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It won't download! in Blades of Avernum Editor
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Profile #4
That's okay. It's just some things cross the line and our members need to feel safe so we cannot allow comments like that. Just don't do it again.

Cheers,

*i

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Posts: 3726 | Registered: Tuesday, September 18 2001 07:00
It won't download! in Blades of Avernum
The Establishment
Member # 6
Profile #4
That's okay. It's just some things cross the line and our members need to feel safe so we cannot allow comments like that. Just don't do it again.

Cheers,

*i

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Posts: 3726 | Registered: Tuesday, September 18 2001 07:00
run_dialog in Blades of Avernum Editor
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Member # 6
Profile #1
No, it shouldn't because of compatibility issues. Every scenario from this point on would have to be rewritten which would be VERY annoying versus the minor annoyance associated with a slightly awkward notation.

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Posts: 3726 | Registered: Tuesday, September 18 2001 07:00
run_dialog in Blades of Avernum
The Establishment
Member # 6
Profile #1
No, it shouldn't because of compatibility issues. Every scenario from this point on would have to be rewritten which would be VERY annoying versus the minor annoyance associated with a slightly awkward notation.

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Posts: 3726 | Registered: Tuesday, September 18 2001 07:00
It won't download! in Blades of Avernum Editor
The Establishment
Member # 6
Profile #2
Insulting people will not get any help, especially in such threats. Make another impulsive remark such as this and do not expect to be party to these boards much longer.

The reason people probably have not responded is that they do not know your situation. Part of it is that you were vague in your initial request. I suggest you e-mail Spiderweb Software with this concern as they are the only ones who really understand, not us mere board members.

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Posts: 3726 | Registered: Tuesday, September 18 2001 07:00
It won't download! in Blades of Avernum
The Establishment
Member # 6
Profile #2
Insulting people will not get any help, especially in such threats. Make another impulsive remark such as this and do not expect to be party to these boards much longer.

The reason people probably have not responded is that they do not know your situation. Part of it is that you were vague in your initial request. I suggest you e-mail Spiderweb Software with this concern as they are the only ones who really understand, not us mere board members.

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Posts: 3726 | Registered: Tuesday, September 18 2001 07:00
Scenario suggestions in Blades of Avernum Editor
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Member # 6
Profile #18
Unfortunately Blades is really geared toward individual works. Things done by one user need to be somehow implemented in a master file which is a real pain to coordinate.

The problem is not really in the people here, as a long standing community member who has participated in these failed projects I can atest to that. People on these have always been sincere, but the issues of coordination with personal lives and all have really doomed this to failure.

Sure, people could overcome this, but there is no motivation. The hassle is just too great to justify the extra effort. The problem is really a systemic one that makes individual works actually easier than any non-trivial group attempt.

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Posts: 3726 | Registered: Tuesday, September 18 2001 07:00
Scenario suggestions in Blades of Avernum
The Establishment
Member # 6
Profile #18
Unfortunately Blades is really geared toward individual works. Things done by one user need to be somehow implemented in a master file which is a real pain to coordinate.

The problem is not really in the people here, as a long standing community member who has participated in these failed projects I can atest to that. People on these have always been sincere, but the issues of coordination with personal lives and all have really doomed this to failure.

Sure, people could overcome this, but there is no motivation. The hassle is just too great to justify the extra effort. The problem is really a systemic one that makes individual works actually easier than any non-trivial group attempt.

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Posts: 3726 | Registered: Tuesday, September 18 2001 07:00
Post yer monster scripts here in Blades of Avernum Editor
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Member # 6
Profile #10
All right, I've uploaded the magekiller script. What it does is it finds the PC with the highest mage or priest skill in the party and sets that PC as its target. It's not perfect as the AI in BoA is quite crude, but there is a definite favoring of going after mages/priests.

Let me know if my commenting in the code is sufficient.
http://stareye08.tripod.com/scripts/magekiller.txt

Yes, there are more general ways of doing this with other skills and I may code something to that effect. However, to utilize the char_with_highest() skill script you need to have it work on the party. I figured this was the simplist way to implement this.

I can envision a more advanced code (call it advkiller.txt) that could work as follows:

1) Select a target at random
2) Check visibility, status, and whether or not it is hostile to the creature.
3) Check the difference between strength and mage + priest skills.
4) Record the character number and find the difference.
5) Go on to the next creature and run the same check. If the difference exceeds that of the previous, rewrite this over the old character and record the difference. If not, move on to the next character.
6) Continue this cycle until some truncation ends the loop and picks a target. You could conceivably check every monster in the town and once you repeat, stop.
7) Set the target to the character with the highest difference of skill.

You could generalize this further using memory cells with that would record the skills you want to compare. The difference would be calculated as follows:

diff = (skill1 + skill2) - (skill3 + skill4)

You should probably set some null number such as -1. Any cell with a -1 in it will be ignored.

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Posts: 3726 | Registered: Tuesday, September 18 2001 07:00
Post yer monster scripts here in Blades of Avernum
The Establishment
Member # 6
Profile #10
All right, I've uploaded the magekiller script. What it does is it finds the PC with the highest mage or priest skill in the party and sets that PC as its target. It's not perfect as the AI in BoA is quite crude, but there is a definite favoring of going after mages/priests.

