." - Cato the Elder (234-149 BC) "The mind, if it exists, is nothing but an unfortunate after effect of the brain process." -Kripke "One should die proudly when it is no longer possible to live proudly." -Friedich Nietzche Posts: 333 | Registered: Saturday, May 20 2006 07:00 |
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written Sunday, April 8 2007 22:36
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quote:Reminds me of another situation.... Can anyone else guess what the more modern version of this would be? -------------------- "After I'm dead I'd rather have people ask why I have no monument than why I have one." - Cato the Elder (234-149 BC) "The mind, if it exists, is nothing but an unfortunate after effect of the brain process." -Kripke "One should die proudly when it is no longer possible to live proudly." -Friedich Nietzche Posts: 333 | Registered: Saturday, May 20 2006 07:00 |
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written Sunday, April 8 2007 21:39
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This is the arguemen that we proShapers (or at least not pro-Rebels) make, but they never agree. This topic has become the same as so many others that I sometimes wonder why new topics are even formed. They will all end up like this or similar. -------------------- "After I'm dead I'd rather have people ask why I have no monument than why I have one." - Cato the Elder (234-149 BC) "The mind, if it exists, is nothing but an unfortunate after effect of the brain process." -Kripke "One should die proudly when it is no longer possible to live proudly." -Friedich Nietzche Posts: 333 | Registered: Saturday, May 20 2006 07:00 |
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written Sunday, April 8 2007 19:47
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So why is it that people always ignore the many strong points and jump on the one weak and less significant point? I notice that this almost always happens when those same people have no strong points of their own . It is a tell-tale sign of weakness. The greatest bullies are those who are weak. -------------------- "After I'm dead I'd rather have people ask why I have no monument than why I have one." - Cato the Elder (234-149 BC) "The mind, if it exists, is nothing but an unfortunate after effect of the brain process." -Kripke "One should die proudly when it is no longer possible to live proudly." -Friedich Nietzche Posts: 333 | Registered: Saturday, May 20 2006 07:00 |
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written Sunday, April 8 2007 19:29
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Whoever made the argument including the Eastern and Western Roman Empires got it all wrong. By the time they were considered so, they had been legally split by the previous emperor and were, therefore, actually seperate states with two seperate emperors. -------------------- "After I'm dead I'd rather have people ask why I have no monument than why I have one." - Cato the Elder (234-149 BC) "The mind, if it exists, is nothing but an unfortunate after effect of the brain process." -Kripke "One should die proudly when it is no longer possible to live proudly." -Friedich Nietzche Posts: 333 | Registered: Saturday, May 20 2006 07:00 |
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written Saturday, April 7 2007 10:46
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Yes, I agree with Salmon! I would much rather have giant lizards rule over me in a dictorial fashion. I love those cuddly green peices of $#!% that tell me that they know whats best for all as they release their toxic new buddies into my farmland. I especially love the new viruses being created by the altered humans without any true knowledge of shaping. While we're at it why not just stuff me in a work camp with a sign saying "Work will set you free".? All this is much better than my middle class life that I am currently living. It will be much better than the stability I so hate currently. I will especially be glad to be free from having to occasionally keep my mouth shut in the rare instance that I actually meet a Shaper. I'd rather have one of my reptilian overlords blast me for not humping their leg as they walk by. [ Saturday, April 07, 2007 10:47: Message edited by: Retlaw May ] -------------------- "After I'm dead I'd rather have people ask why I have no monument than why I have one." - Cato the Elder (234-149 BC) "The mind, if it exists, is nothing but an unfortunate after effect of the brain process." -Kripke "One should die proudly when it is no longer possible to live proudly." -Friedich Nietzche Posts: 333 | Registered: Saturday, May 20 2006 07:00 |
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written Saturday, April 7 2007 10:37
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When the Shapers win the Rebellion, all the Rebellion did was make the Shapers move backwards to the way that the original goal of the Rebellion. Waylander, a rape victim isn't responsible for their black eye, but they are responsible if they go out and rape innocent people as a reaction. The Unbound project rapes innocent people. And I may have forgotten but I don't remember Learned Pinner in G3 or G4 (I'm not sure), but if she wasn't, how can you be so sure she went to help the Rebellion? Oh and arrogance isn't a crime, but the actions that the Drakons commit atrocities because of it are. And if [i] the Rebellion [/i] truly had the well being of the people in mind, they wouldn't commit so many attrocities. -------------------- "After I'm dead I'd rather have people ask why I have no monument than why I have one." - Cato the Elder (234-149 BC) "The mind, if it exists, is nothing but an unfortunate after effect of the brain process." -Kripke "One should die proudly when it is no longer possible to live proudly." -Friedich Nietzche Posts: 333 | Registered: Saturday, May 20 2006 07:00 |
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written Friday, April 6 2007 15:12