Let me know if my commenting in the code is sufficient.
http://stareye08.tripod.com/scripts/magekiller.txt

Yes, there are more general ways of doing this with other skills and I may code something to that effect. However, to utilize the char_with_highest() skill script you need to have it work on the party. I figured this was the simplist way to implement this.

I can envision a more advanced code (call it advkiller.txt) that could work as follows:

1) Select a target at random
2) Check visibility, status, and whether or not it is hostile to the creature.
3) Check the difference between strength and mage + priest skills.
4) Record the character number and find the difference.
5) Go on to the next creature and run the same check. If the difference exceeds that of the previous, rewrite this over the old character and record the difference. If not, move on to the next character.
6) Continue this cycle until some truncation ends the loop and picks a target. You could conceivably check every monster in the town and once you repeat, stop.
7) Set the target to the character with the highest difference of skill.

You could generalize this further using memory cells with that would record the skills you want to compare. The difference would be calculated as follows:

diff = (skill1 + skill2) - (skill3 + skill4)

You should probably set some null number such as -1. Any cell with a -1 in it will be ignored.

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Your flower power is no match for my glower power!
Posts: 3726 | Registered: Tuesday, September 18 2001 07:00
Post yer monster scripts here in Blades of Avernum Editor
The Establishment
Member # 6
Profile #6
Actually you can indeed move monsters around and simulate teleportation. Look at the cutscene calls.

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Posts: 3726 | Registered: Tuesday, September 18 2001 07:00
Post yer monster scripts here in Blades of Avernum
The Establishment
Member # 6
Profile #6
Actually you can indeed move monsters around and simulate teleportation. Look at the cutscene calls.

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Posts: 3726 | Registered: Tuesday, September 18 2001 07:00
TWO HINTS ABOUT THE GAME? in Blades of Avernum
The Establishment
Member # 6
Profile #3
Shouting and otherwise bad netiquette, let alone inane lack of common politeness and decency, will not be tolerated on this forum.

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Posts: 3726 | Registered: Tuesday, September 18 2001 07:00
Hawks Manse in Blades of Avernum
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Member # 6
Profile #10
All right, this topic now serves no purpose.

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Posts: 3726 | Registered: Tuesday, September 18 2001 07:00
life on mars in General
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Member # 6
Profile #9
It depends on the definition of life. Water seems to be a lot more prevalent than we first thought on Mars from analyzing activation analysis data. If you have water, carbon, and nitrogen (all of which are common on Mars) coupled with millions of years, simple life is almost inevitable.

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Posts: 3726 | Registered: Tuesday, September 18 2001 07:00
Define Differences Between BoE and BoA in Blades of Avernum
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Member # 6
Profile #1
Everything you need to know will be revealed at the release of the editor.

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Posts: 3726 | Registered: Tuesday, September 18 2001 07:00
home, sweet home: a little joke in Blades of Avernum
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Member # 6
Profile #2
Since dropped items are always preserved, this becomes unnecessary.

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Posts: 3726 | Registered: Tuesday, September 18 2001 07:00
On BoA... in Blades of Avernum
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Member # 6
Profile #15
Gallows only has 36 outdoor sections actually. Don't even try porting it, so much is different that you would have to devout at least half a year to it. It took me nine months to make.

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Posts: 3726 | Registered: Tuesday, September 18 2001 07:00
background-noises in Blades of Avernum
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Member # 6
Profile #9
I believe you can toggle them off and on.

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Posts: 3726 | Registered: Tuesday, September 18 2001 07:00
idea for an annoying obstacle ... in Blades of Avernum
The Establishment
Member # 6
Profile #35
This will be very difficult, but I'm not going to say impossible because you may be able to devise something that takes advantage of some little thing.

However, just because something can be done does not necessarily mean it should. Never put anything in that really serves nothing other than to annoy the player. If you use something, make sure it actually improves the scenario in an enjoyable way.

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Your flower power is no match for my glower power!
Posts: 3726 | Registered: Tuesday, September 18 2001 07:00
background-noises in Blades of Avernum
The Establishment
Member # 6
Profile #7
Considering all of the scripting is done in text files, this is even less possible than in BoE.

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Posts: 3726 | Registered: Tuesday, September 18 2001 07:00
Multiplayer. in Blades of Avernum
The Establishment
Member # 6
Profile #12
All right, this topic has served its purpose.

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Posts: 3726 | Registered: Tuesday, September 18 2001 07:00
BoA graphic - PC sitting in chair ! in Blades of Avernum
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Member # 6
Profile #7
Jeff did say he may make the editor code open source.

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Posts: 3726 | Registered: Tuesday, September 18 2001 07:00
Multiplayer. in Blades of Avernum
The Establishment
Member # 6
Profile #5
And not going to happen, period.

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Posts: 3726 | Registered: Tuesday, September 18 2001 07:00
Developer's Update in Blades of Avernum
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Member # 6
Profile #34
The scripts are all separate files. Expect between 1-4 per town depending on how elaborate the designer decides to make each one. Look at Geneforge for an example.

Windows are similar to BoE, but there are fewer of them since most of the dialog and editing is done in scripts. Selection can be a bit awkward, but once you get used to it, it's not too difficult.

Escher Staircases, not really, unless you use scripts to edit height on certain places in the staircase.

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Posts: 3726 | Registered: Tuesday, September 18 2001 07:00

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