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So there are two Shaper continents, and Sucia Island is off of the second, less settled of the two Shaper continents. But the secret of G1 is that Shapers originated from people from Sucia. So why is the Shaper power base on the other continent? Shouldn't the area closer to the Shaper's orgins be the ones first settled? -------------------- "After I'm dead I'd rather have people ask why I have no monument than why I have one." - Cato the Elder (234-149 BC) "The mind, if it exists, is nothing but an unfortunate after effect of the brain process." -Kripke "One should die proudly when it is no longer possible to live proudly." -Friedich Nietzche Posts: 333 | Registered: Saturday, May 20 2006 07:00 |
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written Friday, April 6 2007 13:05
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I would be dissapointed if I had to do the whole island hopping thing again like in G3. I found it annoying when I wanted to go back to places. Or if it was on islands at least let us travel back and forth without the whole go to the docks thingy. -------------------- "After I'm dead I'd rather have people ask why I have no monument than why I have one." - Cato the Elder (234-149 BC) "The mind, if it exists, is nothing but an unfortunate after effect of the brain process." -Kripke "One should die proudly when it is no longer possible to live proudly." -Friedich Nietzche Posts: 333 | Registered: Saturday, May 20 2006 07:00 |
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written Friday, April 6 2007 12:59
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All the rebellion is doing is justifying the conservative hardliners among the Shapers. When the Shapers win the Rebellion causes them to take a firmer hand and more controll. Evolution of a society cannot always be forced. I believe that the Shapers were taking small steady steps as more among them felt a need for gradual change, but the Rebellion knocked them all back so the hardliners could say, "Hey look, we are totally justified!" -------------------- "After I'm dead I'd rather have people ask why I have no monument than why I have one." - Cato the Elder (234-149 BC) "The mind, if it exists, is nothing but an unfortunate after effect of the brain process." -Kripke "One should die proudly when it is no longer possible to live proudly." -Friedich Nietzche Posts: 333 | Registered: Saturday, May 20 2006 07:00 |
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written Friday, April 6 2007 12:52
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I think its some sort of German victory poster... -------------------- "After I'm dead I'd rather have people ask why I have no monument than why I have one." - Cato the Elder (234-149 BC) "The mind, if it exists, is nothing but an unfortunate after effect of the brain process." -Kripke "One should die proudly when it is no longer possible to live proudly." -Friedich Nietzche Posts: 333 | Registered: Saturday, May 20 2006 07:00 |
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written Thursday, April 5 2007 19:07
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Nazis again, Waylander? I am truly getting tired of your Nazi analogy. I don't agree with it but I need not argue since we have been over this so many times. But I will say a couple things just because I don't like to stay silent while others have all the fun. 1) Shapers really only do anything to you if you openly or actively oppose them. 2) Have you ever seen a poor person in a Shaper controlled city? I get the feeling that most people are prosperous under the Shapers. 3) Note that some upcoming Shapers like Alwan are extremely loyal, but talk about the need for reform in peace. It is because of the war that such reformers are shouted down by the conservatives. 4) If you truly think that your Nazi analogy is true for the Shapers, you should most readily accept ET's terrorist analogy with the Drakons/Rebels, which is much more fitting. -------------------- "After I'm dead I'd rather have people ask why I have no monument than why I have one." - Cato the Elder (234-149 BC) "The mind, if it exists, is nothing but an unfortunate after effect of the brain process." -Kripke "One should die proudly when it is no longer possible to live proudly." -Friedich Nietzche Posts: 333 | Registered: Saturday, May 20 2006 07:00 |
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written Thursday, April 5 2007 11:26
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If the Drakons are handicapped only by lack of tools their size, then why don't/didn't they make some their size? -------------------- "After I'm dead I'd rather have people ask why I have no monument than why I have one." - Cato the Elder (234-149 BC) "The mind, if it exists, is nothing but an unfortunate after effect of the brain process." -Kripke "One should die proudly when it is no longer possible to live proudly." -Friedich Nietzche Posts: 333 | Registered: Saturday, May 20 2006 07:00 |
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written Tuesday, April 3 2007 11:36
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I thought that Jeff pretty much said that G5 is the end. -------------------- "After I'm dead I'd rather have people ask why I have no monument than why I have one." - Cato the Elder (234-149 BC) "The mind, if it exists, is nothing but an unfortunate after effect of the brain process." -Kripke "One should die proudly when it is no longer possible to live proudly." -Friedich Nietzche Posts: 333 | Registered: Saturday, May 20 2006 07:00 |
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written Tuesday, April 3 2007 11:35
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Stillness, while the quote is still not meaningless that your character has still not seen the Titan or Monarch's upper level creations severely weakens the impact and degree of meaning . -------------------- "After I'm dead I'd rather have people ask why I have no monument than why I have one." - Cato the Elder (234-149 BC) "The mind, if it exists, is nothing but an unfortunate after effect of the brain process." -Kripke "One should die proudly when it is no longer possible to live proudly." -Friedich Nietzche Posts: 333 | Registered: Saturday, May 20 2006 07:00 |
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written Sunday, April 1 2007 14:55
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Both sides of this arguement are making assumptions. Both sides feel that their own assumptions are more valid or implied through the story line, but they are still assumptions. I know that I draw some conclusions that I feel are implied in the story that the other side finds absurd, but those people should realize that they do the same and look equally absurd to us. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. -------------------- "After I'm dead I'd rather have people ask why I have no monument than why I have one." - Cato the Elder (234-149 BC) "The mind, if it exists, is nothing but an unfortunate after effect of the brain process." -Kripke "One should die proudly when it is no longer possible to live proudly." -Friedich Nietzche Posts: 333 | Registered: Saturday, May 20 2006 07:00 |
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written Friday, March 30 2007 21:22
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quote:Stillness, I'm guessing you're talking about ET on this thing, but I don't get your analogy... Waylander I am happy that you took me off ignore though I doubt there is too much more to say. Ignoring your enemy's/enemies' arguments even if you strongly disagree with them is not the path to take. **Warning political statement all people of strong conservative sympathies close the window.** It is like the US refusing to even talk with Iran or North Korea. Oh yeah, and just to reinstate why the US was never really that threatened by Japan itself is that the US only devoted 10% of its resources to the war in the Pacific. The other 90% was going to the war in Europe/Africa. By the time the US dropped the atomic bombs on Japan Australia was not under much threat. Thank you AP Euro. -------------------- "After I'm dead I'd rather have people ask why I have no monument than why I have one." - Cato the Elder (234-149 BC) "The mind, if it exists, is nothing but an unfortunate after effect of the brain process." -Kripke "One should die proudly when it is no longer possible to live proudly." -Friedich Nietzche Posts: 333 | Registered: Saturday, May 20 2006 07:00 |
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written Friday, March 30 2007 09:38
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quote:1. No I do not condone the firebombing and the nuking of the Japanese mainland. 2. America was never truly under real threat of a great invasion. The Japanese landed on American territory once (Alaska) in a very unsuccessful campaign (bottom line, every single Japanese soldier died). At worst USA would have lost some terretories in the Pacific in the very unlikely scenerio where the US lost . 3. It was not just a two option question of what to do. It wasn't just either we nuke them or invade them. There were other options such as a demonstration on an isolated area or low population density area. By killing so many civilians the US made itself into something that they had considered barbaric earlier. There is a certain point where it is to have some more honerable deaths than having a bloodsoaked path of unhonerable life. You didn't only hurt those in the area, you hurt their families and friends. There were [b] Americans [/b] that had families completely wiped out in those atomic attacks. Hiroshima contained what remained of my family members in Japan, but now only ashes are rest there. 4. See the first part of 3. I would appreciate it if someone would quote this for me so Waylander may see it since he is ignoring my posts. I really don't see the point of him staying in this discussion if he isn't even going to see any rebuttles. He only surrounds himself with yesmen so he can feel better about himself. P.S. I think that the only historical events that have managed to lodge themeselves into Waylander's head are references to Nazis and Isreal. Polarization is his game since Waylander is his name. [ Friday, March 30, 2007 09:41: Message edited by: Retlaw May ] -------------------- "After I'm dead I'd rather have people ask why I have no monument than why I have one." - Cato the Elder (234-149 BC) "The mind, if it exists, is nothing but an unfortunate after effect of the brain process." -Kripke "One should die proudly when it is no longer possible to live proudly." -Friedich Nietzche Posts: 333 | Registered: Saturday, May 20 2006 07:00 |
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written Tuesday, March 27 2007 19:01
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Until you get mass madness. -------------------- "After I'm dead I'd rather have people ask why I have no monument than why I have one." - Cato the Elder (234-149 BC) "The mind, if it exists, is nothing but an unfortunate after effect of the brain process." -Kripke "One should die proudly when it is no longer possible to live proudly." -Friedich Nietzche Posts: 333 | Registered: Saturday, May 20 2006 07:00 |
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written Tuesday, March 27 2007 10:14
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From what I hear, I doubt Waylander would consider anyone who votes for humans as superior as "reasonable". But what is reason to the unreasonable? And (though it is probably repetitive to say this) what is reasonable to Waylander? -------------------- "After I'm dead I'd rather have people ask why I have no monument than why I have one." - Cato the Elder (234-149 BC) "The mind, if it exists, is nothing but an unfortunate after effect of the brain process." -Kripke "One should die proudly when it is no longer possible to live proudly." -Friedich Nietzche Posts: 333 | Registered: Saturday, May 20 2006 07:00 |